Trey Brewer's nutritionist comes clean about what went wrong

[OTHstrong]

It has nothing to do with skin color, I ALL HAS TO DO WITH GENETICS.On the Average African American bodybuilders have smaller waists, get striated glutes, get Harder, and have rounder muscle bellies then the average white or Spanish bodybuilder.
I have seen white guys with small waists, and striated glutes, but it not nearly as ofter as it is with African American bodybuilders.What color where the 2 bodybuilders who won there pro cards at the Mr USA ?
My point is I dont think Trey Brewer has small joints, and round muscle bellies, like most of the African American Bodybuilders do that he is competing against.I dont think Trey Brewer has the symmetry, or the same lines as Edward Nunn does who won the Super heavies at the USA.

Let me guess you are African American. Sure they have symmetry and they are ripped but if you want to categories by race in what their genetics make up on average then I can say, on average of course, African Americans have shitty wheel which makes up half of bodybuilding, nothing to do with color of skin just genetics

[Brixtonbulldog]

Let me guess you are African American. Sure they have symmetry and they are ripped but if you want to categories by race in what their genetics make up on average then I can say, on average of course, African Americans have shitty wheel which makes up half of bodybuilding, nothing to do with color of skin just genetics

Early slave owners in the colonies and until the end of slavery favored the healthiest, strongest, and best working slaves for breeding.  It's no wonder the average black male today has better genetic musculature. 

Genetically, however, whites have more slow twitch muscle fibers which explain why whites usually dominate strength numbers.  Blacks have more fast twitch fibers contributing to better speed and agility.

As far as my opinion on the "looks" issue I guess you could say whites have better faces and blacks have better bodies if you want to generalize.  Black facial features are not attractive IMO and having pubic hair all over your body must suck.

[tleilaxutank]

Sounds like a bullshit artist...

When are bodybuilders gonna learn that if they have enough gear and thermogenics they can eat BK and McD's everyday until 12 weeks before the show when they need to restrict their calories while doubling the dosage?



"duuuuuuuuuh, they told us after the excalibur to bring a different package...duuuuuuuh"


puuuhhhlleeaaase   

[Old-Skool]

ever notice how guys early in their careers dial it in themselves...then they get noticed.....get a trainer/nutrition guru who is suppose to lead them to the promised land ...and they come in looking shit...

[dr.chimps]

Early slave owners in the colonies and until the end of slavery favored the healthiest, strongest, and best working slaves for breeding. It's no wonder the average black male today has better genetic musculature. 

Genetically, however, whites have more slow twitch muscle fibers which explain why whites usually dominate strength numbers.  Blacks have more fast twitch fibers contributing to better speed and agility.

As far as my opinion on the "looks" issue I guess you could say whites have better faces and blacks have better bodies if you want to generalize.  Black facial features are not attractive IMO and having pubic hair all over your body must suck.

Yeah, those qualities really paid off against hellish working conditions, disease and lack of nutrition. You got any other hoary myths you want to trot out? 

[youandme]

Poor, impressionable Bo Bo... he's listening to all the hype and taking all the proverbial patting on the back to heart. The poor retard is just going to keep drugging himself up for a plastic trophy and end up getting burnt out. At the end of the day, he's still a very young man and he's trying too hard.

Everyone argues that you can't burn out receptors, that if you just keep eating you can't overtrain, but mark my words... watch this kid a few years from now. He's going to burn himself the fuck out and become a young Kovacs before you know it. His skin is going to be thicker than a basketball, it'll sag off his muscles, his gut will stick out permanently, his hair will fall out, his triceps will strangely atrophy (I dunno why this happens), he will lose the little separation he has in his quads and he'll look like his permanently sick.

I do wish him the best of luck, but until he picks up a book, gets a few more points towards the old intelligence quotient and stops listening to his retarded advisers he's only going to fuck himself over.

Good post Dustin.

[njflex]

Let me guess you are African American. Sure they have symmetry and they are ripped but if you want to categories by race in what their genetics make up on average then I can say, on average of course, African Americans have shitty wheel which makes up half of bodybuilding, nothing to do with color of skin just genetics

he's of italian descent...knows his stuff...

