The most complete back of all time...

[Hulkster]

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one has striations, the other has Jay Cutler-like skin folds..

[Hulkster]

 

doughian is being embarassed.

[Hulkster]

that shot is from 01 and DJ dwarfed ronnie in that photo shoot.

the master of stupidity rises again....

dwarfed my ass

[Hulkster]

just look at this lat spread.

one from 98, the other from 99 GP

both better than doz.

[Hulkster]

check out the shoulder to waist differential on Ronnie 99 in that shot

dorian couldn't touch that lat spread with a 20 foot pole.

[Hulkster]

so good its worth posting AGAIN:

deal with it dorian nuthuggers:

the real question is what excuses will they come up with THIS TIME?

[suckmymuscle]

umm, is this a joke? I can't tell if you're being serious. You said yourself that Ronnie was harder and more detailed at the 01 ASC and wider and thicker in 03. This translates into their backs also having those attributes. I've never heard of a bodybuilder being harder and more detailed while at the same time his back looks softer and less defined. Perhaps you can give an example since you seem to believe this can happen?

  My point is that Ronnie's overral package was better at the 2001 ASC, but it does not follow that his back was better. His overral package was better because he was harder, had a smaller waist and his gut was less distended, and while the back gained in cuts and hardness, it lost in terms of mass, so it was not necessarily better than in 1999. The decreased size made his overral physique better despite the loss in size, but the smaller back with more cuts was not better than the one he had in 1999. Just because coming in smaller and sharper made his total package better, it doesen't mean that it made his back better. Two different things.

all I see is talk and no visual evidence to support your claim. There is no reason to think 01 ASC Ronnie's lats weren't as wide as Dorian's judging from the pics.

  Again, it is an illusion of size caused by Ronnie's significantly smaller waist. And Ronnie's lower back is clearly less developed than Dorian's, adding to the ilusion of greater lat width even further.

We're talking about the best back of all-time here. If 2 guys have equal width, thickness, and detail but one has bacne and skin folds, then the decision should go to the bodybuilder without any skin imperfections.

  Dorian 1995 didn'd have acne, and he didn't have skin folds either. And prove to me that judges even take such intangible postulates into account in making their decisions.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

Dorian 1995 didn'd have acne, and he didn't have skin folds either

actually the skin folds were in full force - dorian trained them extra hard that year...

dorian 95 pales in comparison to a peak Ronnie Coleman:

countdown to the excuses!!!!
 

[Hulkster]

this just in: dorian has better calves.

unfortunately, that is all he has going for him in that pose against Ronnie...

from the knees up, its a total massacre in every way - ronnie has better detail, better thickness, better taper, and those arms, glutes, hams etc.

its not even close.

except for the calves of course LOL

but thats why dorian was second to Ronnie in the flex poll..

dorian has no problem being second.

after all, being second to a back that good is not too shabby.

[England_1]

Chris' back is actually wider than Coleman's LOL

[Hulkster]

dorian concedes defeat...

[IceCold]

so good its worth posting AGAIN:

deal with it dorian nuthuggers:

the real question is what excuses will they come up with THIS TIME?

excuses for what?

you seem to think that your opinion is a fact.

the only fact is that you've been busted for posting shopped pics.

"overwhelming visual evidence" - hahahaha.

here's someone's opinion that does matter:

from ronnie coleman himself:  DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen


tell us again, hulkster, since you can read minds, what ronnie really means.

in the past, you've spouted off trying to tell us what ronnie really meant - like he's need you to do that for him.


owned.

[IceCold]

but thats why dorian was second to Ronnie in the flex poll..

dorian has no problem being second.

after all, being second to a back that good is not too shabby.

i've seen other polls, from flex after 1999, where yates was # 1.

it was the jan 2000 issue.

flex had a workout for the "best bodyparts of all time" arnold's chest and bi's, platz legs, etc.

that is after ronnie hit his peak of 1999.

[NarcissisticDeity]

excuses for what?

you seem to think that your opinion is a fact.

the only fact is that you've been busted for posting shopped pics.

"overwhelming visual evidence" - hahahaha.

here's someone's opinion that does matter:

from ronnie coleman himself:  DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen


tell us again, hulkster, since you can read minds, what ronnie really means.

in the past, you've spouted off trying to tell us what ronnie really meant - like he's need you to do that for him.


owned.

Great post ! lol that quote is from 2003 too ! right before the Olympia " Ronnie was being humble " no Ronnie was being humbled lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

actually the skin folds were in full force - dorian trained them extra hard that year...

dorian 95 pales in comparison to a peak Ronnie Coleman:

countdown to the excuses!!!!
 

The fact you actually think Ronnie in this shot compared is beyond rational thought , Dorian's back is blowing Ronnie's out of the water . NO CONTEST

[NarcissisticDeity]

I dare you to show me ANY Coleman shots that surpass these I challenged you guys eons ago and still NOTHING lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

Fact you cannot lengthen muscles so no matter what weight Ronnie is his traps will NEVER be bigger than Dorian's or thicker and he could never replicate the density at detail of them , you can actually see where Dorian's traps are separated from the upper & lower and you can clearly see striations while you cannot with Ronnie

Dorian is the clear winner in traps

Lats again one cannot change the length of a muscle Ronnie will NEVER have lats as low as Dorian NO matter what weight he is , Dorian's lats insert near the waist Ronnie's higher up this is analogous to have high calves , Dorian's lats are feathered the length of the lower portion Ronnie's are NOT , Dorian's lats have more area so even if Ronnie matches or slightly edges Yates out in length at his heaviest its moot he's still not as thick or detailed

Dorian is the clear winner in Lats

Lower back , This is one area Dorian's naturally wider waist & hips actually helps in terms of development of the spinal erectors , his christmass tree is again much better than Coleman's

Dorian is the clear winner in lower back

Infranspinatus & Teres , Dorian again clear winner both of these muscles are larger period and deeply etched , Ronnie's torso being short and his lats higher his back looks stuffed into small area and all of is features appear so

This is exactly why Dorian has a better back , UNTOUCHED NON-PHOTOSHOPPED pics prove my points and you people can't counter them.

