serious question for Alex23

[Bast000]

i am a programmer, how do i make a couple hundred g's a year like you do?

[Mars]

Alex is succesfull businessman, bodybuilding athlete/model, familyman and stand up comedian in one.

[io856]

 

[Alex23]

Move to the Valley or at least in Cal. Get into a product based company that offer stock options. Contrary to popular belief most still do in one form or another. If they like you, they will pay for relocation. I've relocated dozens of engineers from around the world. Options are crucial, you can only make so much as a "plain" enigneer. You can supplement a solid 30-50k  on top of your base with options if the company does "ok".

Make your resume "trendy". SaaS (software as a service) is pretty hot right now. Put related buzzwords (Soap/WSDL, XML, Swing, Adobe Flex, Ruby...)   just to get noticed and then learned about it prior to the interview.

Avoid working in "IT departments" of company XYZ, doing "internal development"; this will kill your career and reduce your marketability. Last thing you know, it's been 5 years working for "Nabisco" doing internal ERP / VB .NET shit and nobody will hire you for nothing else. 

After you've settled for a couple of years and are financially semi-independent, join a startup and give everything you've got for 1-3years and wait to go IPO or get aquired. By that time, you'll be 30-32yo and will be able to afford spending countless hours on getbig and have plenty of money in the bank.

[Stark]

Move to the Valley or at least in Cal. Get into a product based company that offer stock options. Contrary to popular belief most still do in one form or another. If they like you, they will pay for relocation. I've relocated dozens of engineers from around the world. Options are crucial, you can only make so much as a "plain" enigneer. You can supplement a solid 30-50k  on top of your base with options if the company does "ok".

Make your resume "trendy". SaaS (software as a service) is pretty hot right now. Put related buzzwords (Soap/WSDL, XML, Swing, Adobe Flex, Ruby...)   just to get noticed and then learned about it prior to the interview.

Avoid working in "IT departments" of company XYZ, doing "internal development"; this will kill your career and reduce your marketability. Last thing you know, it's been 5 years working for "Nabisco" doing internal ERP / VB .NET shit and nobody will hire you for nothing else. 

After you've settled for a couple of years and are financially semi-independent, join a startup and give everything you've got for 1-3years and wait to go IPO or get aquired. By that time, you'll be 30-32yo and will be able to afford spending countless hours on getbig and have plenty of money in the bank.

brilliant

[wavelength]

As if not every CV trick is known by good recruiters 

[The Luke]

Anyone happen to know any of the "tricks" used in the science recruitment field?

I have a degree in experimental physics but haven't worked anything other than minimum wage since I left college five years ago... topsy-turvy Irish jobs market.

Just sent out my two thousandth (yes, I keep track) job application... no job offers... no interest... no prospects... never even had an interview (ever).


If anyone has any pointers I'd be happy to hear them...



The Luke

[Bluto]

Anyone happen to know any of the "tricks" used in the science recruitment field?

I have a degree in experimental physics but haven't worked anything other than minimum wage since I left college five years ago... topsy-turvy Irish jobs market.

Just sent out my two thousandth (yes, I keep track) job application... no job offers... no interest... no prospects... never even had an interview (ever).


If anyone has any pointers I'd be happy to hear them...



The Luke

[wavelength]

Anyone happen to know any of the "tricks" used in the science recruitment field?

I have a degree in experimental physics but haven't worked anything other than minimum wage since I left college five years ago... topsy-turvy Irish jobs market.

Just sent out my two thousandth (yes, I keep track) job application... no job offers... no interest... no prospects... never even had an interview (ever).


If anyone has any pointers I'd be happy to hear them...



The Luke

I would recommend finding a few companies that are actually interesting to you and learn as much about them as possible. Be honest in your CV and give a few hints that you actually know something about them. Do not use CV templates or standard phrases as they are easily identified. Leave out personal stuff like hobbies etc., no recruiter is interested in that. Only provide hard facts. Don't hesitate to call when you are really interested in working at a specific company. Good luck!

[Bluto]

I think Luke was kidding, nobody can be THAT big a loser.

[Mars]

maybe he has link to getbig in cv and hes not aware?

[ToxicAvenger]

i am a programmer, how do i make a couple hundred g's a year like you do?

move to DC...get a clerance...


if u r good at what u do you'll top out at 150-180ish..

still good $

[dr.chimps]

Anyone happen to know any of the "tricks" used in the science recruitment field?

I have a degree in experimental physics but haven't worked anything other than minimum wage since I left college five years ago... topsy-turvy Irish jobs market.

