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Drinking Milk After Exercise Encourages Muscle Gain And Fat Loss, Study Finds



Part of an ongoing study into the impact of drinking milk after heavy weightlifting has found that milk helps exercisers burn more fat.

The study by researchers at McMaster University and published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, was conducted by the Department of Kinesiology's Exercise Metabolism Research Group, lead by Stuart Phillips.

The researchers took three groups of young men 18 to 30 years of age -- 56 in total -- and put them through a rigorous, five-day-per-week weightlifting program over a 12-week period. Following their workouts, study participants drank either two cups of skim milk, a soy beverage with equivalent amounts of protein and energy, or a carbohydrate beverage with an equivalent amount of energy, which was roughly the same as drinking 600 to 700 milliliters of a typical sports drink.

Upon the study's conclusion, researchers found that the milk drinking group had lost nearly twice as much fat - two pounds - while the carbohydrate beverage group lost one pound of fat. Those drinking soy lost no fat. At the same time, the gain in muscle was much greater among the milk drinkers than either the soy or carbohydrate beverage study participants.

"The loss of fat mass, while expected, was much larger than we thought it would be," says Phillips, associate professor of kinesiology at McMaster. "I think the practical implications of these results are obvious: if you want to gain muscle and lose fat as a result of working out, drink milk."

As reported in the first phase of the study, the milk drinking group came out on top in terms of muscle gain with an estimated 40 per cent or 2.5 pounds more muscle mass than the soy beverage drinkers. In addition, this group gained 63 per cent or 3.3 pounds, more muscle mass than the carbohydrate beverage drinkers.

"I think the evidence is beginning to mount," says Phillips. "Milk may be best known for its calcium content in supporting bone health, but our research, and that of others, continually supports milk's ability to aid in muscle growth and also promote body fat loss. To my mind -- with milk being a source of nine essential nutrients -- it's a no brainer: milk is the ideal post-workout drink for recreational exercisers and athletes alike."

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so pretty much a glass of milk as post workout is sufficient..

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so pretty much a glass of milk as post workout is sufficient..
Indeed. I like Whole Milk.

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Indeed. I like Whole Milk.

It does specify skimmed milk though.  Unless you need the extra calories from the fat, why have whole milk?
It hasn't helped...

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Oh brother.  Be prepared to get ripped on by all the Pumping Iron idiots who will scream Arnold said milk was for babies. ::)
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It does specify skimmed milk though.  Unless you need the extra calories from the fat, why have whole milk?

I don't think TA has actually READ that, he only saw the first line.

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For a while I used to drink two pints of milk post workout, I did notice improved results.  It was fresh skimmed milk though, I hate the UHT carton stuff.
It hasn't helped...

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Link: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/79235.php

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Ongoing work with this project will focus on the components of milk that might be responsible for the effects observed by the McMaster-based researchers. The work was supported by grants from the Canadian Institutes for Health Research and a grant from the US National Dairy Council.
Proper science should be independent, as is often the case, it is not. No credibility to this study.

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Link: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/79235.php
Proper science should be independent, as is often the case, it is not. No credibility to this study.

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Good find!!

Thanks a lot. Most people do not realize this, it's the same with 100% of "scientifical" studies for some supplements.

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Link: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/79235.php
Proper science should be independent, as is often the case, it is not. No credibility to this study.

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That in no way dismisses their findings and research.  Had the conclusion gone the other way it would have been duly reported.

Of course the dairy council would give a grant for such a study. Certainly that does not make the research invalid.  If the American Cancer Society gave a grant to study a Cancer fighting agent, would it then cease to be valid because the American Cancer Society helped fund a public project?

Raw Milk is the most superior.

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Link: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/79235.php
Proper science should be independent, as is often the case, it is not. No credibility to this study.

Class dismissed!
Why did you fail to highlight the Canadian Institute of Health?

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Its not uncommon for vested interests to fund peer-reviewed research. For the most part, it has no bearings on the results and conclusions of a study.

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Its not uncommon for vested interests to fund peer-reviewed research. For the most part, it has no bearings on the results and conclusions of a study.
Exactly.

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Yes everyone should drink lots of milk! 

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The sample study only has 56 people way too small to account for the possible variables.  The fact that this one study or several simalar studies funded by milk companies resulted in a favorable outcome should not persuade you to think its results are not valid.  The question is how many studies are shelved or garbaged without seeing the light of day if the result is negative?  And your right whoever said the cancer society has a vested interest in their studies, its to cure millions of people of cancer not sell a product that many studies have also proven to have negative effects.

