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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2008, 12:01:25 PM »
Not enough to care about reading your retarded post.

There were liberals on here claiming that the smashing of a 4 year old girl's head was for Israeli gain and continue to justify, condone and endorse terrorism.  ::)


Anyone who has followed this stuff for any length of time knows the lies and propaganda that fly both ways.  You're an idiot if you think Israel is totally innocent and has all along played on the level.  Now I know you and your stupid logic will say that means I'm siding with the Arabs... NOT!!!  It takes two.  Liberals do not justify, condone or endorse terror, you just sound like an idiot saying that shit.

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2008, 12:03:23 PM »
Anyone who has followed this stuff for any length of time knows the lies and propaganda that fly both ways.  You're an idiot if you think Israel is totally innocent and has all along played on the level.  Now I know you and your stupid logic will say that means I'm siding with the Arabs... NOT!!!  It takes two.  Liberals do not justiy, condone or endose terror, you just sound like an idiot saying that shit.

No? Jag has been justifying terrorism for months on here. A host of other "liberals" as well. I've never said Israel is innocent, but I found it hilarious when people tried to justify the launching of 2,000+ rockets (several thousand more mortars and rpgs) at an Israeli town across the border while claiming that Hamas doesn't target civilians. THAT is apologist bullshit.

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2008, 12:05:19 PM »
Read it after your post and luckily everything I posted was fine.

By the way, your shitty little digs in that post were hilarious and only prove what everyone has been saying. It's cute that you've been making these threads about Islam trying to deflect the heat from your apologist stance and the fact that you avoid and never refute any thread that validly makes a point about Islam, while instead trying to make a joke out of it and starting other threads like "Crusade."

Keep it up though, it's looking good! You and Jag make a great team!
Oh please ::)  How you can jive "Does this look peaceful to you Hugo?" with what I said in this thread obviously means you didn't read anything I said.  Bush and Blair are the fuckers that said that and I specifically said I have never said or thought that and you come at me with that?  sure you read my posts ::)

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2008, 12:07:02 PM »
Oh please ::)  How you can jive "Does this look peaceful to you Hugo?" with what I said in this thread obviously means you didn't read anything I said.  Bush and Blair are the fuckers that said that and I specifically said I have never said or thought that and you come at me with that?  sure you read my posts ::)

Hey dumb dumb, Bush and Blair didn't coin that term. Are you fucking retarded or something? I read your post, and it's still taking an apologist stab, albeit very sneakily.

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2008, 12:08:19 PM »
No? Jag has been justifying terrorism for months on here. A host of other "liberals" as well. I've never said Israel is innocent, but I found it hilarious when people tried to justify the launching of 2,000+ rockets (several thousand more mortars and rpgs) at an Israeli town across the border while claiming that Hamas doesn't target civilians. THAT is apologist bullshit.
Jag's a nutcase.  I claim no responsiblity for what that clearly disturbed individual does.  I mean come on, she's managed on alienating almost everyone on getbig.    I do not and I do not know anyone who looks at that shit and attempts to justify it.  I have no love of Islam, I never have.  All those religions from that region are shit IMO.  Islam being the worst of them.

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2008, 12:10:10 PM »
Hey dumb dumb, Bush and Blair didn't coin that term. Are you fucking retarded or something? I read your post, and it's still taking an apologist stab, albeit very sneakily.
I didn't say they coined it, I said they were the primary voice of it.  At the height of those blaming Islam, Blair and Bush spoke about Islam being a peaceful religion.  They were the biggest voice of that notion and that's a fact buddy.

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2008, 12:12:07 PM »

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2008, 12:14:45 PM »
and I don't give a fuck about Islam, how the hell am I taking a sneaky approach in defending something I don't give a shit about ::)

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2008, 12:18:11 PM »
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The EU which is comprised of the most left leaning and secular governments on earth...
Yeah, Austria, Italy, Spain, Poland, Portugal, Turkey, Bosnia, Romania, Slovakia....it's just a socialist party year 'round.


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... have repeatedly gone on record to say Islam is a religion of peace publicly even after the Tube bombings in England, the Terrorist attack in Spain, the riots after the Mohammaed cartoons in Denmark, the murder of Theo Van Gogh in the netherlands, even after being stabbed by a muslim for being a homosexual- the former gay Mayor of Paris said exactly that. Paradoxically, the left joins hands with a religion that would exterminate the very fabric of liberal thought and all of its adherents. The reason why Bush and every other world leader has to go on record to say that is because either (A) They dont want left leaning douchebags and other victimization groups to accuse them of discriminating against Islam or (B) They have to say it because they care about the worlds perception ala choice (A) or (C) They are geniunenly brainwashed and delusional like most of Europe, all of Canada and half of America.
I'm not sure what to make of this mishmash of innuendo.  I guess left-leaning mayors are gay and that left leaning douchebags are more worried about discrimination rather than the imminent threat of Islamic followers.

