Author Topic: need advice on stack (Read 5773 times)

4thAD · « **Reply #25 on:** July 28, 2008, 08:02:32 PM »

Quote from: Onetimehard on July 28, 2008, 07:50:25 PM

No it wouldn't give him better results, his body isn't ready to reap the benefits of over 1000 mg of test at this point. Furthemore by taking EQ he will see far less side effects since EQ is a lot milder then just test, less water retention, hence leaner muscle growth then just test alone, joint support and strength will also be an advantage. The conversion to estrogen is about half of what the test will produce. Its a vary nice stack, vary under rated, why you would say such a thing is beyond me, for someone with experience this is a no brainer.

He has no experience. Thats the point I'm trying to make to him with all his advice BS. He came on here(hardcore boards) ready and willing to learn and listen. Then suddenly he has morphed into this steroid guru. I like candi, but he takes criticism very badly, and retaliates in full force with name calling and personal threats. That is uncalled for on this board. Most boards would have shown him the front door a long time ago. He's lucky GB's policies are lenient.

candidizzle · « **Reply #26 on:** July 28, 2008, 08:04:58 PM »

you think im a steroid guru ?

lol

i understand most guys just say "ummm yeah this is what always works for me, try that"... but somebody who addresses questions with references to physiological actions of AAS,,, doesnt necessarily make them a guru

although im flatered that you think so

gracias por de compliment

4thAD · « **Reply #27 on:** July 28, 2008, 08:24:29 PM »

Quote from: candidizzle on July 28, 2008, 08:04:58 PM

you think im a steroid guru ?

lol

i understand most guys just say "ummm yeah this is what always works for me, try that"... but somebody who addresses questions with references to physiological actions of AAS,,, doesnt necessarily make them a guru

although im flatered that you think so

gracias por de compliment

Actually you have taken this out of context young dizzle. You think your the steroid guru, I don't really think so at all. Funny how you all of the sudden want to go to war with me also, just because I disagree with what you say. Look listen and learn, it will do you good.

candidizzle · « **Reply #28 on:** July 28, 2008, 08:29:10 PM »

lol...okay... and now i "want to go to war"... and i think im a guru...

OTHstrong · « **Reply #29 on:** July 28, 2008, 09:04:39 PM »

Quote from: candidizzle on July 28, 2008, 08:29:10 PM

lol...okay... and now i "want to go to war"... and i think im a guru...

I don't think you give bad advise, actually a lot of it is good. I do think that some stuff you say sounds like research instead of actual experience and some research backed up by professionals and university scholers and even doctors is wrong, we are the ones in the trenches and I am the one thats almost dies getting down to 2% bodyfat for my shows, so because I was once 140 pounder in high school and now I have 20 inch arms this gives me the right to tell people how to travel down that journey with the proper tools and taking proper short cuts. This is my route not some guy typing on the computer, however you are intelligent and you learn fast but you need time to observe your own knowledge before you get a head of yourself. Me and you get along and you and the others don't, the best thing to do is to keep the conversation civilized and don't get mad at what some of these guys say to you. They may be a little insulted because they have been around along time and sometimes you sound a little arrogant, just my opinion.

And everybody else... man you guys got to stop messing with the guy.

candidizzle · « **Reply #30 on:** July 28, 2008, 09:07:22 PM »

i could go on and on about what ive experimented with and what my results have been. but then i would get bombarded with nonsense and threads on the g&o calling me out on my "claimss"...instead i phrase everything and say everything from a scientific viewpoint..

4thAD · « **Reply #31 on:** July 28, 2008, 10:13:41 PM »

Quote from: Onetimehard on July 28, 2008, 09:04:39 PM

I don't think you give bad advise, actually a lot of it is good. I do think that some stuff you say sounds like research instead of actual experience and some research backed up by professionals and university scholers and even doctors is wrong, we are the ones in the trenches and I am the one thats almost dies getting down to 2% bodyfat for my shows, so because I was once 140 pounder in high school and now I have 20 inch arms this gives me the right to tell people how to travel down that journey with the proper tools and taking proper short cuts. This is my route not some guy typing on the computer, however you are intelligent and you learn fast but you need time to observe your own knowledge before you get a head of yourself. Me and you get along and you and the others don't, the best thing to do is to keep the conversation civilized and don't get mad at what some of these guys say to you. They may be a little insulted because they have been around along time and sometimes you sound a little arrogant, just my opinion.