With that said cereal without milk should be a punishable offence.

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Chocolate Milk May Improve Recovery After Exercise 

News Author: Laurie Barclay, MD
CME Author: Désirée Lie, MD, MSEd


Feb. 27, 2006 — Chocolate milk is an effective postexercise drink that improves recovery, according to the results of a small, randomized trial reported in the February issue of the International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism.

"Our study indicates that chocolate milk is a strong alternative to other commercial sports drinks in helping athletes recover from strenuous, energy-depleting exercise," coauthor Joel M. Stager, PhD, from Indiana University in Bloomington, said in a news release. "Chocolate milk contains an optimal carbohydrate to protein ratio, which is critical for helping refuel tired muscles after strenuous exercise and can enable athletes to exercise at a high intensity during subsequent workouts."

On 3 separate days, 9 male, endurance-trained cyclists performed an interval workout followed by 4 hours of recovery, and a subsequent endurance trial to exhaustion at 70% maximum oxygen consumption (VO2max). In a single-blind, randomized design, the men drank equivalent volumes of chocolate milk, fluid replacement drink (FR), or carbohydrate replacement drink (CR) immediately after the first exercise bout and 2 hours of recovery. The chocolate milk and CR had equivalent carbohydrate content. Primary endpoints were time to exhaustion, average heart rate, rating of perceived exertion, and total work for the endurance exercise.

Time to exhaustion and total work were significantly greater for chocolate milk and for FR trials than for CR trials, suggesting that chocolate milk is an effective recovery aid between 2 exhausting exercise bouts.

Study limitations include the possibility that the 4-hour recovery period limited the complete digestion of the complex carbohydrates contained in CR.

"The results of this study suggest that chocolate milk, with its high carbohydrate and protein content, may be considered an effective alternative to commercial FR and CR for recovery from exhausting, glycogen-depleting exercise," the authors write.

The Dairy and Nutrition Council, Inc, supported this study in part.

Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2006;16:78-91
Clinical Context

According to the authors, the amount of stored glycogen in skeletal muscles influences exercise performance, and delaying carbohydrate ingestion for 2 hours after a workout can reduce the rate of glycogen resynthesis by half. Studies noted by the authors have suggested that 50 to 75 g of carbohydrate be ingested within 30 to 45 minutes after exercise, with ingestion of 1.2 to 1.5 g carbohydrate per kilogram of body weight per hour for the next few hours. Protein ingestion also has been shown to hasten the rate of glycogen synthesis. CR and FR, which replenish fluid and electrolytes lost during exercise but contain less carbohydrates, are 2 types of postexercise drinks that have been formulated to address glycogen synthesis and carbohydrate replacement.

The current trial is a single-blind, randomized, crossover experimental study using endurance athletes as their own controls to compare the effect of 3 types of drinks: chocolate milk, FR, and CR with the equivalent carbohydrate content of chocolate milk, on performance as measured by time to exhaustion, average heart rate, rating of perceived exertion, and total work performed.
Study Highlights

    * 9 healthy, nonsmoking male endurance-trained cyclists aged 19 to 22 years with weight range of 68 to 82 kg from one university were recruited for the study.
    * Each subject participated in 4 testing sessions with each session separated by 1 week.
    * All subjects kept a dietary record for 3 days prior to the sessions and refrained from heavy exercise within 24 hours.
    * The first session consisted of an incremental exercise test on a cycle ergometer to determine VO2max and maximum power output at VO2max.
    * The remaining 3 sessions were conducted as a randomized crossover design and consisted of 2 bouts of cycling to exhaustion separated by 4 hours of recovery.
    * The first bout consisted of alternating periods of work and recovery in an interval format until glycogen depletion.
    * During the 4-hour recovery period, athletes were offered equal volumes of low fat chocolate milk (The Kroger Co) or FR (Gatorade) or CR (Endurox).
    * The carbohydrate content of chocolate milk and CR were similar.
    * Following the recovery period, the second exercise bout was performed at 70% VO2max until exhaustion to maintain their previous pedal cadence (85 - 100 rpm).
    * Cyclists were not allowed to stand on pedals while cycling.
    * Investigators were blinded to allocation of fluids, which were in opaque bottles.
    * Blood samples from fingertips were taken for lactate levels prior to and on completion of each exercise trial and at 2 hours into the recovery period.
    * Subjects were permitted to freely drink water, but no other food was allowed during the recovery period.
    * Both time to exhaustion and total work performed during the endurance performance ride were significantly greater (P < .05) in the chocolate milk and FR trials vs the CR trial.
    * Subjects cycled 49% and 54% longer following chocolate milk and FR ingestion vs CR ingestion.
    * Total amount of work performed was 57% and 48% greater for chocolate milk and FR ingestion vs the CR ingestion.
    * No significant differences occurred in any other variables, including heart rate, rating of perceived exertion during the endurance performance trials, and postexercise lactate levels.
    * Body mass index and total body water did not differ between treatments.
    * Total amount of water consumed was similar for the 3 groups.
    * No significant differences occurred in macronutrient content of diets for the athletes before the trial.