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Before the invasion of Iraq, name your terrorist catastrophe from the first WTC bombings to the bombing of the USS cole, the American Embassy in Kenya, the numerous and almost daily terrorist attacks in Israel= All American heads of state have said Islam is a religion of peace
It's a religion. 

"The English translation is not as eloquent as the original Arabic, but let me quote from the Koran, itself: "In the long run, evil in the extreme will be the end of those who do evil. For that they rejected the signs of Allah and held them up to ridicule." The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war."  --GW Bush

Are you inferring that Bush is a liberal apologist b/c he caved on such a politically correct topic?

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I could sit here all day and give you reasons why liberals are percieved the way they are, but heres a short list:

Liberals are anti Israel and staunch supporters of palastine. Liberals constantly and consistently blame terrorism on hopelessness and depression brought on by external economic factors, a lack of education and American foreign policy. Meanwhile all the Tube bombers in Brittain were middle class & college educated, Osama's number 2 is a doctor, many of the 911 hijackers were college educated and middle class etc. etc.
Liberals aren't anti-Israel.  Are republicans anti-arab?

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Liberals scramble to make sure suspected terrorists get the same rights as American citizens.
Since Pres. Bush made torture a usual practice of the USA, I would think it might concern you that innocent people might be getting tortured without at least a trial.

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The same liberal wackjobs in California for the 9th circuit court of appeals that handed down a decision taking God out of the pledge of allegance, approved "Muslim Week" in a public school where children were forced to learn muslim prayers, dress in Muslim garb and give up sweets for Ramadan- Eklund v. Byron Union School District
Right wingers added "god" to the  pledge so why not take 'god' out of the pledge?  Or will god be angry?


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The reason why liberals are labeled muslim apologists is two fold: (1) Most liberals despise the Judeo-Christian traditions of this country 
So you polled liberals and came up with another baseless hate allegation?

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(2) Most liberals have an irrational and blinding hatred of the Bush administration to the point where they take the emotional rather than logical view- An enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Bite my tongue, this 'blind hatred' is the cornerstone of your analysis.  There are many objects for hatred of Bush including:  the killing of btn 100,000 & 650,000 people, lying america to war, bungling the budget, bungling Katrina, bungling Medicare, bungling Soc. Sec., and on and on.

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-- This is paradoxical and remarkable because if the Muslims had their way, they would convert us or kill us all as the Koran commands
.You mean like invading a country to change it's government to one of our choosing....like Iraq?

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2008, 12:20:57 PM »
I liked that movie :)  Anyway, hope you enjoyed Bush and Blair really talking up what a peaceful religion Islam is.  I for one have never thought such a thing which at the heart of why I made this post.  I've not understood why I have been expected to defend it lol...

I didn't watch the video. I don't watch youtube videos unless they involve crazy shenanigans and clowns throwing pies at people's faces!

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2008, 12:21:37 PM »
Thanks for the welcome, but im not a Neocon at all. I dont think we should have invaded Iraq and I am not one of these homophobic overly religious types. However, now that we have invaded it is imperative we stay until a new government is in place and the Iraqi's can defend themselves for obvious reasons I feel would be a waste of words to actually type, but I think you can figure it out. I mainly am a libertarian.

Look, all you need to know about why American liberals are Muslim apologists is the insane belief that 911 was an inside job... Which is funny because most Muslims regardless of education in Europe and the middle east also feel the same way.

Liberalism in Europe is equivalent to the Village in NYC or the city of San Francisco or pretty much any liberal arts college in America. So, when you say the two aren't on the same level, I would ask what you define what the same level as?


The left thinking the right is psychotic demonstrates to me the right is doing something right  ;)

PS- Bush got re-elected, thats all you need to know about the American peoples opinon of the left [ wait wait , i know, voter fraud right? lolol]

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2008, 12:22:00 PM »
I didn't watch the video. I don't watch youtube videos unless they involve crazy shenanigans and clowns throwing pies at people's faces!
Watch the fucking video coward >:(  This is priceless, you want to have your point, but not read what I write or review material I present to defend against your statement.  Fantastic...

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2008, 12:23:08 PM »
Thanks for the welcome, but im not a Neocon at all. I dont think we should have invaded Iraq and I am not one of these homophobic overly religious types. However, now that we have invaded it is imperative we stay until a new government is in place and the Iraqi's can defend themselves for obvious reasons I feel would be a waste of words to actually type, but I think you can figure it out. I mainly am a libertarian.

Look, all you need to know about why American liberals are Muslim apologists is the insane belief that 911 was an inside job... Which is funny because most Muslims regardless of education in Europe and the middle east also feel the same way.

