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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2008, 12:43:16 PM »
Screencaps look different because they are taken from video which has lower contrast than film. They are then over sharpened giving a false impression of how the athlete really looked.
Most photographers at shows don't use flash.
Scanning any photograph results in an unsharp image. Here's the same shot, over sharpened.





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Great post ! a graphic artist also said the screencaps have been unsharped and he presented this example

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #51 on: June 16, 2008, 12:45:25 PM »
I was there and there's no denying Ronnie looked incredible. But a lot of screen caps from that show - in particular the most muscular - have been over sharpened and that gives a false impression of how Ronnie looked.
Best I ever saw Ronnie was the night before the 2002 Mr Olympia. Huge and shredded.

Great post Kevin thanks for clearing that up ! 

Kevin what happened to Ronnie before the show? thats the contest he came in depleted and almost lost to Levrone

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #52 on: June 16, 2008, 12:46:26 PM »
  I would really shut up if I were Hulkster after this. He just got corrected and dismissed about the validity of the 1999 Olympia pics of Ronnie he likes to post so much by a professional bodybuilding photographer. You can't get an ownage better than this. This also means that Hulkster has lost that truce thread, since his entire argument revolves around those pics and they have been discredited. ;) 8)

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2008, 12:55:26 PM »
You're comparing a VHS pic, Youtube pic and a DVD pic. I have both the VHS and DVD pics which is legit. As for the Youtube pic, why would anyone use a blurry , washed out pic to prove a point? LOL. What ever bizzy did to those few pics (that were removed) shouldn't make a difference because ever since forcedreps posted the VHS & DVD screencaps almost 2 years ago, the yates fan club cried "fake" pics like little bytches from day one. As for bizzy's few pics that were removed, I never used them anyway.

Ad populum? Opinions is all that we have in this. So using your logic then this whole sport wouldn't be a sport if there weren't any "numbers" involved (judging, scorecards, etc.). There goes your weak logic out the window again.

I correct people who post bs when they don't know what the hell they are talking about. You're acting like I'm the only one on getbig that does this, LOL. That's pretty much what almost everyone on getbig does, including yourself.

again the whole contention was there are so many different versions of the same contest which were the ' real ' ones a question you guys could never answer and when people start tampering with pictures it reeks of desperation period and thanks to Kevin for putting the final nail in the coffin for you guys  ;)

and the whole argument ad populum is weak logic when you people claim a popular opinion is a right one its flat out wrong all it proves is its popular and thats all and the sport ironically is NOT judged by popular opinion it has a set criteria and the minority of people ( 13 judges ) choose who has the superior physique

perfect example the popular opinion is that Ronnie lost in 2001 did he? no does that make the masses right? no!  popular opinion doesn't mean right opinion .

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #54 on: June 16, 2008, 01:40:10 PM »
Cormier was better than Flex that day .... 
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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #55 on: June 16, 2008, 01:47:20 PM »

Kevin what happened to Ronnie before the show? thats the contest he came in depleted and almost lost to Levrone


I have no idea but he looked amazing. It's the one time I thought Ronnie could have beaten Dorian. But that's both at their best, not how they looked on stage. One day I'll get round to scanning the shots I have of Dorian at what I consider his all time best and I've promised Kris Gethin at BB.com he can publish them on there.

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2008, 01:50:09 PM »
Cormier was better than Flex that day .... 

I agree with that !

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #57 on: June 16, 2008, 01:54:49 PM »
I have no idea but he looked amazing. It's the one time I thought Ronnie could have beaten Dorian. But that's both at their best, not how they looked on stage. One day I'll get round to scanning the shots I have of Dorian at what I consider his all time best and I've promised Kris Gethin at BB.com he can publish them on there.

Kevin I'm begging you to scan these pics lol There are many great shots of Ronnie and fewer of Yates , I'd love to see ' new ' pics of Yates at his prime .

and how about some shots of Ronnie before the 02 Olympia? are any of them floating around?

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #58 on: June 16, 2008, 02:01:10 PM »
Kevin I'm begging you to scan these pics lol There are many great shots of Ronnie and fewer of Yates , I'd love to see ' new ' pics of Yates at his prime .

and how about some shots of Ronnie before the 02 Olympia? are any of them floating around?

I'll do it soon. Have to find them first then dust off the old scanner and try to remember how it works!

All the shots from the 2002 room shoot with several athletes and Joe Weider are gathering dust in the Weider archives.

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #59 on: June 16, 2008, 02:03:08 PM »
Great post ! a graphic artist also said the screencaps have been unsharped and he presented this example

Here's another example but with the left shot sharpened even more. Some people would consider it to use as an eample to prove how hard and grainy Dorian looked on the day. Others would see it as very bad Photoshop technique.  ;D

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #60 on: June 16, 2008, 02:05:39 PM »
Here's another example but with the left shot sharpened even more. Some people would consider it to use as an eample to prove how hard and grainy Dorian looked on the day. Others would see it as very bad Photoshop technique.  ;D

Exactly ! these guys keep posting these pics as proof positive of how great Ronnie was , and look no one was arguing he wasn't great just not as hard or as dry as he was in 98 or 2001 and I personally think he looks better fuller but these guys have tampered with the screencaps thats proven hopefully they will learn their lesson .

