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Obama beats McCain in Europe donations
« on: July 25, 2008, 06:23:06 AM »
Obama beats McCain in Europe donations

By GREGORY KATZ, Associated Press WriterFri Jul 25,2008
Barack Obama's campaign has received roughly 10 times more money from declared U.S. donors living in Germany, France and Britain than his Republican rival, reflecting his popularity in Europe as he makes his first tour of the continent as the presumed Democratic nominee.

Federal Election Commission reports show Obama has raised at least $1 million from donors who identify themselves as Americans living in Great Britain, Germany and France, while John McCain has taken in at least $150,000.

Some donors say the huge disparity, which also exists in overall funding raising in which Obama has raked in $338 million to $126.3 million for McCain, is more about disliking Bush and the prospect of another Republican succeeding him than it is an affection for Obama.

"I contributed because of the absolutely appalling performance of the Bush administration during the last eight years," said Eileen Taylor, a chief operating officer for Deutsche Bank in London.

She made two $2,300 donations, the maximum allowed, and is also working on a voter registration drive to make it easier for Americans abroad to cast ballots in the November election.

"We're actively signing people up to vote," she said. "Democrats Abroad is working with a lot of companies to set up voter registration and absentee ballots. The key message is that it's not about the money. A lot of people are putting emotional energy into this campaign."

Only U.S. citizens are permitted to contribute to presidential campaigns. The European totals include contributions of $200 or more from each individual as election laws do not require campaigns to itemize lesser amounts. So it's possible Obama has received additional money from smaller donors. McCain, however, publishes all contributions, even amounts smaller than $200.

While Bush is unpopular at home, hostility to the outgoing president appears to be much deeper among expatriate donors than the general population in the United States. Obama's many backers in Europe say they are motivated by a yearning for America to once again be viewed with respect by the rest of the world.

Gerald Wood, an American living in Germany, said he contributed $1,000 to Obama because he wants to see America's reputation restored after it "worsened" during the Bush years.

"For me Barack Obama is the one who can improve America's image," he said, comparing the youthful candidate to John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy. "I want more bipartisanship, to give the land a vision."

The amounts raised in Europe are not terribly significant in the costly White House race, but the disparity between the two candidates underscores the Democratic candidate's appeal on a continent where Obamamania seems to have taken hold of expatriates and Europeans alike.

It also may reflect the Obama campaign's adroit use of the Internet as a prime fundraising tool while the McCain camp was for a long time saddled with a Web site that made it difficult for Americans abroad to contribute.

Patricia Toner, a retired IBM employee who lives in southern France, said she gave a total of $2,000 to Obama's campaign after receiving a mass e-mail from a friend during the primary season that contained a link to the candidate's Web site.

"I'm a retired information technology professional and I found their Web site so well crafted," she said.

Mary Jo Jacobi, a Republican who was an adviser to President Reagan and the first President Bush, conceded that Obama had a big advantage over McCain in Internet campaigning.

"A lot of McCain backers were saying it was very hard or impossible to donate over the Web site," she said. "Obama made it easy. Obama has been much more sophisticated about Internet usage, and when you live overseas that's the easiest way to contribute."

She also acknowledged Obama's message of change had drawn a positive response among Americans abroad, pointing out that people who uproot themselves to work overseas are by nature receptive to change. An estimated quarter of a million Americans live in Britain alone.

In London, many of Obama's donors are members of London's high-flying financial and legal elite, and also include information technology executives, architects and a celebrity restaurateur.

It has become fashionable to support him ever since Elisabeth Murdoch, the daughter of newspaper mogul Rupert Murdoch, hosted a high profile fundraiser for Obama in April.

The occupations listed on the FEC reports are impressive: lawyers, corporate vice presidents and chief executives are common.

The Obama list includes corporate luminaries like Joanna Shields, the chief executive officer of the popular Bebo social networking site; Ruth Rogers, co-founder of the exclusive River Cafe and wife of celebrated architect Richard Rogers; David Giampaolo, chief executive officer of the private equity investment company Pi Capital; John Graham, a director of the investment firm Rogge Global Partners; and Cheryl Solomon, general counsel for The Gucci Group.

