Balance & proportion are most certainly the 'same thing' you're an idiot because you didn't crush nothing in fact you crushed yourself because you haven't done shit to prove they are different. again how can you be involved in a debate when you don't even know what you're talking about? YOU CAN'T you're not in the game even when things are explained to you stupidity and pride prevent you from learning.
And same with the topic of conditioning you'd have to know what constitutes great conditioning in order to comment who has better conditioning , again you're speaking on topics which you don't know much about.
I've posted pics, video, eye-witness testimony, and used knowledge of anatomy and physiology. All you have is a quote from one guy who 'thinks' no bodybuilder has ever been "harder" than Dorian. Come back when you actually have material.
I already countered this by showing that definition is positively correlated with a decrease in body fat and water levels. For your argument to carry any weight, you would have to demonstrate that Dorian is the exception to the rule which is impossible since it would mean he defies human anatomy and physiology.
ha ha ha, your arguments are lame. All you do is say "anything contrary to my opinion is just plain f*cking dumb." Wow, really? Great argument there, idiot. 
Balance & proportion are most certainly the 'same thing' you're an idiot because you didn't crush nothing in fact you crushed yourself because you haven't done shit to prove they are different. again how can you be involved in a debate when you don't even know what you're talking about? YOU CAN'T you're not in the game even when things are explained to you stupidity and pride prevent you from learning.
yeah I thought so , keep trying to follow my leader kid its all you can do
And same with the topic of conditioning you'd have to know what constitutes great conditioning in order to comment who has better conditioning , again you're speaking on topics which you don't know much about.
see above
I've posted pics, video, eye-witness testimony, and used knowledge of anatomy and physiology. All you have is a quote from one guy who 'thinks' no bodybuilder has ever been "harder" than Dorian. Come back when you actually have material.
a guy lmfao who thinks , lets see who would be right a guy with 40+ years of bodybuilding experience or some fan boy who is a " Certified Personal Trainer " LMFAO someone who was at all said contests or some dummy looking at pictures lmfao you're going to tell eyewitnesses they're wrong and you're right , case closed and FYI Dorian Yates is an IFBB judge he;s stated on a few occasions he's better conditioned than Ronnie ......next
I already countered this by showing that definition is positively correlated with a decrease in body fat and water levels. For your argument to carry any weight, you would have to demonstrate that Dorian is the exception to the rule which is impossible since it would mean he defies human anatomy and physiology.
I said striations are PARTLY genetic dummy no shit you'd have to be well conditioned to see them so naturally definition is correlated to a decrease in bodyfat and water levels you're countering a point NO ONE is arguing , and I've said many , many times Ronnie probably matched yates in the conditioning department ONLY at his lightest so either way you're fucked to say he surpassed it is ignorant and stupid especially considering you never even seen them live and in person and basing your opinion on a faulty means with ignorance as your guide lmfao
ha ha ha, your arguments are lame. All you do is say "anything contrary to my opinion is just plain f*cking dumb." Wow, really? Great argument there, idiot.
Lame? my argument is based on the Official IFBB judging criteria , my argument hasn't changed and you and no other dummy can counter it , Dorian would beat Ronnie because he has better muscle balance & proportion ( two separate entities BTW
) better density & dryness , better bulk ( depending on the year ) and he's also a better technical poser and has better presentation , you can't counter this and never could and I proved that Yates is all of the above directly compared to Ronnie , you've done ZERO
Again I'm not debating with you , you'd have to know what you're talking about to be part of a debate and you have proven time and time again you are ignorant
