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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #275 on: July 03, 2008, 06:30:55 PM »
Anyone here in Montana?

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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #276 on: July 03, 2008, 06:47:02 PM »
Anyone here in Montana?
Went skiing there once.  We stayed in Whitefish and downhill skied on Big Mountain (I think that's what it was called).  We also went cross-country skiing for the first time ever in Glacier National Park.  Montana was beautiful.
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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #277 on: July 03, 2008, 06:50:11 PM »
Chicago seemed really nice too. Nice city.
No doubt about it...

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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #278 on: July 03, 2008, 07:13:47 PM »
Chicago seemed really nice too. Nice city.

You've obviously never lived there.  ::)

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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #279 on: July 03, 2008, 07:28:22 PM »
You've obviously never lived there.  ::)

lol, no. Purely made from a tourist point of view...
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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #280 on: July 03, 2008, 08:16:54 PM »
Some nice places I've seen:  Winston-Salem, NC; Warrenton, VA; Portland, OR; and Seattle, WA.  None of them compare to Hawaii, but they are nice places. 

I was recently in San Diego and I have to say that place has really gotten ugly.  Doesn't seem like it ever recovered from the drought years ago.  Very brown.  And the smog is awful.   

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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #281 on: July 03, 2008, 09:04:39 PM »
Went skiing there once.  We stayed in Whitefish and downhill skied on Big Mountain (I think that's what it was called).  We also went cross-country skiing for the first time ever in Glacier National Park.  Montana was beautiful.

I wanna live in A River Runs Through It.

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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #282 on: July 04, 2008, 07:34:38 AM »
USA #1....
I hate the State.

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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #283 on: July 04, 2008, 06:31:59 PM »
Not a real expert but as an outsider, I very much like the bay area (especially Sau Salito, worked there for a couple of weeks). I also like Austin and San Antonio. I would generally prefer small towns over the big cities in the US.

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« Reply #284 on: July 05, 2008, 05:20:47 AM »

I was recently in San Diego and I have to say that place has really gotten ugly.  Doesn't seem like it ever recovered from the drought years ago.  Very brown.  And the smog is awful.   

really beach. I was born and raised there and moved away in 90 and have been back about 10 times since I moved away. Last time I was there was in April 05. I was there just for my daughters godmothers  wedding. I'm heading out there at the end of August for my 20 year reunion. Thats super sad to hear. I loved growing up there. I'll be looking to see what kind of paralegal work there is, because I would love to move back there with my little one

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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #285 on: July 05, 2008, 08:11:43 PM »
really beach. I was born and raised there and moved away in 90 and have been back about 10 times since I moved away. Last time I was there was in April 05. I was there just for my daughters godmothers  wedding. I'm heading out there at the end of August for my 20 year reunion. Thats super sad to hear. I loved growing up there. I'll be looking to see what kind of paralegal work there is, because I would love to move back there with my little one

Newmom I've spent a lot of time there too over the years and the change has been pretty stark.  My view is influenced by the fact I live in a place that has clean/clear air, plenty of rain, lots of green, etc.  Someone who lives in Dallas, Chicago, NYC, etc. might think San Diego is beautiful.

The smog has gotten very bad.  It used to be pretty much confined to L.A., but now it's all over San Diego.  Even at the beach.

I'd live in Coronado, La Jolla, or any of the coastal towns (Solana Beach, Cardiff, etc.), but inland isn't very nice IMO.     

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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #286 on: July 05, 2008, 08:13:38 PM »
Booooo.  I could come up with a better list.   :)

America's Best Places to Raise a Family
By Zack O'Malley Greenburg, Forbes.com
Jul 2nd, 2008

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Great schools, low crime and a desirable cost of living are among the qualities that make these 20 spots fine for folks and their kids.

Steve Schwartz and his wife, Lori, have spent the last 30 years running Schwartz's Bait and Tackle in Noblesville, Ind. Just 15 miles north of downtown Indianapolis, they sell fishing equipment and rent canoes to locals like Indianapolis Colts kicker Adam Vinatieri and former Formula One racer Derek Daly.

They've also discovered something most Americans are still searching for: the ideal place to raise a family. Their sons, Pete and Eddie, 26 and 22, who still help out at the store, are the products of an idyllic upbringing in Hamilton County,

"It's the best of the best," says the 47-year-old Schwartz, also a Hamilton County councilman, referring to the area and its quaint hamlets, low crime and desirable cost of living. "It's a great place to raise your family. It's safe, it's fun, it's affordable and it's growing."

In Pictures: America’s Best Places To Raise A Family

It's qualities like these that landed Hamilton County atop Forbes' list. Ozaukee County, Wis., and Johnson County, Kan. came in second and third. Rounding out the top five? Geauga and Delaware Counties in Ohio. Chester County, Pa., and Hunterdon County, N.J. placed in the top ten. All earn high marks for their low cost of living, reasonably priced homes and short commute times. They also offer terrific schools, one of the most important characteristics to consider when choosing a place to raise a family.

"What parents need to look for are communities that have the resources to promote physical, social and cognitive development," says Dr. Margo Napoletano, a San Diego-based psychologist with 20 years of experience specializing in children and their families. "This includes a strong school system that provides after-school programs."

Behind The Numbers
Forbes' rankings are skewed toward counties with good school districts. Using research provided by the Tax Foundation, a nonpartisan tax research group based in Washington, D.C., we started with a list of the nation's counties with populations over 65,000. To eliminate under-funded school districts, we isolated 97 counties where more than half of per-pupil spending comes from property taxes.

Next, we knocked off all the counties with average SAT scores under 1,050 (math and verbal combined) or average ACT scores under 22, leaving us with 51 counties.