Each donor is permitted to give a maximum of $2,300 for each election, but since the primaries are regarded as a separate election, a person can make two separate donations of $2,300 before the general election in November. While some gave the maximum, others made contributions in the $10 and $25 range.

McCain also enjoyed support from a number of investment bankers and international banking executives, but he received donations from only 63 individuals in Britain while Obama has about 600 donors.

McCain did receive money from Charles Thompson, with Saudi Petroleum Overseas, and Tom Fenton, a former CBS News correspondent who has long been a fixture on the London journalistic scene.

Thompson refused to discuss his contribution. Fenton, an independent, paid $1,000 to attend a McCain lunch in London so he could sit with the candidate and judge him up close. He said he may also contribute to the Obama campaign as well.

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Associated Press Writers Matt Moore in Berlin, Elaine Ganley and Gaelle Faure in Paris, Emily Ristow in London, and Sharon Theimer, and Troy Thibodeaux in Washington contributed to this report.
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Re: Obama beats McCain in Europe donations
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2008, 06:35:42 AM »
Sometimes we forget about all the Americans living abroad who can still vote.

They don't show up in domestic polls.  But they do show up in dollars, and in mailed votes.

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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2008, 06:40:44 AM »
Sometimes we forget about all the Americans living abroad who can still vote.

They don't show up in domestic polls.  But they do show up in dollars, and in mailed votes.
That was pretty funny listening to the righties say how that crowd doesn't matter.  I thought, well on the simplest level, they must have no idea how many Americans are in Germany who CAN and DO vote.

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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2008, 07:00:25 AM »
That was pretty funny listening to the righties say how that crowd doesn't matter.  I thought, well on the simplest level, they must have no idea how many Americans are in Germany who CAN and DO vote.

Yep.  Not only that, but many of them call home and talk to relatives too, influencing their decisions.  None of that is measured in polls.

it was cute to see Mccain talking to 12 people at a German fudge house (not lying!) yesterday.  He bought some cream puffs and shook a few hands.  obama, on the other hand, went to Germany and effectively recreuited ten thousand new German soldiers to come to Afghanistan to let two brigades of Americans come home to be with their families.

I bet that was some good cream puffs though, huh?

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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2008, 07:07:43 AM »
Yep.  Not only that, but many of them call home and talk to relatives too, influencing their decisions.  None of that is measured in polls.

it was cute to see Mccain talking to 12 people at a German fudge house (not lying!) yesterday.  He bought some cream puffs and shook a few hands.  obama, on the other hand, went to Germany and effectively recreuited ten thousand new German soldiers to come to Afghanistan to let two brigades of Americans come home to be with their families.

I bet that was some good cream puffs though, huh?
I saw that lol... Does not look good for McCain.

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Re: Obama beats McCain in Europe donations
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2008, 08:19:09 AM »

Federal Election Commission reports show Obama has raised at least $1 million from donors who identify themselves as Americans living in Great Britain, Germany and France, while John McCain has taken in at least $150,000.


Stop the presses.   ::)

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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2008, 08:21:21 AM »
Stop the presses.   ::)
It's not worth mentioning or you're saying just a given so not worth mentioning?

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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2008, 08:25:30 AM »
It's not worth mentioning or you're saying just a given so not worth mentioning?

It's a million dollars in contributions for Obama and $150,000 for McCain.  That won't even pay for Obama's campaign trip to Europe or McCain's six month supply of Depends.  We need a yawn icon.   :)

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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2008, 08:28:32 AM »
It's a million dollars in contributions for Obama and $150,000 for McCain.  That won't even pay for Obama's campaign trip to Europe or McCain's six month supply of Depends.  We need a yawn icon.   :)
Obama leads in Europe expat donations by 10 to 1 over McCain and it doesn't matter? Sounds like like a major enthusiasm gap for McBush to me.  ;)
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2008, 08:30:07 AM »
Obama leads in Europe expat donations by 10 to 1 over McCain and it doesn't matter? Sounds like like a major enthusiasm gap for McBush to me.  ;)

No, it doesn't matter.

