Greatest boxer world has ever seen is set to legitimise sport again!

[James Phoenix]

A famed and feared amateur boxer, Povetkin´s career has been second to none. He has won two European and one World title and also triumphed at the 2004 Olympics in Athens. The Tsar is now eagerly awaiting the highly-anticipated showdown with Klitschko. In order to set up the world title clash, he needed less fights than the legendary Mike Tyson, who became the youngest champ of all time in his 27th bout.

http://alexander-povetkin.com/englisch/index.html

He may not look like much, but Alexsander Povetkin is a super-heavyweight gold medalist with an iron chin and undefeated record.

On his impending fight with the much taller Klitschko:
“I am waiting for you, Klitschko, you can´t hide any longer.”

[nicky.smth]

what is all this gibberish?

[swilkins1984]

Sorry I don't speak Italian. 

[Slapper]

Great, another guy whose last name we can't pronounce.

[TPSRPBBW-fan1]

for super heavyweights, i've never seen any that look like boxers, they all look like slightly overweight guys.  not that he's not big, but if i saw him in the street i'd never think he was a world champion boxer.  do they just not do any sort of bulking up?

[bodybuilder1234]

Looks very good but I worry about his defence, how would he do against the current World champion I wonder?

Also, his brother has come out of retirement to fight Sam Peter.....Vitali is better than Wlad

[monstercalves]

hhhaaaaa comparing him to TYSON is laughable....

he does look quite good though... and as BB1234 said .... need to wait and see if this guy can take a hit and go the distance

and the title.........

greatest boxer the world has ever seen............lol far from it   

[manimalis_maximus]

Ridiculous. He's not even the best heavyweight right now. The greatest boxer the world has ever seen is Sugar Ray Robinson. You know nothing about boxing

[monstercalves]

Ridiculous. He's not even the best heavyweight right now. The greatest boxer the world has ever seen is Sugar Ray Robinson. You know nothing about boxing

haha yep Robinson is right up there... hes top 5 for me... 

have to laugh at "greatest boxer the world has EVER seen" again....... LOOOOOL

[James Phoenix]

Good points about his defence.

His fighting style is reminiscent of Rocky Marciano.

As far as amateur records go, shit, you can't get much better than Povetkin.

He's a 4-TIME olympic gold medalist in the Super-Heavies.

P.S. - Tyson is highly overrated in the grand scheme of things.

[bodybuilder1234]

Good points about his defence.

His fighting style is reminiscent of Rocky Marciano.

As far as armature records go, you can't get much better than Povetkin.

He's a 4-TIME olympic gold medalist in the Super-Heavies.

P.S. - Tyson is highly overrated in the grand scheme of things.

I agree with this but Tyson would still beat that guy nevertheless

[James Phoenix]

I agree with this but Tyson would still beat that guy nevertheless

I agree that it would be an exciting fight.

It's easy to romanticise the old greats.

[manimalis_maximus]

His style is not even close to Marciano's at all. Povetkin has the typical pawing jab eastern-euro style with slow plodding footowork. Marciano was a swarmer with huge heart. Povetkin is garbage imo. He's a decent fighter but he went 'life and death' with Eddie Chambers. Wladimir would defeat him with ease.

[monstercalves]

Good points about his defence.

His fighting style is reminiscent of Rocky Marciano.

As far as amateur records go, shit, you can't get much better than Povetkin.

He's a 4-TIME olympic gold medalist in the Super-Heavies.

P.S. - Tyson is highly overrated in the grand scheme of things.

i disagree..... among people who actually know boxing , Tyson is not overrated nor underrated

Tyson is one of thee best KO artists ever and also one of the thee best fighters ever

also the fastest heavyweight ever....

[James Phoenix]

His style is not even close to Marciano's at all. Povetkin has the typical pawing jab eastern-euro style with slow plodding footowork. Marciano was a swarmer with huge heart. Povetkin is garbage imo. He's a decent fighter but he went 'life and death' with Eddie Chambers. Wladimir would defeat him with ease.

Yeah, he's garbage, yet he's won the gold medal in boxing four times.

He's only started competing as a serious professional somewhat recently.

Time will tell how good he really is; judging from what I've seen, he's amazing.

Doesn't look plodding or slow at all; this guy goes in for the kill.

[manimalis_maximus]

Getting gold in the current amateur system means fuck all. It's pretty much "fistic fencing" with horrible judging. Povetkin is talented but he will fail when matched against Wlad and others.

And also, educate yourself. Here is the Ring Magazine's list of the 80 greatest fighters of the past 80 years. Please never mention Povetkin being "the best ever" again. I do have some quibbles with this list though. Sam Langford, and Charley Burley should be ranked much higher, and Hearns should definetly be ranked above Galaxy who is an overrated asian fighter. But besides that it is a fairly solid list.

