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If it really was a "liberal" media......
« on: August 12, 2008, 09:22:01 PM »
Wouldn't all these super left wing ideas and theories be constantly jammed down our throats as truth?

You know extreme things all the libs cite as truth?

There are mostly liberals or democrats that are in the media.  But they are controlled by the men with the gold.  And the men with the gold don't like super left wing ideas and conclusions.


The liberal media idea is a tool used to create conflict between to ideologies.  It's virtually monopolized news.  Owned by very rich companies.

Or you can't be into reporting the truth unless you are a liberal?   ;)

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2008, 09:26:37 PM »
Why didnt FOX NEWS report on John Edwards' love child?

Why did FOX news donate more $ to obama campaign than MSNBC did?

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2008, 09:33:23 PM »
Why didnt FOX NEWS report on John Edwards' love child?

Why did FOX news donate more $ to obama campaign than MSNBC did?


Who owns fox news?   Did the owner send the $$$?  Does the owner of FOX have more to gain financially with Obama in the whitehouse? 

I really want to know.  Because i don't see the media being liberal.  I see liberal journalists.  And i see editors who want advertising revenue constantly coming in and i don't see businesses and corporations funding extreme left "truths"

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2008, 10:04:58 PM »
Wouldn't all these super left wing ideas and theories be constantly jammed down our throats as truth?


No.  They typically have to be subtle.  Sometimes they're blatant.  There must be at least the appearance of objectivity. 


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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2008, 10:10:56 PM »
No.  They typically have to be subtle.  Sometimes they're blatant.  There must be at least the appearance of objectivity. 



That never stopped Fox in the past 8 years, ...why would they change their ways now?
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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2008, 10:14:42 PM »
No.  They typically have to be subtle.  Sometimes they're blatant.  There must be at least the appearance of objectivity. 



If you look at the volume of content as a whole compared to the content you would get from many of these "left and liberal" web sites, you'll see they are 2 different things.  If it really was liberal it would lean left always.  It doesn't.  It leans where the advertising revenue comes from.

And subtle?

they would challenge nearly every statement made by the US government regarding anything for the last 8 years if it was the "liberal media"  

In fact wouldn't they use other outside the USA networks like arab ones and cite stories to balance out the governments statements if they were "liberal" and not controlled by conservative US corporations?

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2008, 10:26:46 PM »
If you look at the volume of content as a whole compared to the content you would get from many of these "left and liberal" web sites, you'll see they are 2 different things.  If it really was liberal it would lean left always.  It doesn't.  It leans where the advertising revenue comes from.

And subtle?

they would challenge nearly every statement made by the US government regarding anything for the last 8 years if it was the "liberal media"  

In fact wouldn't they use other outside the USA networks like arab ones and cite stories to balance out the governments statements if they were "liberal" and not controlled by conservative US corporations?

I wasn't really referring to websites, many of which are clearly biased left or right (e.g., huffington post v. newsmax).  I was talking more about the MSM.

They can't be subtle and blatant at the same time. 

Ever since I actually started paying attention to that angle, I've seen it repeatedly.     

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2008, 10:56:34 PM »
I wasn't really referring to websites, many of which are clearly biased left or right (e.g., huffington post v. newsmax).  I was talking more about the MSM.

They can't be subtle and blatant at the same time. 

Ever since I actually started paying attention to that angle, I've seen it repeatedly.     

Like when CNN, cuts to a shot of McCain giving a speech for 15 seconds, showing some commentary of the meeting or speech, then all of a sudden they pan back to the reporters as they mention the network will be airing a special presentation of "The Real Obama" a 2 hour event tonight 8pm eastern time.

Yeah I notice that subtleness as well.

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2008, 11:13:49 PM »

The Myth of the Liberal Media: The Propaganda Model of News



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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2008, 11:15:41 PM »
Like when CNN, cuts to a shot of McCain giving a speech for 15 seconds, showing some commentary of the meeting or speech, then all of a sudden they pan back to the reporters as they mention the network will be airing a special presentation of "The Real Obama" a 2 hour event tonight 8pm eastern time.

Yeah I notice that subtleness as well.

