For those who fear for the overtraining...

[Croatch]

jesus christ- i was talking to 'go4it' not you as evidence by who i was quoting.

you can always depend on him to post his pics in a thread of no relevance to him.

try reading WHO was being quoted and referred to before losing your grip next time.

You reek of insecurities bro.  Goforit has a good physique.  He posted a shot cause he was asked..haha, you're sad.   Probably no pic up here, I'd bet.
First step of being the biggest guy on getbig...don't post a picture. haha, tools.

[candidizzle]

croatch dont call anyone else insecure dude... 

[Croatch]

croatch dont call anyone else insecure dude... 

More secure than some clown who doesn't post a shot.
Move on son.

[candidizzle]

More secure than some clown who doesn't post a shot.
Move on son.

why would no one post a picture ?

currently we have two guys on this site who have been yelling at each other for thousands of pages..one calling dorian yates a pile of shit, and the other caling ronnie coleman a sack of shit.

 


like any physique he could bring to the table would escape flame-age....  ? no, its a smart thing to not post a pic


and from his others posts its apparent hes pretty damn knowledgeable

[Croatch]

why would no one post a picture ?

currently we have two guys on this site who have been yelling at each other for thousands of pages..one calling dorian yates a pile of shit, and the other caling ronnie coleman a sack of shit.

 


like any physique he could bring to the table would escape flame-age....  ? no, its a smart thing to not post a pic


and from his others posts its apparent hes pretty damn knowledgeable

Everyone gets flamed.  If you take it seriously, there's the problem.  If someone questioned my physique, I'd just post a shot and not really think too much about it.  When someone is asked, but never does, it's usually a sign they look like garbage.  Take a look at previous shots posted, you'll see this is pretty true.
Also, to bash someone's physique, then not even post your own shot...is just pathetic.  If you don't go around bashing people, it's another thing.

[Van_Bilderass]

Still hold bit more water,but Paco says i dont have to worry about it since i train very hard and long.

Holding water? What do you mean? You don't do any drugs, why would you hold water? Something wrong with your kidneys?

[jr]

Kyomu is at the age where it is very hard to make significant muscle gains. It's all downhill from here.

[Warren]

Kyomu is at the age where it is very hard to make significant muscle gains. It's all downhill from here.

hahahahaa, i love how you clowns make it sound as if the second you go from age 29 to 30 your testosterone levels drop by 75 percent and you lose any ability to put on muscle.

[jr]

hahahahaa, i love how you clowns make it sound as if the second you go from age 29 to 30 your testosterone levels drop by 75 percent and you lose any ability to put on muscle.

You sound like Squadfather.

Isn't Kyomu around 40?

Why do you think most athletes and sports people competing in a sport that requires stamina, strength, power, endurance etc retire in their thirties?

[Warren]

You sound like Squadfather.

Isn't Kyomu around 40?

Why do you think most athletes and sports people competing in a sport that requires stamina, strength, power, endurance etc retire in their thirties?

i'm not Squad but then why is almost everyone in the top 10 at the Olympia except for maybe Heath and Wolf well into their thirties and a couple in their 40's?

[jr]

i'm not Squad but then why is almost everyone in the top 10 at the Olympia except for maybe Heath and Wolf well into their thirties and a couple in their 40's?

They take drugs to compensate and allows them to be competetive for longer. If they were natural it would get progressively harder to make improvements as they age. Even so you can still see the deterioration of drug users as they come up on age 40 and beyond.

[The ChemistV2]

I've never understood the logic of a competitive Natural bodybuilder being trained and given dietary advice by a Pro bodybuilder who is obviously on mega-doses of juice. It's a totally different situation for them in terms of protein utilization, recuperation, etc. If I was Kyomu, I'd would find the best natural bodybuilder around (make sure he's not lying), and ask his advice on supplements, diet and training. It's easy for a guy on GH, 1000's of mg a week of juice to say there's no such thing as overtraining. They don't have to worry about excessive cortisol production and lowered testosterone levels. Kyomu also likes to compete against drug users which also sets him up for disappointment. If it were me, I would try to be the best natural out there first, before I would go up against the juicers.

