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Re: Professional Saudi Beheader talks about his trade...very cool...
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2008, 02:07:15 PM »
Yep.  It's a trash culture, no doubt about it.
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« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2008, 02:09:36 PM »
CJ's right on this bobs. Sure, professionals parachute in for the high salaries but they live in compounds and leave at the end of term. The menial jobs are filled by those from the Indian sub-continent and they're treated like trash. The whole regime is one big hypocritical ball of human and civil rights rights abuses sustained by a very rich minority sitting on oil. Check agencies like Human Rights Watch or Amnesty International and Saudi is one of the worst.  :-X

Very true

Phillipino and south east asian women are hired as nannies/housekeepers and are then tortured by their employers. Some of them are raped/burnt and are locked in to prevent them from escaping. A lot of countries that send workers to the middleeast are now demanding safe working conditions. India now refuses to send ANY workers to the middleeast for that reason. For some reason the orientals are the worst paid.

Other workers such as plumbers/electricians and  other manual labourers are all housed in some steaming hot warehouse where they are rarely paid and fed. They can't fly back becuase they can no longer afford to buy a return air ticket.

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Re: Professional Saudi Beheader talks about his trade...very cool...
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2008, 02:11:52 PM »
CJ's right on this bobs. Sure, professionals parachute in for the high salaries but they live in compounds and leave at the end of term. The menial jobs are filled by those from the Indian sub-continent and they're treated like trash. The whole regime is one big hypocritical ball of human and civil rights rights abuses sustained by a very rich minority sitting on oil. Check agencies like Human Rights Watch or Amnesty International and Saudi is one of the worst.  :-X

Average standard of living is definitely better in North America - I wasn't contesting that; just saying as an individual I wouldn't rule out ever possibility living there.

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« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2008, 02:16:17 PM »
Very true

Phillipino and south east asian women are hired as nannies/housekeepers and are then tortured by their employers. Some of them are raped/burnt and are locked in to prevent them from escaping. A lot of countries that send workers to the middleeast are now demanding safe working conditions. India now refuses to send ANY workers to the middleeast for that reason. For some reason the orientals are the worst paid.

Other workers such as plumbers/electricians and  other manual labourers are all housed in some steaming hot warehouse where they are rarely paid and fed. They can't fly back becuase they can no longer afford to buy a return air ticket.

Yes it's worse for certain foreigners working in Saudi, especially South Asians like you mentioned.

I used to work for one of the "Big 4" accounting firms, and one of my coworkers was a Pakistani citizen who first worked in one of the firm's Saudi offices, and then transferred to my office in Canada.  He was telling me that while he worked in Saudi, the firm's HR had devised a salary grid that had a separate column for your citizenship, so your salary was not only based on qualifications but where you're from.  He told me that if he gets his Canadian citizenship and then returns to that same office in Saudi his salary would skyrocket compared to what he was earning before he left.

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Re: Professional Saudi Beheader talks about his trade...very cool...
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2008, 02:20:44 PM »
Average standard of living is definitely better in North America - I wasn't contesting that; just saying as an individual I wouldn't rule out ever possibility living there.
Hmmm. Problem with plutocracies (or offshore banking islands in the Caribbean, etc.) like Saudi is that the very rich elite skew the gross figures to such a degree that resulting average incomes look favourable. They're not.


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« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2008, 02:21:16 PM »
Yes it's worse for certain foreigners working in Saudi, especially South Asians like you mentioned.

I used to work for one of the "Big 4" accounting firms, and one of my coworkers was a Pakistani citizen who first worked in one of the firm's Saudi offices, and then transferred to my office in Canada.  He was telling me that while he worked in Saudi, the firm's HR had devised a salary grid that had a separate column for your citizenship, so your salary was not only based on qualifications but where you're from.  He told me that if he gets his Canadian citizenship and then returns to that same office in Saudi his salary would skyrocket compared to what he was earning before he left.

If you're a top echelon guy at the big 4 you will get treated like royalty. Nothing is off limits to you since they will roll out the red carpet- drugs/women/whatever is yours for the  asking. Of course you have to be caucasian. One of my friends has a blast whenever he goes down there on business. They take care of him since he's a high profile consultant.

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Re: Professional Saudi Beheader talks about his trade...very cool...
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2008, 02:25:55 PM »
Great Arab Genetics

He's black (of African descent) you idiot...

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« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2008, 02:27:38 PM »
Hmmm. Problem with plutocracies (or offshore banking islands in the Caribbean, etc.) like Saudi is that the very rich elite skew the gross figures to such a degree that resulting average incomes look favourable. They're not.



Saudi's employ top flight consultants from Europe and US to help them with their investments and development schemes. George Bush Sr is one very highly paid "consultant" for the Saudi Royal Family. Hell.. prince Bandar is nicknamed "Bandar Bush":. The idea is to make sure some of  the money keeps getting funneled back into US/Europe while keeping favorable oil prices.

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Re: Professional Saudi Beheader talks about his trade...very cool...
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2008, 02:33:16 PM »
He's black (of African descent) you idiot...

You'll have to forgive him, Parker.  "bigbobs" ::) was high on underwear fumes when he wrote that.
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« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2008, 02:41:44 PM »
disgusting country.