Pearls for Practice

    * Low-fat chocolate milk and FR ingestion as recovery fluids are associated with greater endurance in terms of time to exhaustion vs a CR for cycling in male endurance athletes.
    * Chocolate milk and FR ingestion as recovery fluids are associated with greater work performed at 70% VO2max in male endurance cyclists.


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That in no way dismisses their findings and research.  Had the conclusion gone the other way it would have been duly reported.

Of course the dairy council would give a grant for such a study. Certainly that does not make the research invalid.  If the American Cancer Society gave a grant to study a Cancer fighting agent, would it then cease to be valid because the American Cancer Society helped fund a public project?

Raw Milk is the most superior.

Completely wrong analogy, the dairy council is a very strong lobby which has one and one objective only: to enhance the public image of dairy (to increase dairy sales).
The cancer institute has no commercial interest, other than to sustain itself.

Just because this 'sponsorship' is common these days doesn't justify it. The impartiality of the university is rightfully questioned, regardless of their track record.


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It would also be more beneficial to consume Milk BEFORE workout(PRE) Rather than After(Post)


 Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab 281: E197-E206, 2001;
0193-1849/01
Timing of amino acid-carbohydrate ingestion alters anabolic response of muscle to resistance exercise
Kevin D. Tipton1,2, Blake B. Rasmussen1,2, Sharon L. Miller1,2, Steven E. Wolf1, Sharla K. Owens-Stovall1, Bart E. Petrini1, and Robert R. Wolfe1,2

1 Department of Surgery, University of Texas Medical Branch, and 2 Metabolism Unit, Shriners Hospitals for Children, Galveston, Texas 77550

The present study was designed to determine whether consumption of an oral essential amino acid-carbohydrate supplement (EAC) before exercise results in a greater anabolic response than supplementation after resistance exercise. Six healthy human subjects participated in two trials in random order, PRE (EAC consumed immediately before exercise), and POST (EAC consumed immediately after exercise). A primed, continuous infusion of L-[ring-2H5]phenylalanine, femoral arteriovenous catheterization, and muscle biopsies from the vastus lateralis were used to determine phenylalanine concentrations, enrichments, and net uptake across the leg. Blood and muscle phenylalanine concentrations were increased by ~130% after drink consumption in both trials. Amino acid delivery to the leg was increased during exercise and remained elevated for the 2 h after exercise in both trials. Delivery of amino acids (amino acid concentration times blood flow) was significantly greater in PRE than in POST during the exercise bout and in the 1st h after exercise (P < 0.05). Total net phenylalanine uptake across the leg was greater (P = 0.0002) during PRE (209 ± 42 mg) than during POST (81 ± 19). Phenylalanine disappearance rate, an indicator of muscle protein synthesis from blood amino acids, increased after EAC consumption in both trials. These results indicate that the response of net muscle protein synthesis to consumption of an EAC solution immediately before resistance exercise is greater than that when the solution is consumed after exercise, primarily because of an increase in muscle protein synthesis as a result of increased delivery of amino acids to the leg.

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It would also be more beneficial to consume Milk BEFORE workout(PRE) Rather than After(Post)


 Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab 281: E197-E206, 2001;
0193-1849/01
Timing of amino acid-carbohydrate ingestion alters anabolic response of muscle to resistance exercise
Kevin D. Tipton1,2, Blake B. Rasmussen1,2, Sharon L. Miller1,2, Steven E. Wolf1, Sharla K. Owens-Stovall1, Bart E. Petrini1, and Robert R. Wolfe1,2

1 Department of Surgery, University of Texas Medical Branch, and 2 Metabolism Unit, Shriners Hospitals for Children, Galveston, Texas 77550