[LATS]

 so, you are saying that paco trains every few hours?.. please explain how paco actually trains.. i am curious as to what he means..

[no one]

You reek of insecurities bro.  Goforit has a good physique.  He posted a shot cause he was asked..haha, you're sad.   Probably no pic up here, I'd bet.
First step of being the biggest guy on getbig...don't post a picture. haha, tools.

lol.

this is sweet.

the only guy on the board who needs to start a thread every other week about how guys who use all suck and how he is the greatest natural to ever walk the planet calling me insecure. 

keep posting your meltdown youtube vids, sparky, tapemeasuring your MASSIVE 17 inch arms.

listen asspipe- one day you'll be secure enough in your balding scrawny body that won't need to put others down to feel good about yourself, unlike me who's puts others down simply because i can.

[WillGrant]

You looked better in the middle pic mate.
The third pic you look soft and smooth , so fat or water gain?

[Mars]

[Croatch]

lol.

this is sweet.

the only guy on the board who needs to start a thread every other week about how guys who use all suck and how he is the greatest natural to ever walk the planet calling me insecure. 

keep posting your meltdown youtube vids, sparky, tapemeasuring your MASSIVE 17 inch arms.

listen asspipe- one day you'll be secure enough in your balding scrawny body that won't need to put others down to feel good about yourself, unlike me who's puts others down simply because i can.

Sure thing no pic guy.  Whatever you say.

[Mars]

[kyomu]

jesus christ- i was talking to 'go4it' not you as evidence by who i was quoting.

you can always depend on him to post his pics in a thread of no relevance to him.

try reading WHO was being quoted and referred to before losing your grip next time.

Sorry. Its my mistake.

[kyomu]

You know what you're speaking of.  If you're natural or train without drugs, the last thing you want, it to train 3 hours a day...it's utterly pointless.  Your test levels start to fall off, after 45 minutes of training.
If you wanted to gain more size, which you don't, you'd just change your diet, not train more.  This thought process is very poor.
I'm sure Paco knows a lot, but in short, the guy is a heavy drug abuser with a huge mid section.  What has this guy ever achieved on his own?  I'd guess, not much...as with almost every pro bb out there.  They all start juicing @17 and don't stop.  That their thing, it's irrelevant to me, but how it is.

If the things happen like you are saying, i wouldnt have built this thread.
This is strange and i am growing. Thats why i made this thread.

[Method101]

you are just too nice... hahaha

todo bien papa, pura joda es la vida

shut the fuck up you look like dogshit.

Kyomu is fucking way above your level.

[kyomu]

Holding water? What do you mean? You don't do any drugs, why would you hold water? Something wrong with your kidneys?

If you eat tons of protein with salt(Soy source..etc) or whatever. You will retain water. But not that much like you imagine.

[Samourai Pizzacat]

Realistically it's impossible to have visual gains from intensified training after only 2 weeks. Non-assisted protein synthesis is just too slow. What you might be seeing is the result of agitated muscle tissue; training 3 hours a day, 7 days a week mould cause swelling and irritation.

[kyomu]

Realistically it's impossible to have visual gains from intensified training after only 2 weeks. Non-assisted protein synthesis is just too slow. What you might be seeing is the result of agitated muscle tissue; training 3 hours a day, 7 days a week mould cause swelling and irritation.

I train 5 days a week.

If its only swelling, i wouldnt feel myself that much energetic and powerful now.
Thats the interesting part. Thats why i made this thread.

But in my experience, the gain always happen in really short time. Not gradualy.

[Samourai Pizzacat]

is it light training or all out -past faillure stuff?

If it's the first I could understand you feeling more energetic, raising your body's activation level. If you're going to failure for 3 hours each day there's nothing I can think
of that can explain it.

in the after picture you look less sharp than in the before pictures: hormonal changes, diet could have you holding more water. I wouldn't cry victory yet, see how it is in a months time.