Just sent out my two thousandth (yes, I keep track) job application... no job offers... no interest... no prospects... never even had an interview (ever).
If anyone has any pointers I'd be happy to hear them...
The Luke

Hmmm. Sending out resumes is too passive. Go back to the department and look at the job offer board. Talk to faculty and 'sell' yourself to them - maybe they have contacts? Actually go to conferences and (without being a pain) be involved, somehow. Maybe do some assistance work, TA stuff just to keep your hand in. And don't, don't mention the Bigfoot research sideline. Just of the top of me head. 

/best of luck

[Marty Champions]

bast you need to visualize homey

[Mars]

im going to marry on old hot rich lady and do absolutely nothing all day..

[webcake]

bast you need to visualize homey

Are you saying there is the potential to earn a better living mowing lawns all day?

[Bobby]

Move to the Valley or at least in Cal. Get into a product based company that offer stock options. Contrary to popular belief most still do in one form or another. If they like you, they will pay for relocation. I've relocated dozens of engineers from around the world. Options are crucial, you can only make so much as a "plain" enigneer. You can supplement a solid 30-50k  on top of your base with options if the company does "ok".

Make your resume "trendy". SaaS (software as a service) is pretty hot right now. Put related buzzwords (Soap/WSDL, XML, Swing, Adobe Flex, Ruby...)   just to get noticed and then learned about it prior to the interview.

Avoid working in "IT departments" of company XYZ, doing "internal development"; this will kill your career and reduce your marketability. Last thing you know, it's been 5 years working for "Nabisco" doing internal ERP / VB .NET shit and nobody will hire you for nothing else. 

After you've settled for a couple of years and are financially semi-independent, join a startup and give everything you've got for 1-3years and wait to go IPO or get aquired. By that time, you'll be 30-32yo and will be able to afford spending countless hours on getbig and have plenty of money in the bank.

Are you an IT engineer Alex? How long have you been doing this and what is your educational backround?

[Luv2Hurt]

Move to the Valley or at least in Cal. Get into a product based company that offer stock options. Contrary to popular belief most still do in one form or another. If they like you, they will pay for relocation. I've relocated dozens of engineers from around the world. Options are crucial, you can only make so much as a "plain" enigneer. You can supplement a solid 30-50k  on top of your base with options if the company does "ok".

Make your resume "trendy". SaaS (software as a service) is pretty hot right now. Put related buzzwords (Soap/WSDL, XML, Swing, Adobe Flex, Ruby...)   just to get noticed and then learned about it prior to the interview.

Avoid working in "IT departments" of company XYZ, doing "internal development"; this will kill your career and reduce your marketability. Last thing you know, it's been 5 years working for "Nabisco" doing internal ERP / VB .NET shit and nobody will hire you for nothing else. 

After you've settled for a couple of years and are financially semi-independent, join a startup and give everything you've got for 1-3years and wait to go IPO or get aquired. By that time, you'll be 30-32yo and will be able to afford spending countless hours on getbig and have plenty of money in the bank.

This sounds like some good advice for people in this field.  A well laid out success plan, nice.

[Stu]

Anyone happen to know any of the "tricks" used in the science recruitment field?

I have a degree in experimental physics but haven't worked anything other than minimum wage since I left college five years ago... topsy-turvy Irish jobs market.

Just sent out my two thousandth (yes, I keep track) job application... no job offers... no interest... no prospects... never even had an interview (ever).


If anyone has any pointers I'd be happy to hear them...



The Luke

Move to a country with better employment prospects would be my advice.

[Mars]

Are you saying there is the potential to earn a better living mowing lawns all day?

with nice weather its so much better than having a desk job.

[bigdumbbell]

move to a country with indoor plumbing is the first step.

[The Luke]

Wavelength,

Good points... I use several different versions of my CV. Nope, I don't mention any personal interests or other such superfluous shite: something best avoided when you have my interests... (Amateur Bigfoot Hunter; Part-time Adventurer and sometime Treasure Hunter).


Dr Chimps,

Also good points with regard to using the college faculty at my alma mater... but been there, done that... I've pretty much worn out my welcome with the Trinity career office. In fact, at different times over the past five years I've been on friendly terms with the career officers/career offices of pretty much every major Dublin college... all to no avail. Not one of these colleges has a "job board" (not for the hardcore sciences anyway)... quite the contrary, Irish colleges just leave their students to fend for themselves. My brother just finished a chemistry degree at UCD (University College Dublin) and before the final exams all the science students were called to a meeting where it was explained to them that they shouldn't take any holidays after the exams, because they would need the money in order to emigrate as there are no science jobs in Ireland.

