If Bush would have had his way and Social Security privatized.

[shootfighter1]

I believe social handout programs should be geared toward the sick and elderly...I do believe these are necessary.  These are the people that you are talking about decker. 
I do not believe all people are entitled to the same quality of life...hard work must be rewarded.

The welfare system needs to continue to be changed as to prevent the massive historical abuses. 

[Decker]

I believe social handout programs should be geared toward the sick and elderly...I do believe these are necessary.  These are the people that you are talking about decker. 
I do not believe all people are entitled to the same quality of life...hard work must be rewarded.

The welfare system needs to continue to be changed as to prevent the massive historical abuses. 

Yeah, there is a problem of abuse.

Welfare failures (on the dole for 2 years) (SS is not welfare) are applicable about 30+% of the total participants.  I think that number is still right.  To me, that 30+% requires a quick facts and circumstances look.  If the situation merits extended aid, then it does.  If it doesn't, then what do we do with the deadbeats?  Cut them off I guess.  That's what Welfare Reform did from the Clinton administration.

Most welfare recipients are young, white, single mothers (something like 35-40% of the total).  I don't want them on the street.

Most welfare recipients are on the dole for less than two years.

[shootfighter1]

On a quick search, this is what I came up with:

Race
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White    38.8%
Black    37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian     2.8
Other     3.4

Time on AFDC
---------------------------
Less than 7 months     19.0%
7 to 12 months         15.2
One to two years       19.3
Two to five years      26.9
Over five years        19.6
-----------------------------

So, IMO, there are too many people using welfare for too long.  I think that we should be able to regulate spending practices for people who receive welfare.  That may be difficult, but necessary IMO, to make sure these monies are used for home, utilities, education and basic needs.  Not playstations, needless material items, high priced foods & clothing, expensive cars, alcohol, cigarettes, etc. 

[OzmO]

On a quick search, this is what I came up with:

Race
--------------
White    38.8%
Black    37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian     2.8
Other     3.4

Time on AFDC
---------------------------
Less than 7 months     19.0%
7 to 12 months         15.2
One to two years       19.3
Two to five years      26.9
Over five years        19.6
-----------------------------

So, IMO, there are too many people using welfare for too long.  I think that we should be able to regulate spending practices for people who receive welfare.  That may be difficult, but necessary IMO, to make sure these monies are used for home, utilities, education and basic needs.  Not playstations, needless material items, high priced foods & clothing, expensive cars, alcohol, cigarettes, etc. 

Interesting.

Shouldn't the percentages of black people on welfare be the same ratio as there is white to black people in America?

[Hereford]

Interesting.

Shouldn't the percentages of black people on welfare be the same ratio as there is white to black people in America?

Blacks account for something like 13% of the population, yet have 37.2% of the welfare recipients. Wow.

[OzmO]

Blacks account for something like 13% of the population, yet have 37.2% of the welfare recipients. Wow.

Yes, not a good thing.

I'm sure there are many reasons that people will point to and argue as to which is the real reason.

But, I'm inclined to think, anyone can make it in America if they are willing to do what's needed and take FULL responsibility for their lives.

[Hereford]

Yes, not a good thing.

I'm sure there are many reasons that people will point to and argue as to which is the real reason.

But, I'm inclined to think, anyone can make it in America if they are willing to do what's needed and take FULL responsibility for their lives.

   You're fuucking with me.... is that it???   

 OMG



hehehe

[OzmO]

  You're fuucking with me.... is that it???   

 OMG



hehehe

??

In realty the majority of people don't gravitate to the extreme ends of the spectrum as you make them out to be.

"All or nothing"  "black or white"  "lib or neocon" approaches rarely work in the real world.

So for me to say that, is perfectly reasonable as it coincides with my views.

[Hereford]

??

In realty the majority of people don't gravitate to the extreme ends of the spectrum as you make them out to be.

"All or nothing"  "black or white"  "lib or neocon" approaches rarely work in the real world.

So for me to say that, is perfectly reasonable as it coincides with my views.

Yes, I know.

It's all good OzmO.