wow, f*ck me you are retarded as hell. Conditioning is determined by body fat and water levels in the body. Since the only way to know for sure is by testing in a lab - which is impractical during competition for obvious reasons - we must rely on visual clues to determine conditioning. This is done by assessing the level of separations and striations in the body. If you have another explanation, I'm all ears but until then your 'evidence' amounts to nothing more than an uneducated opinion.
I'm still waiting for you to show how Dorian is the exception to the rule. What makes more sense: that Dorian achieved the greatest conditioning of all-time while simultaneously having no definition (a feat that has never been duplicated in history) or his "legendary" conditioning was overrated?
that's funny, I already showed how 03 Ronnie would beat Dorian using the IFBB criteria. Let's see... Ronnie has better muscular bulk, definition, symmetry, shape, and fullness. Dorian has better proportion and density. 
wow, f*ck me you are retarded as hell. Conditioning is determined by body fat and water levels in the body. Since the only way to know for sure is by testing in a lab - which is impractical during competition for obvious reasons - we must rely on visual clues to determine conditioning. This is done by assessing the level of separations and striations in the body. If you have another explanation, I'm all ears but until then your 'evidence' amounts to nothing more than an uneducated opinion.
Idiot I know what conditioning is and isn't you don't because you can't seem to grasp the concept striations and separations are for the most part genetic OBVIOUSLY you need low bodyfat and thin skin to seem them however not all bodybuildings are genetically inclined to have the same amount , which is exactly why guys like Munzer and Hamdullah Aykutlu had more than anyone else and again you can have striated muscle under a layer of water and thanks for agreeing that we must rely on visual clues to determine conditioning and those visual clues would be ONLY accurate if you were actually at the fucking contest , pictures will NEVER replace being there so right off the bat YOUR opinion is severely limited yet you go right on trying to speak matter of factly telling an well established person who was actually there on all said occasions he's wrong and you're right , massively ignorant and insanely stupid on your behalf traits you've proven prone too , couple that and Dorian Yates who is an IFBB judge by the way saying he's better conditioned than Ronnie and your fan-boy opinion is worth fuck-all
I'm still waiting for you to show how Dorian is the exception to the rule. What makes more sense: that Dorian achieved the greatest conditioning of all-time while simultaneously having no definition (a feat that has never been duplicated in history) or his "legendary" conditioning was overrated?
Who said Yates was the exception to the rule? please show me where I claimed this and I'll be waiting and again YOU and dummy Hulkster keep claiming his conditioning was overrated which is ignorant as it gets so me ONE single quote posting these from anyone of integrity , please do , I'll be waiting for that as well
I've always maintained Ronnie may have matched Dorian for that same bone dry and super hard conditioning at the 2001 or 1998 contests however he could NOT maintain that same conditioning like Dorian at high body weights which is exactly why McGough said while on the topic of conditioning NO ONE did it better than Yates because he could remain bone dry and rock hard without losing fullness , Ronnie the heavier he became the more his conditioning suffered for it , which happens to everyone , however Yates could go much hight and still remain dense thats the difference
that's funny, I already showed how 03 Ronnie would beat Dorian using the IFBB criteria. Let's see... Ronnie has better muscular bulk, definition, symmetry, shape, and fullness. Dorian has better proportion and density.
You never showed anything you typed it but that doesn't mean anything , Ronnie has better muscular bulk NO doubt , Dorian has better muscle balance & proportion ( Ronnie's 2003 is at its all-time worse ) Dorian has the clear advantage in DENSITY & DRYNESS , Ronnie was soft compared to his earlier versions nevermind like Yates , posing & presentation , Yates , completeness Yates , 2003 is the worse example to challenge Yates the fact that you think its not shows your ignorance , I hate to break it to you again sport 2003 isn't considered his best BY anyone except fan-boys
to sum up the McGough quote I think a heavier Ronnie would just look soft next to a hard Yates
and thats exactly what would happen
Dorian would beat ANY version of Ronnie because he has better dryness and density , better balance & proportion , better posing & presentation and depending on the year he carries more conditioned muscular bulk , oh and he's more complete too , its that simple even for stupid people like you
