I know Jay packs much more muscle mass than Dexter but nowadays his physique is just out of control as far as symmetry, waistline and conditioning goes. Three things Dexter has. The competition today being of a lower caliber than, say, 10 years ago when you had guys like Levrone, Flex, Ray, Cormier, Ronnie of course, etc...I think Dex is above most of the competition right now, except Wolf and maybe the grapefruit addict.