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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #50 on: August 25, 2008, 04:20:18 PM »
Hahahaaaaaaahhahhaha....guy loved Jebus and rams syringes up his ass cheeks...hilarious...

Well, you have to go no further than Ronnie Coleman, a self professed Christian, who has ZERO problems abusing drugs and sleeping around. But hey, as long as you ask "god" for forgiveness, it will be okay.

I love how these people justify their actions.
HAHA, RON.....

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2008, 04:24:31 PM »
Yes, but you are also a pious Christian: I ask you again...does Jesus approve of your steroid abuse?
Jesus sat with evil people and eat with them and asked them to follow him, so would he accept after I do roids-yes, I have read from Genesis to Rev. and I don't recall hearing steroids is wrong ;)

Totally off topic, nice way of attacking someone when he has a point.

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #52 on: August 25, 2008, 04:56:20 PM »
Jesus sat with evil people and eat with them and asked them to follow him, so would he accept after I do roids-yes, I have read from Genesis to Rev. and I don't recall hearing steroids is wrong ;)

I'me an athiest but i can point out to you, why your acts are un-christian.

The bible says 2 things very clearly.,

1. Gluttony is a sin - A bodybuilding diet is gluttonus to say the least, bodybuilders enough food for 3 people.

2. Vanity is a sin - Bodybuilders spend most of the time infront of the mirror, and vanity is why everyone starts training.

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2008, 06:09:43 PM »
I'me an athiest but i can point out to you, why your acts are un-christian.

The bible says 2 things very clearly.,

1. Gluttony is a sin - A bodybuilding diet is gluttonus to say the least, bodybuilders enough food for 3 people.

2. Vanity is a sin - Bodybuilders spend most of the time infront of the mirror, and vanity is why everyone starts training.
Glad to see you have a sense of humour

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #54 on: August 25, 2008, 09:16:24 PM »


day in...day out...day in...day out....










vanity and gluttony...gluttony and vanity...vanity and gluttony










gee, it does kinda sound like bodybuilding i guess  :-\








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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2008, 09:28:18 PM »
Don't know whether drugs are to blame, but Mattarazzo isn't the only guy from his era who had/has health problems.

Mike Francois
Flex Wheeler
Don Long
Andreas Munzer
Orville Burke
Dennis Newman
Curtis Leffler
Don Youngblood
Sonny Schmidt
Mohammed Benaziza
Tom Prince

May be others...



that one Asian dude also had a massive heart attack a few years back. His name escapes me right now though

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2008, 10:11:34 PM »
I saw Matarazzo as a guest poser about 2-3 years (not sure of the exact dates) before this happen in Tallahassee, FL.  One of the first things they guys said, and I quote here, "Who wants pizzzzzzaaaa?!"  He then hit a most muscular. 

It was as much the diet as the roids imo.

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #57 on: August 25, 2008, 11:01:21 PM »
I was thinking of Kris Dim. How's he doing now?

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #58 on: August 25, 2008, 11:26:56 PM »
Lets see

On a rating scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the highest risk factor for massive heart attack

1. massive size heart. (9)
2. massive amounts of red meat (9)
3. massive amounts of Peanut Butter (9)
4. massive amounts of steroids (7)
5. massive amounts of anti/estos (9)
6. massive amounts of HGH (6)
7. massive amounts of ephedrine (10)
8. massive amounts of bodyweight (9)
9. massive amounts of stress(hot head) (10)
10. massively high blood pressure (10)

Unknowns

11. recreational drugs not being speed (2)
12. recreational drugs being speed/coke (10)
13. massive amounts of plague build up on teeth (9)
14. massive amounts of LA's TAP water (7)
15. LA's air (6)
 
 

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #59 on: August 26, 2008, 12:01:06 AM »
5lbs of red meat a day contains over 1500mg of cholesterol, then you can add any eggs he ate and that peanut butter, lol the reccomended ammount is under 500mg.

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #60 on: August 26, 2008, 12:03:59 AM »
All beef and peanut butter...
No doubt about it...

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #61 on: August 26, 2008, 12:30:44 AM »
heart problems can come from ignoring illness, when you get sick and push thorugh an ilness without seeing a doctor or finishing your meds there is a chance the virus can scar your heart, eventually that will kill you...Steroids may give the user a feeling of invincibility and he may not feel as sick as he actually is and therfore ignor his symptons...Its rare but it does happen, and many people have Congestive Heart Failure for failing to get medical attention when they were young and got sick.

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #62 on: August 26, 2008, 01:50:08 AM »
He needed Jebus...
I hate the State.

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #63 on: August 26, 2008, 02:53:30 AM »
God there really are some idiots on this fucking board!  You really believe eating a jar of peanut butter a day and all the red meat you can is going to make a 40 year old require bypass surgery and cause major heart disease?  Gimme a fucking break.  It's probably a combination of genetics AND drug use.  Drug use meaning all the fucking coke and rec drugs these guys as well as Mike have done and all the diuretics, thyroid drugs etc. they have to take to get into contest shape.  Testosterone + PB + red meat does not equal major heart disease!  And like NYCBULL said infections at an early age can lead to heart disease and valve problems later in life.  Mike's were coronary in nature but the premise still stands.  It wasn't just bodybuilding and anabolic steroids that caused his problems.  Hell for all we know Mike could have used the shit out of nolvadex or other anti-estrogens.  These are some of the most underrated drugs as far as side effects in bodybuilding.  Everyone thinks they are so safe, they are not.  Read the scientific literature. You can ingest copious amounts of cholesterol on a daily basis and it will have no bearing on your blood levels in your body.  And yes saturated fat plays a bigger role in cholesterol ratios etc.  But peanut butter is actually a lot healthier than sitting around eating fucking chips, drinking soda, and downing all the other crap most Americans eat on a daily basis like another poster said.  He could have become diabetic for all we know and not even realized it. 