[TechnoViking]

a pound of potatoes while dieting AND a pound of lean meat....seems like a lot of carbs with those potatoes..must be nice while dieting.  he had to be on DNP or something.

He may have been onusing DNP but there are plenty of guys out there that use massive amounts of potatoes to carb load(potassium loading)...It is hit or miss though...I've heard stories of guys eating 20 pounds of potatoes in the days leading into a show...

[Brixtonbulldog]

Yeah, those qualities really paid off against hellish working conditions, disease and lack of nutrition. You got any other hoary myths you want to trot out? 

Silence!!!

It's all true.  A prominent news anchor was fired a few years back for being "racially insensitive" by saying the same thing.  Brush up on it.  Many slaves were treated pretty well (for a slave).

[LATS]

 THERE IS ABSOLUITELY NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT GETITONNY SAID..  he is absolutely right.. it comes down to genetics.. and most blacks on average have better genes for muscle than whites..just look at the ifbb.. do you think that is just a fluke that most of the top bodybuilders are black?.. of course not.. since hites outnumber blacks greatly you can very safely assume that more whites lift and bodybuild than balcks.. yet, more blacks place than whites.. easy math guys.. i would kill for those types of genes.. full muscle bellies and tiny waists.. hell, i have the irish curse of wide hips and lack of symmettry.. not hatin' .. just stating facts and i am jealous..  

[20inch calves]

THERE IS ABSOLUITELY NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT GETITONNY SAID..  he is absolutely right.. it comes down to genetics.. and most blacks on average have better genes for muscle than whites..just look at the ifbb.. do you think that is just a fluke that most of the top bodybuilders are black?.. of course not.. since hites outnumber blacks greatly you can very safely assume that more whites lift and bodybuild than balcks.. yet, more blacks place than whites.. easy math guys.. i would kill for those types of genes.. full muscle bellies and tiny waists.. hell, i have the irish curse of wide hips and lack of symmettry.. not hatin' .. just stating facts and i am jealous..  

WHATEVER!!!!!!

[CalvinH]

How about Trey just ate too much.

[dustin]

I also don't have any quarrel with that getitonny said either. Face the truth, guys. No need to be on the forum if you don't have thick skin. Black people do have crazy genetics for bodybuilding.

I remember there was this black kid in one of my classes, and there are only like 20 black people in my town, and he was fucking JACKED. More jacked than anyone I've ever seen in real life up until that point. His muscle bellies were so pumped and round that they just hung off the bone. I remember separation in his biceps, his calves, everywhere. Never touched a weight in his life. Couldn't have been more than 150lbs in hindsight, but looked a good 30lbs heavier than what he actually was. I'm not gay or anything, but I just remember that when we were both doing swimming in PE everyone's jaws were on the floor. He looked like he juiced, but he ate like he was still living in Ethiopia.

I don't know what that blank people tangent was all about, but in any event... Trey does have a good chance. He's got great gifts for a white person. Those legs can be refined without very much trouble at all. Some more sweep and definition can be attained within a year and with very little effort for him. His posing can be GREATLY improved, should he stop being such a bu bu retard and seek help. And the rest of his flaws don't even really need correction - he just needs to employ a proper off season where he doesn't obsess over the numbers on the scale and just trains really hard. To go from what he was in the off season, to how conditioned he was at the Excalibur was very surprising. If he actually had a productive off season, then dieted down without having to lose 6,000lbs in pure lard, he could come in with phenomenal conditioning. Perhaps even life up to his moniker, the Phenom. I'm sure he likes the sound of that over "Lunch" Trey Brewer.

If you ask me, the retard is throwing a way his gifts. While he's not genetically gifted like some black individuals out there, he's doing damn good for a white guy. Dunno how that argument was proposed but it's a moot point. He can't go back in time and get shit out by his momma as a black baby.