[NeoSeminole]

My point is that Ronnie's overral package was better at the 2001 ASC, but it does not follow that his back was better. His overral package was better because he was harder, had a smaller waist and his gut was less distended, and while the back gained in cuts and hardness, it lost in terms of mass, so it was not necessarily better than in 1999. The decreased size made his overral physique better despite the loss in size, but the smaller back with more cuts was not better than the one he had in 1999. Just because coming in smaller and sharper made his total package better, it doesen't mean that it made his back better. Two different things.

you make it sound like Ronnie's back lost a lot of size from 99 to the 01 ASC. In reality, his back was probably the same width and thickness. Most of the loss in weight came from his legs. When you consider Ronnie weighed only 10 lbs less with improved condition, his back didn't really suffer any loss in size at all. You admitted that he was harder and more detailed in 01. So his back was, for all intents and purposes, the same width and thickness with improved hardness and definition. Thus his back was better at the 01 ASC.

Again, it is an illusion of size caused by Ronnie's significantly smaller waist. And Ronnie's lower back is clearly less developed than Dorian's, adding to the ilusion of greater lat width even further.

maybe you are easily fooled by illusions? I'm looking at the same pics as you, and Ronnie's back looks just as wide. As for his lower back being less developed than Dorian's, you are out of your f*cking mind. I admit this comparison I made isn't scaled 100% accurately, but it serves to show the difference in thickness of their erector spinae. Dorian's looks flat as a pancake while Ronnie's has depth.

Dorian 1995 didn'd have acne, and he didn't have skin folds either. And prove to me that judges even take such intangible postulates into account in making their decisions.

we're talking about best back here - NOT which physique would win in a contest. I don't have to prove that the judges take bacne and skin folds into consideration.

[NarcissisticDeity]

you make it sound like Ronnie's back lost a lot of size from 99 to the 01 ASC. In reality, his back was probably the same width and thickness. Most of the loss in weight came from his legs. When you consider Ronnie weighed only 10 lbs less with improved condition, his back didn't really suffer any loss in size at all. You admitted that he was harder and more detailed in 01. So his back was, for all intents and purposes, the same width and thickness with improved hardness and definition. Thus his back was better at the 01 ASC.

maybe you are easily fooled by illusions? I'm looking at the same pics as you, and Ronnie's back looks just as wide. As for his lower back being less developed than Dorian's, you are out of your f*cking mind. I admit this comparison I made isn't scaled 100% accurately, but it serves to show the difference in thickness of their erector spinae. Dorian's looks flat as a pancake while Ronnie's has depth.



we're talking about best back here - NOT which physique would win in a contest. I don't have to prove that the judges take bacne and skin folds into consideration.

lmfao at your comparison Dorian's fucking waist & hips are just as narrow if NOT more so than a 247 pound Ronnie , take a look at the comparison ABOVE because thats a more accurate representation of how a 250 pound Ronnie compares in both terms of width and thickness compared to a 257 pound Dorian so please spare us your fan-boy comparisons they're laughable

and this is the same guy that has ZERO problem with Ronnie winning with bitch tits yet complains when Yates is taking to much test lol see hypocrite 

[England_1]

Dorian is just murdering Coleman here on condition, it's not even close. Coleman's back is puffy and soft in comparison. Dorian's delts are also about twice the size

[Hulkster]

and his arms are about half the size..

despite what the delusional nuthuggers say, dorian in 95 displayed all the trademarks that dorian was to become known for:

-undersized, pea shooter arms
-horrible rolls of loose skin
-horrible bacne.

its all there folks:

reality sucks sometimes, doesn't it?

its a shame the nuthuggers are in such denial about these horrible calling cards of the Yatesian physique.. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

and his arms are about half the size..

despite what the delusional nuthuggers say, dorian in 95 displayed all the trademarks that dorian was to become known for:

-undersized, pea shooter arms
-horrible rolls of loose skin
-horrible bacne.

its all there folks:

reality sucks sometimes, doesn't it?

its a shame the nuthuggers are in such denial about these horrible calling cards of the Yatesian physique.. 

yawn all 1995 BTW

next

Hulkster = owned again

[m8]

dorian concedes defeat...

He has a smile on his face. He knows very well that he beat him numerous times and would have been able to beat him at his best, too.

[Hulkster]

He has a smile on his face. He knows very well that he beat him numerous times and would have been able to beat him at his best, too.

LOL

yeah sure:

[NarcissisticDeity]

He has a smile on his face. He knows very well that he beat him numerous times and would have been able to beat him at his best, too.

8 times he destroyed Ronnie , granted Ronnie wasn't at his best but neither was Yates lol and even not being at his best he still managed to beat Haney in the muscularity round in 1991 that speaks volumes.