And everybody else... man you guys got to stop messing with the guy.

Hey bro I was one of dizzles biggest supporters on this board until I couldn't take it anymore. We also used to get along. He is disrespectful to the mods and members here and also has probably never run a PCT yet. I got to the point where I just lost my patience with him, and he takes things way over board. He is arrogant and has given out possibly dangerous advice in the past. Hang around a while and really to him talk like he has walked this road many times before. He recommends high dose test for newbs, with out even knowing their cycle experience. I actually like dizzle as a person, he just needs to tone it down a knotch or two!

WillGrant · « **Reply #32 on:** July 28, 2008, 10:20:28 PM »

Quote from: candidizzle on July 27, 2008, 09:40:54 PM

i wasn't critiquing you. just discussing the topic at hand is all.

You are not in the position to "critique" stupid

candidizzle · « **Reply #33 on:** July 29, 2008, 09:31:34 AM »

Quote from: 4thAD on July 28, 2008, 10:13:41 PM

Hey bro I was one of dizzles biggest supporters on this board until I couldn't take it anymore. We also used to get along. He is disrespectful to the mods and members here and also has probably never run a PCT yet. I got to the point where I just lost my patience with him, and he takes things way over board. He is arrogant and has given out possibly dangerous advice in the past. Hang around a while and really to him talk like he has walked this road many times before. He recommends high dose test for newbs, with out even knowing their cycle experience. I actually like dizzle as a person, he just needs to tone it down a knotch or two!

your making shit up. when has my advice been dangerous, and when have i advised high dose test to a newB ?

pathetic, 4th.

freakfestMD · « **Reply #34 on:** July 29, 2008, 02:59:33 PM »

Wow. Now I remember why I stopped posting here. Anyway, back on topic if that's OK:

Quote from: rockedupmotha on July 28, 2008, 01:10:39 AM

should have about 15 cc's of all three. i'm about 5'8" -190lbs at about 12% body comp

Giving cc's is completely, absolutely meaningless without the concentrations.

Also, your past cycle experience is important for us to know. Remember, any dipshit can take steroids, and any dipshit can write out a cycle for you, but it does depend on what you have done before. How old are you? How long do you want to stay on? What are your goals? What training problems are you having or what deficiencies in your physique are you trying to overcome?

My present cycle includes test e (Galenika) at 1000mg per week x 24 weeks, EQ (Diamond Labs) at 600 mg per week for 16 weeks, replaced by tren acetate (Diamond Labs) at 100mg per day for the last 8 weeks, and I also had some orals timed in (winny, and then anavar at the end, which I've just started). Works for me, but may not be right for you.

Honestly, I felt like the EQ was worthless, but the tren kicked ass.

OTHstrong · « **Reply #35 on:** July 29, 2008, 04:22:08 PM »

Quote from: freakfestMD on July 29, 2008, 02:59:33 PM

Wow. Now I remember why I stopped posting here. Anyway, back on topic if that's OK:

Giving cc's is completely, absolutely meaningless without the concentrations.

Also, your past cycle experience is important for us to know. Remember, any dipshit can take steroids, and any dipshit can write out a cycle for you, but it does depend on what you have done before. How old are you? How long do you want to stay on? What are your goals? What training problems are you having or what deficiencies in your physique are you trying to overcome?

My present cycle includes test e (Galenika) at 1000mg per week x 24 weeks, EQ (Diamond Labs) at 600 mg per week for 16 weeks, replaced by tren acetate (Diamond Labs) at 100mg per day for the last 8 weeks, and I also had some orals timed in (winny, and then anavar at the end, which I've just started). Works for me, but may not be right for you.

Honestly, I felt like the EQ was worthless, but the tren kicked ass.

Good post

Rimbaud · « **Reply #36 on:** July 30, 2008, 04:29:52 AM »

Quote from: freakfestMD on July 29, 2008, 02:59:33 PM

Wow. Now I remember why I stopped posting here. Anyway, back on topic if that's OK:

Well, freak you & a couple others are diffidently missed.

