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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2008, 09:20:58 AM »
Dorian was a fucking warrior, busting his ass everyday alone in his dungeon just for the day of the Olympia.

Amen brother. They would bitch and cry and the fanboys still do when he beat the prettyboys, but everytime he showed up with the most muscle and the best condition. HAHAHA That's why he won ;D

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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2008, 08:31:55 PM »
Nazis yes , but real skins? each to there own mate..he was part of a rebelious youth at the time in Britain..Teens get attracted to these types of groups,they still do.

Dorian wasnt your normal everyday teen , he was a rebel and "different" I think he should be applauded,he came from nothing and applyed himself to become the best bodybuilder in the world.

Give the man credit.  :)
I give him credit for becoming the 2nd best bodybuilder on the planet..Ronnie is #1..

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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2008, 08:45:00 PM »
I give him credit for becoming the 2nd best bodybuilder on the planet..Ronnie is #1..
Diff era bro..Ronnie built on what Dorian created.

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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2008, 04:34:10 AM »
Yates had poor arms, small quads, a huge torso, wheas Ronnie at his best was huge all over and dominated very single pose and had bodyparts(except calves) that were better than any other competitor
Could have stopped the thread right here, nothing more need be said. Let me just add that 8 Sandows beats 6 Sandows last time I checked.
If we were to look at these two drug free, the margin widens even further in Ronnie's favor. Great structure!
Now please no more of this.  :)

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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2008, 05:05:24 AM »
Endless debate. It's only a matter of point of view. If to you bodybuilding is about the "path" (discipline, will power, etc...) then there's no doubt Dorian is the better man, probably the most devoted Bber ever, a guy who overcame multiple obsctacles (so-so genetics, basic facilities, etc...) to become a pioneer and change the face of Bbing. If all that matters to you is the result, the "produced" body, then Ronnie (at least '98-'99) is a clear winner, probably the best equation that drugs, genetics and training has created 'til now. If Ronnie had Dorian's brains, he would have reached his peak earlier and a higher peak also IMHO.

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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2008, 09:04:30 AM »
Endless debate. It's only a matter of point of view. If to you bodybuilding is about the "path" (discipline, will power, etc...) then there's no doubt Dorian is the better man, probably the most devoted Bber ever, a guy who overcame multiple obsctacles (so-so genetics, basic facilities, etc...) to become a pioneer and change the face of Bbing. If all that matters to you is the result, the "produced" body, then Ronnie (at least '98-'99) is a clear winner, probably the best equation that drugs, genetics and training has created 'til now. If Ronnie had Dorian's brains, he would have reached his peak earlier and a higher peak also IMHO.

So-so genetics lol are you high?

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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2008, 03:14:57 PM »
why dorian?

well, to be honest, no one knows..

because other than to ND and his bitch Suckmyasshole, no one even mentions peak Ronnie and dorian in the same sentence.

ronnie was that far ahead at his peak: :-\
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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2008, 05:17:37 PM »
why dorian?

well, to be honest, no one knows..

because other than to ND and his bitch Suckmyasshole, no one even mentions peak Ronnie and dorian in the same sentence.

ronnie was that far ahead at his peak: :-\

photoshopped  ;)

and everyone mentions both in the same sentence , Ronnie does and we all know how he feels lol  ;)

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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2008, 05:27:40 PM »
photoshopped  ;)

and everyone mentions both in the same sentence , Ronnie does and we all know how he feels lol  ;)
photoshopped my ass

thats not one of Bizzy's adjusted pics..

in fact NONE OF THE ONES I EVER POST ARE..

a fact you cannot seem to understand..



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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2008, 05:29:51 PM »
Bodybuilding is pretty much the finished article, what you see up on the stage. However, as fans we know other stuff like the dedication, training, nutrition. When you consider Dorian's genetics and predicament , his turnaround is far more remarkable. He was going nowhere, in youth jail for petty offences while Coleman was a big, dumb cop (frightening that this mental midget was ever law enforcement). Yates bust his ass and built a monster physique. He was a pioneer, built the first true freak physique. Coleman was an average pro at this same stage despite being a similar age.

 Yates is way more remarkable as a man and a bodybuilding story. He went from nothing to usher in a whole new age of freakdom while Coleman was always a good 7 or 8 places behind. Dorian was stuck in a shithole like England for years training in a basic gym while the others were living the dream in the good ole USA. He is pure blood and guts when Ronnie could only make something of himself once he got on a decent drug programme . Ronnie is truly 'all drugs' when there is more to Yates. Yates is sheer will and he built a better physique with more limited genetics.

For this he is truly the greatest of all time and a pioneer in terms of his physique and training. He was an experimenter and originator while Ronnie is a dumb wildebeest totally dependent on others for guidance and his bigger genetic gifts.

Dorian, we salute you. The great white hope. A fucking legend.

this is all irrelvant

it's all about what you see on stage and ronnie was better

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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2008, 05:31:23 PM »
photoshopped my ass

thats not one of Bizzy's adjusted pics..

in fact NONE OF THE ONES I EVER POST ARE..

a fact you cannot seem to understand..



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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2008, 07:23:52 PM »
I think you mean Yates is all drugs. Ronnie as a natural would dominate Yates on so many levels. Ronnie's genetics is what allowed him to improve in his mid 30's, a time when most pros go down the drain. The guy is and will be the greatest ever in terms of genetics, strength and whatever.

Plus Ronnie shattered the bar that Dorian set. And it wasn't only Ronnie, but others before like Nasser, Dillet, Fux who pushed the limits of size and conditioning.

Ronnie dominated most of his victories, including 2001, regardless of what people say or think. Yates was gifted in 4-6 of his Mr. Olympia victories, but did dominate '92 and '93 in an awesome way.

But to each his own I guess.


What if? :)  What if I had the hormones in my body for 5 years that Ronnie or Dorian had and used? :)  What if?  ahhhhh

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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2008, 09:40:48 PM »
WHO CARES

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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2008, 10:57:39 PM »

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Re: Dorian Vs Ronnie - why it has to be Dorian
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2008, 02:43:21 AM »
The reality is - it's a matter of preference! I am a big fan of both but prefer Dorian!  Doesn't mean Dorian is better or worse than Ronnie. This is bodybuilding it's completely subjective. For every fault Dorian has Ronnie has a fault in a different area.