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« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2008, 02:44:49 PM »
It's becasue there are so few thefts in Saudi Arabia due to the relatively harsh punishment for theft, so there are very few (but some) with one less hand.

One of my friends who visited Saudi Arabia was saying how you could forget your wallet or watch just about anywhere and it won't be missing when you come back.

soo apparently it works
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« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2008, 02:45:29 PM »
disgusting country.

Disgusting religion as well !

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« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2008, 02:47:04 PM »
soo apparently it works

In japan you can leave your wallet anywhere and it won't be touched unless someone is trying to return it to you.

No punishment necessary to deter theft.

I love my trips over there
The people are so nice

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« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2008, 02:52:25 PM »
In japan you can leave your wallet anywhere and it won't be touched unless someone is trying to return it to you.

No punishment necessary to deter theft.

I love my trips over there
The people are so nice

They fear the police in Japan for a very good reason , their confession rates are insanely high due to police brutality

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« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2008, 02:59:13 PM »
They fear the police in Japan for a very good reason , their confession rates are insanely high due to police brutality

I doubt that. Japanese police are liable for civil and criminal prosecution, and the media actively publicizes police misdeeds. The Human Rights Bureau of the Ministry of Justice solicits and investigates complaints against public officials, including police, and prefectural legislatures could summon police chiefs for questioning. There have been some isolated cases though but they are extremely rare

Donkey Kong can probably comment better on this subject since he's over there often

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« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2008, 03:02:07 PM »
Japan...the dreamt of promised land...

Still nothing like a day's work chopping heads off, eh?
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« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2008, 03:05:32 PM »
Japan...the dreamt of promised land...

Still nothing like a day's work chopping heads off, eh?

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« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2008, 03:12:49 PM »
Saudis lure many south asians into their country and the UAE does the same. Many workers are brought over thinking they're entering into a good paying working contract but the those arab #### usually don't keep up their end of the bargain and don't pay for the return ticket home; often enslaving those poor migrant workers by threatening to reveal them to the country's authorities if they should ever speak up.

I don't know how arabs are able to exert such an influence over south asia. Their Islamic garbage poisons the minds of many thousands of south asian youth everyday detering them from learning and bettering themselves.

I hope their oil runs out soon.. It's the sole reason why they're even tolerated by the likes of America and other western nations.

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« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2008, 03:19:50 PM »


I don't how arabs are able to exert such an influence over south asia. Their Islamic garbage poisons the minds of many thousand south asian youth everyday detering them from learning and bettering themselves.

Most of those who go over there aren't able to make the same wages in their home country. As you rightly pointed out - just because you were promised a certain wage in saudi it doesn't mean you'll receive it. The countries/corrupt politicians that send these poor people over there are often getting a nice kickback for looking the other way.

Being muslim won't help you over there if you're poor. One Indonesian girl domestic was raped and burnt because she asked if she could call her parents. In the end she was deported with nothing.
5 years of work and she never got paid a cent.

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« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2008, 03:21:06 PM »
Saudis lure many south asians into their country and the UAE does the same. Many workers are brought over thinking they're entering into a good paying working contract but the those arab #### usually don't keep up their end of the bargain and don't pay for the return ticket home; often enslaving those poor migrant workers by threatening to reveal them to the country's authorities if they should ever speak up.

I don't know how arabs are able to exert such an influence over south asia. Their Islamic garbage poisons the minds of many thousands of south asian youth everyday detering them from learning and bettering themselves.

I hope their oil runs out soon.. It's the sole reason why they're even tolerated by the likes of America and other western nations.

You have amazing back genetics. :)
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« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2008, 03:25:11 PM »
Most of those who go over there aren't able to make the same wages in their home country. As you rightly pointed out - just because you were promised a certain wage in saudi it doesn't mean you'll receive it. The countries/corrupt politicians that send these poor people over there are often getting a nice kickback for looking the other way.

Being muslim won't help you over there if you're poor. One Indonesian girl domestic was raped and burnt because she asked if she could call her parents. In the end she was deported with nothing.
5 years of work and she never got paid a cent.

Very sad.

Dubai, UAE is also a safe heaven for many international criminals such as arms dealers and drug lords. The UAE government doesn't extradite if you've got money.

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« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2008, 03:29:27 PM »
I also forgot to mention how Saudis kidnap young boys from poor nations and enslave them into a life of being camel jockeys.


Did I mention they also kidnap young boys to steal their kidneys for sale in the black market?

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« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2008, 03:36:26 PM »
I also forgot to mention how Saudis kidnap young boys from poor nations and enslave them into a life of being camel jockeys.


Did I mention they also kidnap young boys to steal their kidneys for sale in the black market?

Really?
 Interesting.
Nasty shit going on over there.
I thought the east euros had a lock on the bodypart market

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« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2008, 01:40:42 AM »
Interesting guy....in any event...
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Re: Professional Saudi Beheader talks about his trade...very cool...
« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2008, 06:17:54 AM »
What kind of retirement package is available to him.  What kind of bonus does he get at Christmas.  Has he ever collected unemployment.  And does he get at least a two vacation.