wrong, all you did was refer me to another judging criteria. It would be akin to you asking me how Ronnie has better conditioning and me saying "the same way he has better symmetry." You haven't provided an explanation for how the judges determine balance. What objective criteria do they use? 
I'll let this comment speak for itself. Anyone who's been following our discussion knows this is a lie.
yes it is. Although bodybuilding has a set of criteria to make the sport more objective for everyone to follow, it's still a subjective sport. Who's to say a difference of 1-2% body fat and water levels outweighs a 30 lbs difference in size? Everyone attaches their own importance to each criteria.
wrong, all you did was refer me to another judging criteria. It would be akin to you asking me how Ronnie has better conditioning and me saying "the same way he has better symmetry." You haven't provided an explanation for how the judges determine balance. What objective criteria do they use?
Balance - A term referring to an even relationship of body proportions in a man's physique. Perfectly balanced phys-ical proportions are a much-sought-after trait among competitive bodybuildersget it?
I'll let this comment speak for itself. Anyone who's been following our discussion knows this is a lie.
you're so full of nonsense I never said NONE of those quotes counts thats a LIE I take them for what they are subjective I posted the quote you clung onto for fear life , so much for me running from them
yes it is. Although bodybuilding has a set of criteria to make the sport more objective for everyone to follow, it's still a subjective sport. Who's to say a difference of 1-2% body fat and water levels outweighs a 30 lbs difference in size? Everyone attaches their own importance to each criteria.
its NOT a subjective sport especially when 13 individual judges all come to the same conclusion , there is a set of criterion they must adhere to , they don't sit around and debate among themselves who might meet that criteria the best
and you're always downplaying the massive advantage Yates has in density & hardness especially compared to Ronnie 2003 , I always said he may have matched Yates for that same bone dry & rock hard look only at his lightest for you to claim its 1-2% is laughable , 1-2% isn't even accurate from 98-99 nevermind to 2003 and 30 extra pounds of what? dense hard , dry muscle , NO at the expense of what? balance & proportions and conditioning
and NO everyone doesn't attach their own importance to each criteria , all rounds are physique rounds and more often than not what will swing a contest in favor of one competitor when all other things are equal is conditioning which along with balance & proportion Yates has a clear advantage in
and Ronnie 2003 does NOT have a 30 pound muscle advantage on Yates at his best , he's 269 pounds at his best that would be an 18 pound advantage and it isn't 18 pounds of dense dry muscle either , entertaining Dorian's conditioning at 269 pounds is at the least equal to that of Ronnie 2003 he still has a clear advantage in muscle balance & proportion , and posing & presentation and he's more complete he would still win based on all rounds are physique rounds , Ronnie 2003 wouldn't beat Dorian at 269 pounds or even Yates 93/95