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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2008, 08:32:17 AM »
No, it doesn't matter.
Your excitement for a McBush presidency is clearly evident in your posts!  ::)
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2008, 08:32:25 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2008, 08:33:39 AM »
Your excitement for a McBush presidency is clearly evident in your posts!  ::)

 ::)  I'm not excited about either one, but I definitely will not be voting for the quasi-socialist. 

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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2008, 08:36:08 AM »
why ???

Because it's peanuts.  It's not going to make a significant difference in Obama's campaign.  The number of voters (assuming all of these donors vote) probably are not enough to affect any state race.  This is as relevant as Ron Paul leading in military donations. 

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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2008, 08:37:56 AM »
A million bucks is peanuts?

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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2008, 08:39:30 AM »
A million bucks is peanuts?

In this context, yes. 

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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2008, 08:41:40 AM »
Because it's peanuts.  It's not going to make a significant difference in Obama's campaign.  The number of voters (assuming all of these donors vote) probably are not enough to affect any state race.  This is as relevant as Ron Paul leading in military donations. 
Don't you remember the election of 2000?  The one Bush stole?  That was decieded by the Supreme Court (wrongly) and a couple of hundred votes.  Every single advantage in this presidential race (the Ron Paul comparison is not valid) can mean the difference btn winning and losing the presidency.

Unless McCain cheats like Bush did.  But I don't want to open old wounds.

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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2008, 08:51:40 AM »
Don't you remember the election of 2000?  The one Bush stole?  That was decieded by the Supreme Court (wrongly) and a couple of hundred votes.  Every single advantage in this presidential race (the Ron Paul comparison is not valid) can mean the difference btn winning and losing the presidency.

Unless McCain cheats like Bush did.  But I don't want to open old wounds.

lol.  Yes I remember the 2000 election when Gore lost his home state, which caused him to lose the election.  Get over it dude. 

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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2008, 08:57:46 AM »
lol.  Yes I remember the 2000 election when Gore lost his home state, which caused him to lose the election.  Get over it dude. 
Bush lost the election, sorry--absolute fact.  Oh and Gore wasn't running for governor of his state.

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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2008, 08:58:07 AM »
A million bucks is peanuts?

In this context, yes. 

Mccain will have less than $85 million TOTAL to spend this year in the election advertising prrocess.  Obama will have roughly 4 times that. (and that's a conservative estimate).

$1m dropped into a close state like New Mexico means mccain either has to pull $1mil from Colorado or FL to spend there, or risk losing a state bush only won by a hair that mccain is losing in at the moment.

Every $1m in this election matter to Mccain.  not to obama.  He's going to throw so much $ at mccain.  he's attacking the basket nonstop, and mccain will be on his heels til november trying to play defense

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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2008, 09:24:34 AM »
::)  I'm not excited about either one, but I definitely will not be voting for the quasi-socialist. 
By your definition, half of the federal government is "quasi-socialist".  ::)

You have a preference for "quasi-fascism"?
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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2008, 10:19:22 AM »
Bush lost the election, sorry--absolute fact.  Oh and Gore wasn't running for governor of his state.

You guys crack me up. 

Gore needed the electoral votes from his home state to win the presidency. 

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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2008, 10:20:17 AM »
By your definition, half of the federal government is "quasi-socialist".  ::)

You have a preference for "quasi-fascism"?

I don't know about half the federal government being quasi-socialist, but I do know Obama fits the bill. 

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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2008, 10:23:40 AM »
I don't know about half the federal government being quasi-socialist, but I do know Obama fits the bill. 
How are Obama's stances outside of the democratic party mainstream?
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« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2008, 10:24:12 AM »
You guys crack me up. 

Gore needed the electoral votes from his home state to win the presidency. 
so you're saying if he won Florida he didn't win?  I don't think that's true.  I think it was that if he had won his state, florida wouldn't have mattered.  big difference, you say he needed it to win the presidency, that's not a true statement.  He needed Florida not to be stole by Bushies.  In fact we all did.