Liberalism in Europe is equivalent to the Village in NYC or the city of San Francisco or pretty much any liberal arts college in America. So, when you say the two aren't on the same level, I would ask what you define what the same level as?


The left thinking the right is psychotic demonstrates to me the right is doing something right  ;)

PS- Bush got re-elected, thats all you need to know about the American peoples opinon of the left [ wait wait , i know, voter fraud right? lolol]


According to the "liberals," EVERYTHING on this board is a conspiracy theory.

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2008, 12:24:14 PM »
According to the "liberals," EVERYTHING on this board is a conspiracy theory.
Everything ::) yea...

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2008, 12:29:22 PM »

hahahahaha.... man, I bet this just hurts ;D  Bush and Blair and not a marching group of hippies ;)

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2008, 12:36:33 PM »
Why it would hurt? I'm not going to bother watching it because I couldn't care less as to what George Bush or his retard lackey Blair have to say. Why are you pushing something he said? I thought George Bush was a douche and everything he's done is a conspiracy theory?

Remember Hugo, EVERYTHING to you is a conspiracy theory.





I put my left sock on before my right this morning. CONSPIRACY THEORY. Death to Israel. Viva Islam. Heil Hitler!!!!! Gitmo detainee #3983 will be tortured today instead of #98379837!

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #41 on: July 24, 2008, 12:40:41 PM »
Hugo I told you, Bliar is a liberal socialist labourite.

He has the typical political make-up of what every hippy grows up believing.
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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #42 on: July 24, 2008, 12:41:16 PM »
Why it would hurt? I'm not going to bother watching it because I couldn't care less as to what George Bush or his retard lackey Blair have to say. Why are you pushing something he said? I thought George Bush was a douche and everything he's done is a conspiracy theory?

Remember Hugo, EVERYTHING to you is a conspiracy theory.





I put my left sock on before my right this morning. CONSPIRACY THEORY. Death to Israel. Viva Islam. Heil Hitler!!!!! Gitmo detainee #3983 will be tortured today instead of #98379837!
Oh brother, you really don't get it ::)  Why care?  Why constantly toss the religion of peace thing at me when i don't even believe it is and infact two guys I hate, Bush and Blair were the main voices of that... but lets just blame liberals for it ::) 

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #43 on: July 24, 2008, 12:44:31 PM »
Oh brother, you really don't get it ::)  Why care?  Why constantly toss the religion of peace thing at me when i don't even believe it is and infact two guys I hate, Bush and Blair were the main voices of that... but lets just blame liberals for it ::) 

What aren't you getting?

You previously said you didn't mention Blair as to mean he was a conservative ???

Blair IS A LIBERAL.

FACT: Liberal socialism allowed the floodgates to be opened up in the EU for massive muslim immigration.
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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #44 on: July 24, 2008, 12:45:50 PM »
Yeah, Austria, Italy, Spain, Poland, Portugal, Turkey, Bosnia, Romania, Slovakia....it's just a socialist party year 'round.==> Do you know anything about EU politics? Spain has a a very left wing socialist leaning head of state, Romania and Slovakia ( which are almost irrelevant to any conversation about anything involving world issues that matter) are also secular countries. Turkey was a very secular country until recently where the secular majority in government has now turned to about 50/50 for Islamists. Austria is secular as can be. Italy is somewhat more religious than the rest, but not by much.

I'm not sure what to make of this mishmash of innuendo.  I guess left-leaning mayors are gay and that left leaning douchebags are more worried about discrimination rather than the imminent threat of Islamic followers.
It's a religion.==> What mishmash of innuendo? Its a listing of terrorist attacks and islam motivated acts of violence coupled with the response that was given by leaders in Europe. I never said left leaning mayors are gay, I said the former mayor of Paris WAS gay and WAS stabbed nearly to death in 2002 by a Muslim because he WAS gay.

"The English translation is not as eloquent as the original Arabic, but let me quote from the Koran, itself: "In the long run, evil in the extreme will be the end of those who do evil. For that they rejected the signs of Allah and held them up to ridicule." The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war."  --GW Bush

Are you inferring that Bush is a liberal apologist b/c he caved on such a politically correct topic? No, I am not inferring anything. I am saying Bush said what he had to say because he didnt want to be percieved as demonizing an entire faith. How is that being a liberal apologist? Its called being a politician.


Liberals aren't anti-Israel.  Are republicans anti-arab? ==> Ok, you clearly are not familiar with your history. Since the Israeli/ Palastine conflict began, the most vehemant supporters for the PLO outside of Muslims themselves have been the American and European left. If you support a group that wants to exterminate another group, push the other group into the sea and kill the other groups men, women and children, wouldn't you say your support is by proxy an ANTI position against that group? England had the territory ( there is no such thing as palastine), Israel founded the country,  Israel went to war, won, and now year after year gives a little bit back while innocent Israeli's are maimed in the streets. No, I'd say Republicans are anti terrorism, not anti arab.