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #64 on: August 26, 2008, 03:05:22 AM »
Why is only mike having problems?  ::)

Probably weak organs who were failing anyway. Steroids just made it happen sooner.

Do you really have to be so fuc*king stupid?

What he says is just exactly the point of the matter, and fact is that you never know ahead what is going to happen. When you take ANY drug, you are taking a chance, and not least with these bb:ing drugs which comes from black market. They are made by crooks, sell by crooks, used by ignorant bb:ers, and outcome from all this, is death in age of 50. Who want that to happen, who has planned that ahead. Now I take the drugs and when I am 50 years old, I die.

These guys who talk at dismissive way about these drugs, are in the business, they want your money in one way or another. They are self claimed gurus(read: real life idiots) who doesn't give a shit if die by drugs which they sell or not. HotRodMan has a nice list with pro's with drug related health problems, but try to guess how many power lifters, wrestlers or non-professional bb:ers there is to be found with similar problems. Tens of thousands just in USA, hundred of thousands in whole world.

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2008, 03:21:48 AM »
Lets see

On a rating scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the highest risk factor for massive heart attack

1. massive size heart. (9)
2. massive amounts of red meat (9)
3. massive amounts of Peanut Butter (9)
4. massive amounts of steroids (7)
5. massive amounts of anti/estos (9)
6. massive amounts of HGH (6)
7. massive amounts of ephedrine (10)
8. massive amounts of bodyweight (9)
9. massive amounts of stress(hot head) (10)
10. massively high blood pressure (10)

Unknowns

11. recreational drugs not being speed (2)
12. recreational drugs being speed/coke (10)
13. massive amounts of plague build up on teeth (9)
14. massive amounts of LA's TAP water (7)
15. LA's air (6)
 
 

So you write a list where is causes and symptoms side by side? What you try to say. It seem to me that you don't have any clue about the subject, but that's ok. You are child and you do not need to know everything, but you want to learn. So let see:

1. massive size heart. (9)
2. massive amounts of red meat (9)
3. massive amounts of Peanut Butter (9)
4. massive amounts of steroids (7)
5. massive amounts of anti/estos (9)
6. massive amounts of HGH (6)
7. massive amounts of ephedrine (10)
8. massive amounts of bodyweight (9)
9. massive amounts of stress(hot head) (10)
10. massively high blood pressure (10)

In REAL LIFE you get 1,8,9,10, if you use 4,5,6,7,2,3 in that order, so what you are saying is that he is just right. If he never has used those drugs, he probably doesn't have any heart problems. Those other counts doesn't play any role in this matter, because heavy use of rec. drugs and BB:ing career doesn't go together. Just look King and Titus =)

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #66 on: August 26, 2008, 03:26:39 AM »
From Musclemag:

Reporter:There are some guys who claim steroids arent dangerous, while others say using them is like playin roulette. Do you personally feel that steroids were a major factor in what happened to you?

Mike: I know it was the drugs that caused this to happen and I dont care what anyone says. All the gurus and self proclaimed steroid experts who try to down play the risks are talking out there asses. They have no idea what will happen to people. Nobody in my family EVER had heart problems it WAS the steroids I took. Anythime you put a artficial drug in your body your takin a chance. Most guys think nothing will ever happen to them just watch I bet we will be seeing more serious heart problem and worse when they get to there 40's.


So Hank, was Mike taking mere use or abuse? I say it was long term abuse.

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2008, 05:40:41 AM »
So Mike goes to Flex magazine and brazenly asks the fans to donate 'their' money so 'he' can pay his hospital bills....

Are you serious Mike? 

What happened to all that money you made in the '90's? 

Surely, you didn't 'blow' it all?

No medical insurance? Hmmmmmm

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #68 on: August 26, 2008, 08:48:01 AM »
ALL good points,all speculation,only mikes body knows why it ended up the way it did.if not treated he would have been dead,so there ya go.

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #69 on: August 26, 2008, 09:02:45 AM »
So Mike goes to Flex magazine and brazenly asks the fans to donate 'their' money so 'he' can pay his hospital bills....

Are you serious Mike? 

What happened to all that money you made in the '90's? 

Surely, you didn't 'blow' it all?

No medical insurance? Hmmmmmm

What a dumbass.  Mike wants his fans to pay for his stupidity.  Guy should just kill himself and then we can pitch in for his pine box.

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #70 on: August 26, 2008, 09:06:09 AM »
The basic point is that massive drug use over a period of years often cause serious premature medical problems.  Anyone arguing against that has blinders on.  Get off the massive amounts of steroids.

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #71 on: August 26, 2008, 09:10:09 AM »
I blame Mike for his own health problems.  What is up with nobody taking responsibility for any of the choices they have made.  Mike did this to himself.  Quit blaming roids for everything, however Bernie Mac and Issac Hayes' deaths I am sure were from roids because you are immune to all health problems if you dont do steroids. :P

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #72 on: August 26, 2008, 09:20:30 AM »
overdue almost anything and it is bound to have reprecussions. the casual steroid user has no worries.
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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #73 on: August 26, 2008, 09:24:46 AM »
If I were him I'd be bitter too. 

20+ years of roid consumption and he still looked like shit between his knees and his armpits.

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Re: MIKE MATARAZZO: ''I blame the roids for my health problems!''
« Reply #74 on: August 26, 2008, 10:53:00 AM »
Not to mention Arnold had heart bypass surgery at 50.
Also the heart is a muscle, when you take stuff to make muscles grow,
so does your heart.  Mike bragged about all the meat and carbs he ate.
If he overdid this with food, just think of how much gear he was on.
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