This tallies well with my own experience and that of my classmates (all either unemployed or under-employed in unrelated fields). I know a guy with a PhD in computational quantum mechanics who is currently pedaling tourists around Dublin in a rickshaw for tips (no wage).

I know a 40ish guy with a masters in economics (formerly a production plant manager in Germany for both BMW [7 years] and Mercedes [11 years]... fluent German speaker), he's been turned down for even an assessment interview with all 38 recruitment agencies he's visited.

My brother knows a dude who has 4 undergraduate degrees (two languages, engineering and something else), that guy has been on unemployed for the past two years.

I know a qualified engineer (degree and chartered) who's working as a barman... and that's part time.


Celtic Tiger economy my arse!

All the good jobs over here dried up after 9/11... every incompetent fuck who graduated the year before me is on €50,000+ ($75,000 approx) and the whole economy is being subsidized by minimum wage workers... I've lost out on minimum wage construction site jobs lugging furniture up and down stairs because I don't speak Polish!

I haven't been passive either... I've offered a €5,000 under-the-counter/off-the-books cash bonus/bribe to any recruitment agent who can place me in anything better than minimum wage (any type of job in any industry)... the result: dozens of responses congratulating me on my initiative, but no job offers. 


You Americans don't know how lucky you are...


The Luke
PS-any Irish based GetBiggers reading this who think they can help me out just pm me... I'll do pretty much anything that pays better than minimum wage (menial jobs are no problem).

[The Master]

Wavelength,

Good points... I use several different versions of my CV. Nope, I don't mention any personal interests or other such superfluous shite: something best avoided when you have my interests... (Amateur Bigfoot Hunter; Part-time Adventurer and sometime Treasure Hunter).


Dr Chimps,

Also good points with regard to using the college faculty at my alma mater... but been there, done that... I've pretty much worn out my welcome with the Trinity career office. In fact, at different times over the past five years I've been on friendly terms with the career officers/career offices of pretty much every major Dublin college... all to no avail. Not one of these colleges has a "job board" (not for the hardcore sciences anyway)... quite the contrary, Irish colleges just leave their students to fend for themselves. My brother just finished a chemistry degree at UCD (University College Dublin) and before the final exams all the science students were called to a meeting where it was explained to them that they shouldn't take any holidays after the exams, because they would need the money in order to emigrate as there are no science jobs in Ireland.

This tallies well with my own experience and that of my classmates (all either unemployed or under-employed in unrelated fields). I know a guy with a PhD in computational quantum mechanics who is currently pedaling tourists around Dublin in a rickshaw for tips (no wage).

I know a 40ish guy with a masters in economics (formerly a production plant manager in Germany for both BMW [7 years] and Mercedes [11 years]... fluent German speaker), he's been turned down for even an assessment interview with all 38 recruitment agencies he's visited.

My brother knows a dude who has 4 undergraduate degrees (two languages, engineering and something else), that guy has been on unemployed for the past two years.

I know a qualified engineer (degree and chartered) who's working as a barman... and that's part time.


Celtic Tiger economy my arse!

All the good jobs over here dried up after 9/11... every incompetent fuck who graduated the year before me is on €50,000+ ($75,000 approx) and the whole economy is being subsidized by minimum wage workers... I've lost out on minimum wage construction site jobs lugging furniture up and down stairs because I don't speak Polish!

I haven't been passive either... I've offered a €5,000 under-the-counter/off-the-books cash bonus/bribe to any recruitment agent who can place me in anything better than minimum wage (any type of job in any industry)... the result: dozens of responses congratulating me on my initiative, but no job offers. 


You Americans don't know how lucky you are...


The Luke
PS-any Irish based GetBiggers reading this who think they can help me out just pm me... I'll do pretty much anything that pays better than minimum wage (menial jobs are no problem).

What about starting to look for jobs in another country? Obviously, you're a bright fellow, and you graduated with honors?

[The Luke]

What about starting to look for jobs in another country? Obviously, you're a bright fellow, and you graduated with honors?

...well I'm off to Oz to do a little recon on the Yowie (Australian Bigfoot: Blue Mountains, Sydney) sometime early next year (probably February). I think it's best to wait till after that trip to decide where to go (I've already been to both coasts of the US and Canada).


The Luke

[Bluto]

...well I'm off to Oz to do a little recon on the Yowie (Australian Bigfoot: Blue Mountains, Sydney) sometime early next year (probably February). I think it's best to wait till after that trip to decide where to go (I've already been to both coasts of the US and Canada).


The Luke

serious question, are you retarded?