Gene Upshaw dead....

[Moosejay]

at only 63.

They are speaking today of how footballers of his era all die so much younger than normal folks.

makes me wonder about bb's


ALL Mr. O winners , gladly, are still alive.

Generally, not many bb deaths prematurely, amongst top-name guys

[bigmc]

i wish you would die moose

no offence

[QuakerOats]

he was such a wonderful humanitarian, he said many times that he didn't work for the retired players only the ones still playing.

[Moosejay]

i wish you would ie moose

no offence

Not cool, dude

[chester_bbb]

at only 63.

They are speaking today of how footballers of his era all die so much younger than normal folks.

makes me wonder about bb's


ALL Mr. O winners , gladly, are still alive.

Generally, not many bb deaths prematurely, amongst top-name guys

Was it from cancer from years of steroid abuse?

[Moosejay]

he was such a wonderful humanitarian, he said many times that he didn't work for the retired players only the ones still playing.

Promised to 'break' Joe Demalliuere's(sp) neck

Real 'Leader', he was, altho may he RIP

[bigmc]

Not cool, dude

calm down skippy

just messing

if you can't joke about death....

[Moosejay]

Was it from cancer from years of steroid abuse?

Rapid.

Felt ill one week ago

labored breathing

wife finally convinced him to get checked

Pancreatic Cancer....dead several days after dx

[Moosejay]

calm down skippy

just messing

if you can't joke about death....

mmmm, not something I want to joke about, bad karma

[spinnis]

i wish you would die moose

no offence

not cool at all.
There is a line..

[kcballer]

he was such a wonderful humanitarian, he said many times that he didn't work for the retired players only the ones still playing.

in all honesty, it wasn't his job to look after them.  If the current NFL players wanted to do something for them they would have asked Gene to do so.  They didn't, so he didn't.  I'm not trying to sound harsh because i believe the NFL as a whole SHOULD have something set up to help those guys who brought the league from poor wages to mega millions, BUT that wasn't just Genes fault.  The players and owners and the NFL itself deserves blame for not coming to the party.  

Besides isn't 'sharing the wealth' a communist idea?  

[bigmc]

not cool at all.
There is a line..

its an internet board

you fucking twink

[Moosejay]

not cool at all.
There is a line..

Yes

but he did not mean to 'offend' me

[Moosejay]

in all honesty, it wasn't his job to look after them.  If the current NFL players wanted to do something for them they would have asked Gene to do so.  They didn't, so he didn't.  I'm not trying to sound harsh because i believe the NFL as a whole SHOULD have something set up to help those guys who brought the league from poor wages to mega millions, BUT that wasn't just Genes fault.  The players and owners and the NFL itself deserves blame for not coming to the party.  

Besides isn't 'sharing the wealth' a communist idea?  

average NFL lineman dies in his late 50's

[QuakerOats]

there was an HBO special on that and they had Jim Otto on and the poor guy had to lean against a wall to put his pants on.

[Moosejay]

there was an HBO special on that and they had Jim Otto on and the poor guy had to lean against a wall to put his pants on.

Holy shit....didja see that? Was that the same show where they had Alex Karras and his mangled legs?

Unreal....in hindsight, NOT worth it.

What a way to go on into life with that misery and pain!

[QuakerOats]

Holy shit....didja see that? Was that the same show where they had Alex Karras and his mangled legs?

Unreal....in hindsight, NOT worth it.

What a way to go on into life with that misery and pain!

there's a guy from here in town who used to play for the St. Louis Cardinals football team named Conrad Dobler and this guy is in bad shape, bad knees and broke, wife has MS too, sad situation.

[Moosejay]

there's a guy from here in town who used to play for the St. Louis Cardinals football team named Conrad Dobler and this guy is in bad shape, bad knees and broke, wife has MS too, sad situation.

Shit, dude, he was one of my favorites....known as dirtiest man in fb years ago....do you know him personally?

[QuakerOats]

Shit, dude, he was one of my favorites....known as dirtiest man in fb years ago....do you know him personally?

no but the story is very well known here in STL, Dan Dierdorf is in pretty bad shape physically too but he can afford his medical care, the golfer Phil Mickelson did a wonderful thing and without being asked paid Dobler's daughter's college tuition in full when he heard the story.

[California Muscle]

There was already a thread on this, but RIP again.

[danielson]

RIP

[Moosejay]

no but the story is very well known here in STL, Dan Dierdorf is in pretty bad shape physically too but he can afford his medical care, the golfer Phil Mickelson did a wonderful thing and without being asked paid Dobler's daughter's college tuition in full when he heard the story.

Damn, very good of PM.....shame Dobler, man who paved way for others to make millions, can't pay his kid's schooling

[dutchmanart]

Everything I saw on HBO sports and have read about Gene Upshaw mad me think that he was a truely sorry asss human being.

They way he treated ex-NFLers who needed medical help showed me he didn't care at all about them.

He was put in place by the owners and some say he was their stooge.

A lot of people at happy today now that he's DEAD and gone.

I'm indifferent to his death.  i could care less but I do hope they start taking care of their own.  No  old pro should have to worry about where the money is going to come from to help pay their medicine and rent EVER.

[YoungBlood]

ALL Mr. O winners , gladly, are still alive.

But the guys that were their predecessors are starting to drop...Grimek, Reeves, Eder (I think?), and Ross have either died or are ailing.
But at least thus far, they've lived longer lives.
Just sayin'!!!

[Moosejay]

But the guys that were their predecessors are starting to drop...Grimek, Reeves, Eder (I think?), and Ross have either died or are ailing.
But at least thus far, they've lived longer lives.
Just sayin'!!!

Marvin Eder is still alive and well.

Agree otherwise

Oldest of remaining Mr. A's, Clancy Ross, just died....83 or 84 yrs old