Rimbaud · « **Reply #37 on:** July 30, 2008, 04:33:41 AM »

Quote from: candidizzle on July 28, 2008, 09:07:22 PM

i could go on and on about what ive experimented with and what my results have been. but then i would get bombarded with nonsense and threads on the g&o calling me out on my "claimss"...instead i phrase everything and say everything from a scientific viewpoint..

Well, then enlighten everyone & maybe you'll stop getting so much shit here. Why do you care so much about what those on the G&O say? Or do you enjoy the attention (although often negative)?

How you phrase things often comes out condescending at times & I don't think you realize.

Big_Tymer · « **Reply #38 on:** July 30, 2008, 05:30:02 PM »

freakfest you should post more. be nice if trab would come back also. lots of knowledge among you two.

4thAD · « **Reply #39 on:** July 30, 2008, 06:36:01 PM »

Yep I appreciate what you add to this board also FreakFestMD. I apologize if I offended you in any way bro, but I cant take people with zero experience talking up a big game. I am definitely not the most experienced guy here, but when you have no experience you should be a little humble at least.

candidizzle · « **Reply #40 on:** July 30, 2008, 07:56:12 PM »

Quote from: 4thAD on July 30, 2008, 06:36:01 PM

Yep I appreciate what you add to this board also FreakFestMD. I apologize if I offended you in any way bro, but I cant take people with zero experience talking up a big game. I am definitely not the most experienced guy here, but when you have no experience you should be a little humble at least.

benz · « **Reply #41 on:** July 30, 2008, 08:01:15 PM »

dizzle

and then you wonder why people hate you? you are lucky most of the info you wiped already from the net is in my hands and not somewhere else, so you dont have to pm every user here crying for mercy.

Most of the people is pretty tired of you, most had give you a lot of their time to answer your questions, but the way you act doesnt really represent someone who claims to be adult and smart.

Change, theres always time.

jtsunami · « **Reply #42 on:** July 30, 2008, 08:04:44 PM »

Quote from: benz on July 30, 2008, 08:01:15 PM

dizzle

and then you wonder why people hate you? you are lucky most of the info you wiped already from the net is in my hands and not somewhere else, so you dont have to pm every user here crying for mercy.

Most of the people is pretty tired of you, most had give you a lot of their time to answer your questions, but the way you act doesnt really represent someone who claims to be adult and smart.

Change, theres always time.

Good post benz

Rimbaud · « **Reply #43 on:** July 30, 2008, 08:55:15 PM »

Quote from: Big_Tymer on July 30, 2008, 05:30:02 PM

freakfest you should post more. be nice if trab would come back also. lots of knowledge among you two.

Agreed. But they've pretty much been driven away.

Rimbaud · « **Reply #44 on:** July 30, 2008, 08:56:23 PM »

Quote from: benz on July 30, 2008, 08:01:15 PM

dizzle

and then you wonder why people hate you? you are lucky most of the info you wiped already from the net is in my hands and not somewhere else, so you dont have to pm every user here crying for mercy.

Most of the people is pretty tired of you, most had give you a lot of their time to answer your questions, but the way you act doesnt really represent someone who claims to be adult and smart.

Change, theres always time.

Nice post benz. I'm growing tired of deleting posts.

steveeray · « **Reply #45 on:** July 30, 2008, 10:12:20 PM »

Not sure if someone answered but it is acording to your experience with anabolic.
Basic cycle would be:
TestE 250mg 2x's ew for 10 weeks
eq200mg 2x's ew for 10 weeks
trenE 200mg ew for 10 weeks
If you have enough eq preload 400-600mg ew 3-4 weeks before cycle start.
If you have trenA then 100mg ed to eod weeks 6-10.
Take note of progress:
Sometimes it takes years to find the perfect combo.
Everyone if different

rockedupmotha · « **Reply #46 on:** July 31, 2008, 04:01:00 AM »

thanks i think this is the one i'll go with...

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #47 on:** July 31, 2008, 04:37:53 AM »

Quote from: Rimbaud on July 30, 2008, 08:55:15 PM

Agreed. But they've pretty much been driven away.

Nahhh IF they were commited and really enjoyed the community it would take more than a troll or two to drive them off I hope.