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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #225 on: September 03, 2008, 01:44:36 PM »
1994 at one of his worse showings mind you , this front latspread is just mindblowing

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #226 on: September 03, 2008, 01:46:02 PM »
Lets break it down into bodyparts

Chest = Ronnie
Biceps = Ronnie
Triceps = Dorian
Delts = Ronnie
Quads = Ronnie
Hams and glute tie-ins = close, but I'd give it to Dorian
Back = Ronnie
Calves = Dorian
Abs = Dorian

Ronnie wins, but barely.

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #227 on: September 03, 2008, 02:02:07 PM »
Sorry, but Ronnie's back was no where near as thick as Yates.
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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #228 on: September 03, 2008, 02:50:35 PM »
1994 at one of his worse showings mind you , this front latspread is just mindblowing

look son you have to judge the whole body, not just the lats :P

shallow chest, small arms, ugly waistline, calves too big for his quads, lack of cuts in quads

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #229 on: September 03, 2008, 02:54:52 PM »
Gotta disagree about giving Hams to Dorian:


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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #230 on: September 03, 2008, 02:55:18 PM »
look son you have to judge the whole body, not just the lats :P

shallow chest, small arms, ugly waistline, calves too big for his quads, lack of cuts in quads

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funny you typed the word judge  ;) because according to the judges he soundly defeated everyone in this and all the other poses , so despite your claims he was still dominant

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #231 on: September 03, 2008, 02:56:37 PM »
funny you typed the word judge  ;) because according to the judges he soundly defeated everyone in this and all the other poses , so despite your claims he was still dominant

you only agree with the judging when dorian wins ::)

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #232 on: September 03, 2008, 03:06:02 PM »
you only agree with the judging when dorian wins ::)

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Earl you're constantly and incorrectly prone for speaking for me and when you do its an outright lie , you really should pay more attention , I have said several times I don't think Dorian should have won in 1997 , I'm a huge Flex Wheeler fan and I agreed he should have lost in 98/99 , I didn't think Ronnie should have won in 2001 but I in no way shape of form think the contest was fixed , so Earl stop committing to posts that make you looks ignorant

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #233 on: September 03, 2008, 03:10:13 PM »
Earl you're constantly and incorrectly prone for speaking for me and when you do its an outright lie , you really should pay more attention , I have said several times I don't think Dorian should have won in 1997 , I'm a huge Flex Wheeler fan and I agreed he should have lost in 98/99 , I didn't think Ronnie should have won in 2001 but I in no way shape of form think the contest was fixed , so Earl stop committing to posts that make you looks ignorant

didn't dorian win with perfect scores in 97?

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #234 on: September 03, 2008, 03:11:07 PM »
didn't dorian win with perfect scores in 97?

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yup

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #235 on: September 03, 2008, 03:13:35 PM »

yup

so why did you say before that the judges scored him perfectly when i pointed out dorian's flaws

it was like you were saying the judges always get it right

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #236 on: September 03, 2008, 03:15:54 PM »
ND doesn't care about all dorian's flaws.

he only cares about what score the judges gave him

thats what makes him such an ignorant fan:

he blindly goes by the numbers on the page rather than the physique on stage...

which is a big difference when you compare dorian's flaws (esp. his post tear fiasco's) to his actual scores..

torn crippled bi yet perfect scores? LOL

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #237 on: September 03, 2008, 03:17:00 PM »
so why did you say before that the judges scored him perfectly when i pointed out dorian's flaws

it was like you were saying the judges always get it right

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ND always thinks the judges are 100% correct all the time.

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #238 on: September 03, 2008, 03:19:03 PM »
1994 at one of his worse showings mind you , this front latspread is just mindblowing

his lats are great and thick

but look at everything else:

poor quad cuts

zero chest cuts

no arm/delt cuts.

compared to a real lat spread, its pitiful:
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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #239 on: September 03, 2008, 04:34:17 PM »
so why did you say before that the judges scored him perfectly when i pointed out dorian's flaws

it was like you were saying the judges always get it right

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What part of I don't think Dorian should have won in 1997 did you miss? let me know?

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #240 on: September 03, 2008, 04:37:43 PM »
ND doesn't care about all dorian's flaws.

he only cares about what score the judges gave him

thats what makes him such an ignorant fan:

he blindly goes by the numbers on the page rather than the physique on stage...

which is a big difference when you compare dorian's flaws (esp. his post tear fiasco's) to his actual scores..

torn crippled bi yet perfect scores? LOL

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lol no calves and yet a perfect score? LOL Hulkster I judge the physique's I seen which is how I came to the conclusion Dorian has better balance , which I verified after the fact via an IFBB judge , the subject of conditioning is trick to ascertain via pics & vids but I've again confirmed after the fact Yates has the better conditioning of the two via an IFBB judge , you see what you want in pictures bias prevents you from seeing things objectively


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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #241 on: September 03, 2008, 04:40:01 PM »
his lats are great and thick

but look at everything else:

poor quad cuts

zero chest cuts

no arm/delt cuts.

compared to a real lat spread, its pitiful:

one can just laugh at your assessment Yates' latspread is unmatched even to this day although thats among the best front latspread I've seen from Ronnie , he looks great in that shot , reminds me of Haney

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #242 on: September 03, 2008, 05:39:58 PM »
one can just laugh at your assessment Yates' latspread is unmatched even to this day although thats among the best front latspread I've seen from Ronnie , he looks great in that shot , reminds me of Haney


and Haney beat Yates...
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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #243 on: September 03, 2008, 05:51:58 PM »
and Haney beat Yates...

And Yates beat Haney .......in the muscularity round , despite being 10 pounds lighter  ;)

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #244 on: September 03, 2008, 05:56:30 PM »
And Yates beat Haney .......in the muscularity round , despite being 10 pounds lighter  ;)

Haney won the contest.

he was like Ronnie - mass with symmetry and aesthetics aka mass with class.

unlike dorian - mass with ass..

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #245 on: September 03, 2008, 06:01:05 PM »
even dorian's famous lat spread cannot stand up to the standard that Ronnie Coleman 1999 set:

no matter what year
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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #246 on: September 03, 2008, 06:02:21 PM »
ouch.

look at the ownage in the quads, the pecs, the arms..

lats are equal.

dorian wins calves (as always, thats about it LOL)
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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #247 on: September 03, 2008, 06:10:13 PM »
even dorian's famous lat spread cannot stand up to the standard that Ronnie Coleman 1999 set:

no matter what year

lol end of story , Ronnie's front latspread that year great , Dorian's textbook flawless

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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #248 on: September 03, 2008, 06:12:49 PM »
Haney won the contest.

he was like Ronnie - mass with symmetry and aesthetics aka mass with class.

unlike dorian - mass with ass..

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I always laugh when you type aesthetics , where was he on that list again?


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Re: Dorian Yates at his best VS Ronnie Coleman at his best : who would win?
« Reply #249 on: September 03, 2008, 06:16:29 PM »
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