More subtlety:

DAVID GERGEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST, EDITOR-AT-LARGE, "U.S. NEWS & WORLD REPORT," ADVISED NIXON, FORD, REAGAN, CLINTON: Absolutely. I do think the coverage has been unbalanced. "The Tyndall Report," which measures these things, he finds that the network news programs have devoted far more time to Obama than they have to McCain.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/21/lkl.01.html

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2008, 11:32:18 PM »
The best part of this was a few nights ago when Rev. Pfleger, was at a Black Convention and said that Hannity from Fox "controls the direction of politics" he went on later to say that he should be "stopped" whatever that means ::)

Wow this guy is nutty.


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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2008, 11:37:59 PM »
The best part of this was a few nights ago when Rev. Pfleger, was at a Black Convention and said that Hannity from Fox "controls the direction of politics" he went on later to say that he should be "stopped" whatever that means ::)

Wow this guy is nutty.



{LOL} A "BLACK" convention?  Was that the name of it? What exactly is a "Black" convention anyway?   ::)

Hey Big_Mal, Parker, DrKaje, ...did you get your invitations to the "Black" convention? I didn't get mine.  :(
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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2008, 11:39:27 PM »
Who owns fox news?   Did the owner send the $$$?  Does the owner of FOX have more to gain financially with Obama in the whitehouse? 

I really want to know.  Because i don't see the media being liberal.  I see liberal journalists.  And i see editors who want advertising revenue constantly coming in and i don't see businesses and corporations funding extreme left "truths"
The notorious right winger Rupert Murdoch owns FIXED News, as well as the Wall Street Journal, NY Post and a bunch of other things.


The Myth of the Liberal Media: The Propaganda Model of News



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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2008, 04:33:56 AM »
obama is better for ratings.  good or bad, his name and face keeps viewers longer than mccain's does.

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2008, 08:30:16 AM »
I wasn't really referring to websites, many of which are clearly biased left or right (e.g., huffington post v. newsmax).  I was talking more about the MSM.

They can't be subtle and blatant at the same time. 

Ever since I actually started paying attention to that angle, I've seen it repeatedly.     

I reference web sites because that's where you get the most radical stuff.   If the media was really liberal, we'd get that.

There are plenty of liberals in the media, but that doesn't make the media Liberal.

And you assertion about objectivity goes out the window, because if the media was liberal they wouldn't have to balance out their content so much.  Think about the power the media has.  they can create whatever truth they want and sow distrust in our government in a heartbeat

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2008, 08:32:24 AM »
Like when CNN, cuts to a shot of McCain giving a speech for 15 seconds, showing some commentary of the meeting or speech, then all of a sudden they pan back to the reporters as they mention the network will be airing a special presentation of "The Real Obama" a 2 hour event tonight 8pm eastern time.

Yeah I notice that subtleness as well.

That's not being subtle that news.  No one wants to here about some old gray haired fart.  I'm look at you, you spend more time focusing on Obama then talking about the benefits of having McCain in the White house.

don't you have any good to ay about what McCain will do?  Other then not doing what you are afraid Obama will do.

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2008, 09:28:19 AM »
No one wants to here about some old gray haired fart. 

Quite an opinion you have there.

Topic of discussion is on liberal media, so your not denying the fact that CNN shows more of Obama "specials" than McCain?

Thought so

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2008, 09:33:12 AM »
Quite an opinion you have there.

Topic of discussion is on liberal media, so your not denying the fact that CNN shows more of Obama "specials" than McCain?

Thought so

McCain is a lame duck presidential candidate. GOP knows this, they know they have to put a horse in this race but they know they aren't going to win it. Politics is a giant show for the public to see. The things that need to get done will get done the rest is fluffer.
Barring nothing extraordinary happens, Obama has this presidency. It really doesn't matter though. Same bullshit different president.

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2008, 09:39:15 AM »
Quite an opinion you have there.

It's business,  the news business,  the business that's driven by advertising revenue.   Not my opinion. 

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Topic of discussion is on liberal media, so your not denying the fact that CNN shows more of Obama "specials" than McCain?