[GetItOnNY]

I been training for 22 years, and I competed for 11 years.Trust me in bodybuilding, genetics will make or break you.
I used to competed at 258lbs and come in hard, but I never looked as Good as Brandon Curry.Another good example Dave Palumbo, one of the most knowledgeable people I ever met in the sport, tried for atleast 10 years to become a pro.He got up to over 300lbs, would come in at 270lbs ripped to the bone.Yet he could never look as good as guys like Brandon Curry.
Dave Palumbo and I are both Italian so we have pretty good genetics and were both big men.But we are no match for a small boned African American bodybuilder withround muscle bellies.I am not saying all African American bodybuilders have better genetics, because there are rejects like Vince Goodrum.I am just saying on the average, most African American bodybuilders, have better shape and round muscle bellies then most white or Spanish bodybuilders.
Brandon Curry I heard is 25 years old, and turned pro, I dont care what you say thats genetics my friend.
I bet Brandon Curry was one of those genetically muscular kids when he was growing up, we all have seen them.I know a friend of mine named Ronnie Gatlin who had an incredable physique, who was African American, yet only did push ups.He was 180lbs solid, round delts, thick chest, 6 pack and probably 6-7% bodyfat.
IN BODYBUILDING  IT COMES DOWN TO GENEITCS, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT.
Brandon Curry, has great genetics,and I dont know to many guys 25 years old that can look this good

[GetItOnNY]

I dont think Trey Brewer could ever be this symmetrical, or have muscle bellies this round

[dustin]

I been training for 22 years, and I competed for 11 years.Trust me in bodybuilding, genetics will make or break you.
I used to competed at 258lbs and come in hard, but I never looked as Good as Brandon Curry.Another good example Dave Palumbo, one of the most knowledgeable people I ever met in the sport, tried for atleast 10 years to become a pro.He got up to over 300lbs, would come in at 270lbs ripped to the bone.Yet he could never look as good as guys like Brandon Curry.
Dave Palumbo and I are both Italian so we have pretty good genetics and were both big men.But we are no match for a small boned African American bodybuilder withround muscle bellies.I am not saying all African American bodybuilders have better genetics, because there are rejects like Vince Goodrum.I am just saying on the average, most African American bodybuilders, have better shape and round muscle bellies then most white or Spanish bodybuilders.
Brandon Curry I heard is 25 years old, and turned pro, I dont care what you say thats genetics my friend.
I bet Brandon Curry was one of those genetically muscular kids when he was growing up, we all have seen them.I know a friend of mine named Ronnie Gatlin who had an incredable physique, who was African American, yet only did push ups.He was 180lbs solid, round delts, thick chest, 6 pack and probably 6-7% bodyfat.
IN BODYBUILDING  IT COMES DOWN TO GENEITCS, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT.
Brandon Curry, has great genetics,and I dont know to many guys 25 years old that can look this good

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want to shake your hand, good sir. I hope that you have a fine day, because you just made mine!

[Brixtonbulldog]

I also don't have any quarrel with that getitonny said either. Face the truth, guys. No need to be on the forum if you don't have thick skin. Black people do have crazy genetics for bodybuilding.

I remember there was this black kid in one of my classes, and there are only like 20 black people in my town, and he was fucking JACKED. More jacked than anyone I've ever seen in real life up until that point. His muscle bellies were so pumped and round that they just hung off the bone. I remember separation in his biceps, his calves, everywhere. Never touched a weight in his life. Couldn't have been more than 150lbs in hindsight, but looked a good 30lbs heavier than what he actually was. I'm not gay or anything, but I just remember that when we were both doing swimming in PE everyone's jaws were on the floor. He looked like he juiced, but he ate like he was still living in Ethiopia.

I don't know what that blank people tangent was all about, but in any event... Trey does have a good chance. He's got great gifts for a white person. Those legs can be refined without very much trouble at all. Some more sweep and definition can be attained within a year and with very little effort for him. His posing can be GREATLY improved, should he stop being such a bu bu retard and seek help. And the rest of his flaws don't even really need correction - he just needs to employ a proper off season where he doesn't obsess over the numbers on the scale and just trains really hard. To go from what he was in the off season, to how conditioned he was at the Excalibur was very surprising. If he actually had a productive off season, then dieted down without having to lose 6,000lbs in pure lard, he could come in with phenomenal conditioning. Perhaps even life up to his moniker, the Phenom. I'm sure he likes the sound of that over "Lunch" Trey Brewer.