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #61 on: June 16, 2008, 02:27:06 PM »
Man, this is just an owning of epic proportions. LOL. Gotta love how Hulkster thinks he knows more than Kevin Horton  ::)

P.S. Kevin, please scan those pictures of Dorian!
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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #62 on: June 16, 2008, 02:35:08 PM »
Man, this is just an owning of epic proportions. LOL. Gotta love how Hulkster thinks he knows more than Kevin Horton  ::)

P.S. Kevin, please scan those pictures of Dorian!

Yet another example of Hulkster getting corrected lol how much does he know about competitive bodybuilding again? ..................nothin g as usual

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #63 on: June 16, 2008, 02:37:10 PM »
Man, this is just an owning of epic proportions. LOL. Gotta love how Hulkster thinks he knows more than Kevin Horton  ::)

P.S. Kevin, please scan those pictures of Dorian!

I don't think that's Hulksters opinion but if it is that's fine, he's just wrong :-)

I just dug out the scanner only to find it needs a SCSI card - anyone remember those?

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #64 on: June 16, 2008, 02:40:43 PM »
I don't think that's Hulksters opinion but if it is that's fine, he's just wrong :-)

I just dug out the scanner only to find it needs a SCSI card - anyone remember those?

Oh that sucks lol I never heard of an scsi card

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #65 on: June 16, 2008, 02:45:23 PM »
LOL so, who "oversharpened" my VHS 99 Olympia tape? ::)

or the videos posted from the contest online? ::)

ps hey ND: if what they are claiming is true, then all the dorian screencaps are 'oversharpened' too:

and guess what?

he STILL has no detail and looks like garbage compared to Ronnie 99! LOL

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #66 on: June 16, 2008, 02:47:59 PM »
who ever 'oversharpened' dorian's screencaps should have added a few inches of arm size while they were at it... :-\ ::)
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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #67 on: June 16, 2008, 02:50:32 PM »
Exactly ! these guys keep posting these pics as proof positive of how great Ronnie was , and look no one was arguing he wasn't great just not as hard or as dry as he was in 98 or 2001 and I personally think he looks better fuller but these guys have tampered with the screencaps thats proven hopefully they will learn their lesson .

who has tampered with the 99 screencaps?

ForcedReps?
Bizzy?
Iceman?

all have posted excellent screencaps and just because they ALL crush dorian, you have been hoping and praying that they were 'faked' from day 1. Along with IceCold..

I guess now you have someone who will join your cause.. ::)
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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #68 on: June 16, 2008, 02:53:50 PM »
kmhPhoto:

what exactly are you claiming?

that all these screencaps from 99 (and most other contests including the 93 olympia) are 'tampered with' or photoshopped?

or,

are you simply saying that how bodybuilders appear on film is different than how they appear in person up close?


these are two completely different things and as we can see, ND cannot tell the difference as he is orgasming over the idea that Ronnie may not have looked as good in 99 as he does in all the screencaps..
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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #69 on: June 16, 2008, 02:55:24 PM »
who ever 'oversharpened' dorian's screencaps should have added a few inches of arm size while they were at it... :-\ ::)

His arms don't need the size ass clown  ;)

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #70 on: June 16, 2008, 02:57:03 PM »
ps What ND has overlooked:

Ronnie appears better than dorian based on screencaps and videos - there are dorian screencaps and videos too.

even if the screencaps/videos make BOTH of them look a bit better, Ronnie is still going to look better than dorian in person too..


but ND is too busy freaking out to stop and realize this LOL

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #71 on: June 16, 2008, 02:57:45 PM »
His arms don't need the size ass clown  ;)

they do if he is standing beside a 99 Ronnie Coleman.

in your shot he is standing beside..no one..
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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #72 on: June 16, 2008, 03:00:07 PM »
hey ND, I am just giving you some time to figure out an excuse for when the 1999 Muscletime Ronnie pics get posted that blow away the 93 dorian muscletime pics.

because you are going to need some excuse, so starting figuring one out!

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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #73 on: June 16, 2008, 03:00:23 PM »
ps What ND has overlooked:

Ronnie appears better than dorian based on screencaps and videos - there are dorian screencaps and videos too.

even if the screencaps/videos make BOTH of them look a bit better, Ronnie is still going to look better than dorian in person too..


but ND is too busy freaking out to stop and realize this LOL



Given the sum of all visual evidence, Dorian looks superior. You just choose to post biased comparisons. ND is unbiased and fair, especially since he scanned all the pictures to begin with  ::)
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Re: 1999 Olympia, DVD screencaps look nothing like real life....
« Reply #74 on: June 16, 2008, 03:00:29 PM »
they do if he is standing beside a 99 Ronnie Coleman.

in your shot he is standing beside..no one..

lol at your multiple post meltdown


I was there and there's no denying Ronnie looked incredible. But a lot of screen caps from that show - in particular the most muscular - have been over sharpened and that gives a false impression of how Ronnie looked.
Best I ever saw Ronnie was the night before the 2002 Mr Olympia. Huge and shredded.


Did you glance over this post? moron the 99 Olympia screencaps you have been posting as ' proof ' are worked period , this is the second time Bizzy has been outted for fucking with pictures and Kevin confirmed what the graphic artist said about using the unsharp lol

Hulkster & Bizzy = pwned  ;)