Since Pres. Bush made torture a usual practice of the USA, I would think it might concern you that innocent people might be getting tortured without at least a trial.=> A usual practice how? Please explain. Aliens "might" be monitoring this posting also. Let me get this straight, the Government should convict someone of crimes first, then torture them? You really are an idiot.


Right wingers added "god" to the  pledge so why not take 'god' out of the pledge?  Or will god be angry?==> WOW you clearly know nothing about American history. Im beginning to think I wasted my time arguing with someone of subpar intelligence. What right winger added God to the pledge a few hundred year ago?

 So you polled liberals and came up with another baseless hate allegation?
 Bite my tongue, this 'blind hatred' is the cornerstone of your analysis.  There are many objects for hatred of Bush including:  the killing of btn 100,000 & 650,000 people, lying america to war, bungling the budget, bungling Katrina, bungling Medicare, bungling Soc. Sec., and on and on.
.You mean like invading a country to change it's government to one of our choosing....like Iraq?

I didn't poll anyone, if you'd like I will give you precise facts, figures, court cases, links to news articles, etc. Your analysis is completely useless based on your last point. So, in your view, the Bush administration bungled Katrina, social security and Medicare- A natural disaster where inhabitants were given round the clock warnings for three days to evacuate and decided to stay ( My great uncle who was 86 years old and his wife managed to escape unharmed by the way) and two forms of government benefits that have existed for more than half a century? lololol Very astute points.  Even  if you claim the hatred isn't blind and there are reasons for hating him, how does that counteract the fact that the left hates Bush and everything he does whether right or wrong and wants to see America fail in Iraq?

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #45 on: July 24, 2008, 12:47:12 PM »
Hugo I told you, Bliar is a liberal socialist labourite.

He has the typical political make-up of what every hippy grows up believing.
That's your fucking opinion... The liberals in America have no love for that guy after what he did.  Bush also said it, is he what you guys call a liberal socialist labourite?  When Blair said that, was he not being a lacky for the neocons?  hahaha, even you guys over there were pissed like hell over it.  So in regards to this matter.... ;)  It was not a liberal voice saying this shit.  It was Bush and Blair so I don't see why I get the blame for it.  You fuckers always call me on this shit and I don't even believe it nor have I ever believed it's a religion of peace.

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #46 on: July 24, 2008, 12:49:59 PM »
What aren't you getting?

You previously said you didn't mention Blair as to mean he was a conservative ???

Blair IS A LIBERAL.

FACT: Liberal socialism allowed the floodgates to be opened up in the EU for massive muslim immigration.
quit putting words in my mouth... I said I didn't address it and I didn't.  Again, Bush said it too.  He infact stood on a stage with a bunch of muslims and said it first post 9/11 and then it was said several times and Blair signed on to support Bush and he was hated by the liberals for doing it.  THAT'S A FUCKING FACT.

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #47 on: July 24, 2008, 12:52:05 PM »
That's your fucking opinion... The liberals in America have no love for that guy after what he did.  Bush also said it, is he what you guys call a liberal socialist labourite?  When Blair said that, was he not being a lacky for the neocons?  hahaha, even you guys over there were pissed like hell over it.  So in regards to this matter.... ;)  It was not a liberal voice saying this shit.  It was Bush and Blair so I don't see why I get the blame for it.  You fuckers always call me on this shit and I don't even believe it nor have I ever believed it's a religion of peace.

Wait, so Bush isn't a conservative, it's just your opinion that he's a conservative?

FACT: Blair is a liberal.

I'm not blaming you for jack shit :-\

My quarrel is with EU liberal socialism.

You're playing victim hood pretty well mate, like a true muslim!
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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #48 on: July 24, 2008, 12:53:03 PM »
You guys are just pissed because if you see the facts here, as conservatives have also seen, you'll be forced to see the true bad guys in these years have been the neocons, not liberals.

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Re: You know this "religion of peace" thing...
« Reply #49 on: July 24, 2008, 12:55:26 PM »
Wait, so Bush isn't a conservative, it's just your opinion that he's a conservative?

FACT: Blair is a liberal.

I'm not blaming you for jack shit :-\

My quarrel is with EU liberal socialism.

You're playing victim hood pretty well mate, like a true muslim!
I guess I have to keep repeating myself until you stop saying I said something I didn't say.  Bush is a neocon.  Bush is not a conservative.

Here, please read this slowly until it sinks into your thick fucking skull:
Blair signed on to support Bush and he was hated by the liberals for doing it.   THAT'S A FUCKING FACT.