Clen or ECA

[candidizzle]

it depends on how you define "potent"

clen has a long half life and burns fat around the clock.  eca does not

yes, and i addressed that already.   but on  a "minute to minute" scale, which one helps burn fat at a quicker rate? ephedrine, no doubt. and it does so through more than just the one pathway, through several. and it takes less time to "accumulate" to ephedrine that it does to clen.

[CC973]

2 questions...

i see that the bronkaid contains ephedrine sulfate not ephedrine hcl.  is the hcl form better for fat burning or is it pretty much the same?

why add the asprin to the mix?  i have read it wasnt really necassary.

[Princess L]

2 questions...

i see that the bronkaid contains ephedrine sulfate not ephedrine hcl.  is the hcl form better for fat burning or is it pretty much the same?

  Good question. It's been asked before.  I don't think I've seen anything scientific regarding one over the other.

why add the asprin to the mix?  i have read it wasnt really necassary.

It's not necessary for fat burning purposes according to studies I've seen.

[Knives]

yes, and i addressed that already.   but on  a "minute to minute" scale, which one helps burn fat at a quicker rate? ephedrine, no doubt. and it does so through more than just the one pathway, through several. and it takes less time to "accumulate" to ephedrine that it does to clen.

are you going on anecdotal evidence that you hear from anonymous people online, or is there any evidence?

[CC973]

  Good question. It's been asked before.  I don't think I've seen anything scientific regarding one over the other.
It's not necessary for fat burning purposes according to studies I've seen.

ok thats what i thought.

i have done the combo with and without the asprin and never noticed any difference.

[bigdarksnake]

Yo Candi, or anyone who has done some extensive research of clen, does it actually have any anti-catabolic effects on humans?

[Luolamies]

I've heard and read that efedrin sulfate is much more toxic and impure than efedrin hcl. I'm not sure whether this is true or not, but i have used both and i think that hcl is much better or at least much more potent. Low carbs, cardio and eca will melt the the fat or if it doesnt something is really wrong with you...

[CC973]

I've heard and read that efedrin sulfate is much more toxic and impure than efedrin hcl. I'm not sure whether this is true or not, but i have used both and i think that hcl is much better or at least much more potent. Low carbs, cardio and eca will melt the the fat or if it doesnt something is really wrong with you...

do you have a link for the info on ephedrin sulfate vs hcl?

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

I'm taking ECA now and feel like I'm gonna have a heart attack

[Knives]

I'm taking ECA now and feel like I'm gonna have a heart attack

It's probably anxiety

Unless you feel a lot of pressure on your chest and you have difficulty breathing

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

Perhaps,

5 minutes later, and deep breaths and I was fine.

[ATHEIST]

I'm taking ECA now and feel like I'm gonna have a heart attack

what kind of ephedrine are you taking? brand?

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

what kind of ephedrine are you taking? brand?

Kaizen Pharmaceuticals Ephedra HCL 25 mg.

[CC973]

70 bucks for 200 tabs/ 25mg ephedrine hcl.....is that a decent price compared to some of the other brands?



http://www.sndonline.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14&products_id=67

[DK II]

70 bucks for 200 tabs/ 25mg ephedrine hcl.....is that a decent price compared to some of the other brands?



http://www.sndonline.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14&products_id=67

lol, holy shit!

[CC973]

Ok that is actually cheaper then the bolt.  Theres was 170tabs 25mg for $70.


http://www.buyvasoproephedrine.com/bolt-ephedrine-hcl.html