Thought so

No, not at all, I'm explaining why it is that way which is something obviously beyond your understanding of how ratings influence what's covered on the news because of advertising revenue.  This is a hard concept for you to grasp becuase it dispels your notion about bias.  The news is NOT obligated to be objective and give each candidate Equal time.  They will report what people want to hear and see.  And no one is interested (at the moment) in an old pandering whore geezer you are deny or not even supporting and it seems you are more gay for Obama than anything else.

You are so naive dude.   :)

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2008, 09:40:50 AM »
McCain is a lame duck presidential candidate. GOP knows this, they know they have to put a horse in this race but they know they aren't going to win it. Politics is a giant show for the public to see. The things that need to get done will get done the rest is fluffer.
Barring nothing extraordinary happens, Obama has this presidency. It really doesn't matter though. Same bullshit different president.

Perhaps. I'm not in disagreement that he is a lame choice for president, the GOP should have went with Mitt, but Ozmo's opinion makes no sense that no ones wants to see or hear of McCain when just 5 months ago, he was the most talked about politician on all major news networks, and discussions were cast on how the media coverage was biased towards him.


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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2008, 09:42:31 AM »
Perhaps. I'm not in disagreement that he is a lame choice for president, the GOP should have went with Mitt, but Ozmo's opinion makes no sense that no ones wants to see or hear of McCain when just 5 months ago, he was the most talked about politician on all major news networks, and discussions were cast on how the media coverage was biased towards him.



Read OzmO's last comment and you will see.

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2008, 09:42:51 AM »
You are so naive dude.   :)

Please enlighten me   ::)

You seem to know so much, yet remain a loser, mystery.  

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2008, 09:47:51 AM »
Perhaps. I'm not in disagreement that he is a lame choice for president, the GOP should have went with Mitt, but Ozmo's opinion makes no sense that no ones wants to see or hear of McCain when just 5 months ago, he was the most talked about politician on all major news networks, and discussions were cast on how the media coverage was biased towards him.



And.................   McCain been doing what lately?   


And.................   What has OBama been doing?   Traveling where?  Making news where?


You think it's about fairness...........  how silly.


It's ABOUT money!   News is money.  If you report what epopel are interested in they will watch it.   McCain isn't making news lately so he's not being reported.

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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2008, 09:48:22 AM »
Read OzmO's last comment and you will see.


Let me guess your his son, that can't read English or speak Spanish.

The resemblance of losers is uncanny.

Maybe I should support Democrats, so they can continue to build education in the lower line poverty areas.

Haha.

"will report what people want to hear and see."

Interesting since 50% of America says they are getting tored of Obama

Almost half of Americans polled in a new study say they have heard too much about Sen. Barack Obama recently and 38 percent want to hear more about his opponent Sen. John McCain.
The report by the Pew Center for the People and the Press shows that Obama is more visible to the public than McCain by 76 to 11 percent, but that exposure could be working against him, the research center reports. Twenty-two percent say that they recently have had a less favorable view of the presumptive Democratic nominee, compared to 16 percent who have a more favorable view.

The media has covered Obama more than McCain every week since the race narrowed to the presumptive nominees, except for last week when the coverage balanced out, according to the Project for Excellence in Journalism.

The Pew report also shows that Republicans and Democrats think Obama's television advertisements have been mostly positive, while both parties believe McCain's have been mostly negative. However, Republicans are less likely to call McCain's ads negative, similar to how Democrats are more likely to call Obama's positive.

Respondents noted seeing highly-visible commercials from both campaigns. Forty-three percent saw Obama's commercial, in which he told the story of his family roots in Kansas. Forty-one percent saw the McCain campaign's "celebrity" ad that compared Obama to Britney Spears and Paris Hilton.


Maybe when you two make money you can, quite thinking the world is a conspiracy ran by the NWO

Your so naive


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Re: If it really was a "liberal" media......
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2008, 09:49:15 AM »
And.................   McCain been doing what lately?   


And.................   What has OBama been doing?   Traveling where?  Making news where?


You think it's about fairness...........  how silly.


It's ABOUT money!   News is money.  If you report what epopel are interested in they will watch it.   McCain isn't making news lately so he's not being reported.

38 percent want to hear more about his opponent Sen. John McCain.