The present study was designed to determine whether consumption of an oral essential amino acid-carbohydrate supplement (EAC) before exercise results in a greater anabolic response than supplementation after resistance exercise. Six healthy human subjects participated in two trials in random order, PRE (EAC consumed immediately before exercise), and POST (EAC consumed immediately after exercise). A primed, continuous infusion of L-[ring-2H5]phenylalanine, femoral arteriovenous catheterization, and muscle biopsies from the vastus lateralis were used to determine phenylalanine concentrations, enrichments, and net uptake across the leg. Blood and muscle phenylalanine concentrations were increased by ~130% after drink consumption in both trials. Amino acid delivery to the leg was increased during exercise and remained elevated for the 2 h after exercise in both trials. Delivery of amino acids (amino acid concentration times blood flow) was significantly greater in PRE than in POST during the exercise bout and in the 1st h after exercise (P < 0.05). Total net phenylalanine uptake across the leg was greater (P = 0.0002) during PRE (209 ± 42 mg) than during POST (81 ± 19). Phenylalanine disappearance rate, an indicator of muscle protein synthesis from blood amino acids, increased after EAC consumption in both trials. These results indicate that the response of net muscle protein synthesis to consumption of an EAC solution immediately before resistance exercise is greater than that when the solution is consumed after exercise, primarily because of an increase in muscle protein synthesis as a result of increased delivery of amino acids to the leg.

Welcome to the year 2008, dumbass.

supplying amino acids BEFORE workout helps muscle growth?

Who would have thought.

Adonis, you're as dumb as fuck.

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YEAH !

squats and milk that's what i say

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And if you like the PostWorkout shake it should matter not if you have it within 1 or 3 hours after your workout.  Do not feel pressured that the "Magical Anabolic Window" will close on you. 


 J Appl Physiol 88: 386-392, 2000;
8750-7587/00
Vol. 88, Issue 2, 386-392, February 2000
An oral essential amino acid-carbohydrate supplement enhances muscle protein anabolism after resistance exercise
Blake B. Rasmussen, Kevin D. Tipton, Sharon L. Miller, Steven E. Wolf, and Robert R. Wolfe

Department of Surgery, University of Texas Medical Branch and Metabolism Unit, Shriners Burns Institute, Galveston, Texas 77550

This study was designed to determine the response of muscle protein to the bolus ingestion of a drink containing essential amino acids and carbohydrate after resistance exercise. Six subjects (3 men, 3 women) randomly consumed a treatment drink (6 g essential amino acids, 35 g sucrose) or a flavored placebo drink 1 h or 3 h after a bout of resistance exercise on two separate occasions. We used a three-compartment model for determination of leg muscle protein kinetics. The model involves the infusion of ring-2H5-phenylalanine, femoral arterial and venous blood sampling, and muscle biopsies. Phenylalanine net balance and muscle protein synthesis were significantly increased above the predrink and corresponding placebo value (P < 0.05) when the drink was taken 1 or 3 h after exercise but not when the placebo was ingested at 1 or 3 h. The response to the amino acid-carbohydrate drink produced similar anabolic responses at 1 and 3 h. Muscle protein breakdown did not change in response to the drink. We conclude that essential amino acids with carbohydrates stimulate muscle protein anabolism by increasing muscle protein synthesis when ingested 1 or 3 h after resistance exercise.

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Welcome to the year 2008, dumbass.

supplying amino acids BEFORE workout helps muscle growth?

Who would have thought.

Adonis, you're as dumb as fuck.
I will sum this up in one simple equation.

I=>u

Variables:
I-The True Adonis
u-DonkeyKong


If you can prove otherwise, please do so.

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I will sum this up in one simple equation.

I=>u

Variables:
I-The True Adonis
u-DonkeyKong


If you can prove otherwise, please do so.

lol, you're even dumber than i thought.

You know nothing about nutrition, may i remind you of the "Adonis principles"...

You post about expensive whine and other stuff when it is clear that you know nothing about it.

You post as Jezzebelle to show people you have a "girlfriend" and open up several other gimmicks as "supporters"

basically, 90% of your post are copy&paste, but still then you didn't even read what you copied and pasted.

You're an idiot, and everyone knows this.

Hope this helps.

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so basically a study sponsored by the dairy institute states that drinking more milk is good for you...brilliant

is this similiar to when MattC reviews a product for bb.com and gains 10-15lbs of lean muscle mass every time?  ::)
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Donkeykong, you're negative. Can't you have an objective discussion w/o calling somebody stupid right off the bat?
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