If you ask me, the retard is throwing a way his gifts. While he's not genetically gifted like some black individuals out there, he's doing damn good for a white guy. Dunno how that argument was proposed but it's a moot point. He can't go back in time and get shit out by his momma as a black baby.

100% correct.  In boot camp we only had 4 or 5 blacks out of 80 or so recruits to start.  One guy looked like he could win a Nat'l contest.  Maybe 5% bf at 6 ft around 210-215lbs.  The fuck of it all was he never worked out although he did play sports and he just ate shit foods (white bread, chips, snacks, tons of soda) all the time and never cared or payed any attention to how he ate.  He didn't even know about carbs, protien intake, etc.

[dustin]

100% correct.  In boot camp we only had 4 or 5 blacks out of 80 or so recruits to start.  One guy looked like he could win a Nat'l contest.  Maybe 5% bf at 6 ft around 210-215lbs.  The fuck of it all was he never worked out although he did play sports and he just ate shit foods (white bread, chips, snacks, tons of soda) all the time and never cared or payed any attention to how he ate.  He didn't even know about carbs, protien intake, etc.

Ignorance is bliss, eh. I wish I could look jacked from Twizzlers, Pepsi and two meals a day.

[Brixtonbulldog]

Ignorance is bliss, eh. I wish I could look jacked from Twizzlers, Pepsi and two meals a day.

Fuck yeah.. I would eat tostitos with jalapeno and cheddar dip, bread and hummus, peanut butter with honey, and drink beer for every meal.

Eh.. now I'm depressed and bitter

[jason_deluxe]

I never quite understood the hype around old lunchtrey, without a doubt he has some of the worst genetics for bodybuilding I have ever seen (wide hips/waist, undersized upper body, odd muscle bellies...). Just because he claims to be 22 (though he looks decades older)? Hell if you gave your average tapout kid in the gym the amount of drugs this jackhole is on they'd likely look as good or better.

[Brixtonbulldog]

I never quite understood the hype around old lunchtrey, without a doubt he has some of the worst genetics for bodybuilding I have ever seen (wide hips/waist, undersized upper body, odd muscle bellies...). Just because he claims to be 22 (though he looks decades older)? Hell if you gave your average tapout kid in the gym the amount of drugs this jackhole is on they'd likely look as good or better.

Not sure about that.  Considering his background and massive frame alone (ht+wt/shoulders/ribcage) along with his current development I think he has a great deal of potential.  Of course, if he's an idiot he might fuck up and squander it before he gets off the ground.

And he does look at least 30.

[GetItOnNY]

I think Trey is huge, and has really big legs.But he is blocky, and his chest is not really that thick.He also has "log arms" they are kind of big, but there is no peak to his bicep.I think if he has to compete aginast a guy like Mr Nunn who won the super heavy weghts at the USA, he will get smoked.I think if Trey gets some muscle maturity behind him, gets a thicken more dense chest, and gets a good peak on his arms, he could do some damage.

[Brixtonbulldog]

I think Trey is huge, and has really big legs.But he is blocky, and his chest is not really that thick.He also has "log arms" they are kind of big, but there is no peak to his bicep.I think if he has to compete aginast a guy like Mr Nunn who won the super heavy weghts at the USA, he will get smoked.I think if Trey gets some muscle maturity behind him, gets a thicken more dense chest, and gets a good peak on his arms, he could do some damage.

Agree, especially with the muscle maturity issue.

I don't think we'll be able to see his real potential, or even get a hint of it, for at least another 4 years.

[Fortress]

... have more slow-twitch-muscle fibers which explains why ... usually dominate strength (sports).

You really have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

[20inch calves]

You really have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

whites often due dominate strength sports though