Raising a happy family requires more than just a good school system. With that in mind, we ranked the remaining counties using 10 data points: cost of living, graduation rate, standardized scores, home price, property tax rate as a percentage of median home price, percentage of homes occupied by owner, per-capita income, air quality, crime rate and commute time.

A long commute "can certainly contribute to stress on a family," says Napoletano. "If you come home and the kids are already in bed, that detracts from family life, both psychologically and economically, especially considering today's gas prices."

Some of the most posh counties in the nation didn't make the cut because their rankings were tainted by outrageous home prices or lengthy commutes. Westchester County, N.Y., home to ritzy enclaves like Chappaqua and Scarsdale, was sunk by a 31-minute average commute time and a median home price approaching $600,000. Fairfax County, Va., suffered a similar fate.

Other swank suburbs made our list. Because of an outstanding school system and abundant employment opportunities, Marin County, Calif., cracked the top 20 despite a whopping median home price of $901,900. Montgomery County, Pa., famous for its sumptuous Main Line suburbs and the King of Prussia Mall, made the top 10 with solid scores across the board and a median home price less than a third of Marin's.

There are, of course, scores of other, more personal factors to consider: political atmosphere, religious climate, proximity to friends and family, and community personality, to name a few. But don't forget the obvious ones.

"Consider parks, consider recreation programs, consider shopping malls," says Napoletano. "Teenagers love to hang out with their friends at shopping malls. That can promote social development too."

http://promo.realestate.yahoo.com/americas-best-places-to-raise-a-family.html

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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #287 on: July 06, 2008, 09:58:44 AM »
Newmom I've spent a lot of time there too over the years and the change has been pretty stark.  My view is influenced by the fact I live in a place that has clean/clear air, plenty of rain, lots of green, etc.  Someone who lives in Dallas, Chicago, NYC, etc. might think San Diego is beautiful.

The smog has gotten very bad.  It used to be pretty much confined to L.A., but now it's all over San Diego.  Even at the beach.

I'd live in Coronado, La Jolla, or any of the coastal towns (Solana Beach, Cardiff, etc.), but inland isn't very nice IMO.     

Aww Coronado, my old stomping ground and ate plenty of meals at the night and day cafe. LaJolla was where I spent my entire junior and high school life. I ditched many a days from Mira Mesa High (when it was nice) to be at the beach. I still think San Diego is great.

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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #288 on: July 06, 2008, 08:53:25 PM »
Aww Coronado, my old stomping ground and ate plenty of meals at the night and day cafe. LaJolla was where I spent my entire junior and high school life. I ditched many a days from Mira Mesa High (when it was nice) to be at the beach. I still think San Diego is great.

Parts of it are okay, but I have a hard time getting past the smog and change from green to brown.  The weather seems to have changed too.  It used to have some of the best weather in the world.  Stayed around low to mid 70s most of the year.  They have more extremes now. 

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« Reply #289 on: July 07, 2008, 03:09:26 AM »
Good to know, I still cant wait to go for a whole 10 days. Cant wait to go to disneyland, zoo and sea world. Havent been to those places in about 20 years.  I  know my little one is going to have a ball. Cant be any more extreme than humid east coast

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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #290 on: July 08, 2008, 01:08:22 PM »
Sure...  most of them.  Total taxes on income tend to be 45-55%, they there's a VAT tax on everything you buy in the 20-25% range. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_of_Europe
(oh, and that doesn't include real estate taxes).   ::)
You're surely not trying to claim taxes in Europe aren't significantly higher than they are in America, are you?  ::)

Just because I saw this:

1.) You cannot add income tax and VAT (e.g. 50% income tax + 20% VAT does not equal 70% tax). In this case it would be 58.333% because the 20% VAT is payed only from what is left after income tax.

2.) Most of those income tax numbers are the maximum rate which you only pay for a certain amount of income (not a flat tax, this is only mentioned for a few countries in the Wiki article, but most likely applies to all countries). The real income tax will always be below that. Only if you are in the +100.000 Euro/year range, you will come close. In this case however, you will more likely get at least part of your income from dividend payouts or bonuses, which are usually taxed lower.

3.) The VAT numbers are also maximum numbers. In Austria e.g. the 20% does not apply to groceries, books, transportation, cultural events, etc., which are only taxed 10%. Again, this is only mentioned for a few countries in the Wiki article.

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« Reply #291 on: July 09, 2008, 09:18:22 AM »
Which is the best place to live in the us?

Very underrated topic!

Twelve pages of people posting proves that.

I just would like to mention something to those people who still reside in the Los Angeles area region.

Are any of you folks still living inside the LA County area or are people very familiar with Los Angeles and it's surrounding areas have been able to vernture out into suburbs such as Pomona, Yorba Linda, Covina, Fontana, Corona, or Rialto. 

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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #292 on: July 10, 2008, 09:51:30 AM »
Which is the best place to live in the us?

Very underrated topic!

Twelve pages of people posting proves that.

I just would like to mention something to those people who still reside in the Los Angeles area region.

Are any of you folks still living inside the LA County area or are people very familiar with Los Angeles and it's surrounding areas have been able to vernture out into suburbs such as Pomona, Yorba Linda, Covina, Fontana, Corona, or Rialto. 

LA is a shithole plain and simple!

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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #293 on: July 10, 2008, 10:12:49 AM »
Are any of you folks still living inside the LA County area or are people very familiar with Los Angeles and it's surrounding areas have been able to vernture out into suburbs such as Pomona, Fontana, or Rialto

Is this still considered American land?


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Re: which is the best place to live in the us?
« Reply #294 on: July 10, 2008, 10:23:56 AM »
North-Dakota fucktards.

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« Reply #295 on: July 10, 2008, 10:46:42 AM »
North-Dakota fucktards.

Is this a local football team?