   1. Sugar Ray Robinson
   2. Henry Armstrong
   3. Muhammad Ali
   4. Joe Louis
   5. Roberto Duran
   6. Willie Pep
   7. Harry Greb
   8. Benny Leonard
   9. Sugar Ray Leonard
  10. Pernell Whitaker
  11. Carlos Monzon
  12. Rocky Marciano
  13. Ezzard Charles
  14. Archie Moore
  15. Sandy Saddler
  16. Jack Dempsey
  17. Marvin Hagler
  18. Julio César Chávez
  19. Eder Jofre
  20. Alexis Arguello
  21. Barney Ross
  22. Evander Holyfield
  23. Ike Williams
  24. Salvador Sanchez
  25. George Foreman
  26. Kid Gavilan
  27. Larry Holmes
  28. Mickey Walker
  29. Ruben Olivares
  30. Gene Tunney
  31. Dick Tiger
  32. Fighting Harada
  33. Emile Griffith
  34. Tony Canzoneri
  35. Aaron Pryor
  36. Pascual Perez
  37. Miguel Canto
  38. Manuel Ortiz
  39. Charley Burley
  40. Carmen Basilio
  41. Michael Spinks
  42. Joe Frazier
  43. Khaosai Galaxy
  44. Roy Jones, Jr.
  45. Tiger Flowers
  46. Panama Al Brown
  47. Kid Chocolate
  48. Joe Brown
  49. Tommy Loughran
  50. Bernard Hopkins
  51. Felix Trinidad
  52. Jake LaMotta
  53. Lennox Lewis
  54. Wilfredo Gómez
  55. Bob Foster
  56. Jose Napoles
  57. Billy Conn
  58. Jimmy McLarnin
  59. Pancho Villa
  60. Carlos Ortiz
  61. Bob Montgomery
  62. Freddie Miller
  63. Benny Lynch
  64. Beau Jack
  65. Azumah Nelson
  66. Eusebio Pedroza
  67. Thomas Hearns
  68. Wilfred Benitez
  69. Antonio Cervantes
  70. Ricardo Lopez
  71. Sonny Liston
  72. Mike Tyson
  73. Vicente Saldivar
  74. Gene Fullmer
  75. Oscar de la Hoya
  76. Carlos Zarate
  77. Marcel Cerdan
  78. Flash Elorde
  79. Mike McCallum
  80. Harold Johnson

[James Phoenix]

i disagree..... among people who actually know boxing , Tyson is not overrated nor underrated

Tyson is one of thee best KO artists ever and also one of the thee best fighters ever

also the fastest heavyweight ever....

No, wrong; people that really know boxing can't name one real competitor Mike Tyson beat.

Anyone can be a "KO ARTIST" fighting a bunch of "tomato cans" (Mike's own words);
shit, Butterbean made a career out of it.

[manimalis_maximus]

Also I'd have Monzon in at least the top 10. Him or Harry Greb are the greatest middleweights of all time.

[manimalis_maximus]

Tyson was not one of the best ko artists. He had excellent power but he wasn't one of the greatest punches pound 4 pound that lived.

[James Phoenix]

Getting gold in the current amateur system means fuck all. It's pretty much "fistic fencing" with horrible judging. Povetkin is talented but he will fail when matched against Wlad and others.

And also, educate yourself. Here is the Ring Magazine's list of the 80 greatest fighters of the past 80 years. Please never mention Povetkin being "the best ever" again. I do have some quibbles with this list though. Sam Langford, and Charley Burley should be ranked much higher, and Hearns should definetly be ranked above Galaxy who is an overrated asian fighter. But besides that it is a fairly solid list.

   1. Sugar Ray Robinson
   2. Henry Armstrong
   3. Muhammad Ali
   4. Joe Louis
   5. Roberto Duran
   6. Willie Pep
   7. Harry Greb
   8. Benny Leonard
   9. Sugar Ray Leonard
  10. Pernell Whitaker
  11. Carlos Monzon
  12. Rocky Marciano
  13. Ezzard Charles
  14. Archie Moore
  15. Sandy Saddler
  16. Jack Dempsey
  17. Marvin Hagler
  18. Julio César Chávez
  19. Eder Jofre
  20. Alexis Arguello
  21. Barney Ross
  22. Evander Holyfield
  23. Ike Williams
  24. Salvador Sanchez
  25. George Foreman
  26. Kid Gavilan
  27. Larry Holmes
  28. Mickey Walker
  29. Ruben Olivares
  30. Gene Tunney
  31. Dick Tiger
  32. Fighting Harada
  33. Emile Griffith
  34. Tony Canzoneri
  35. Aaron Pryor
  36. Pascual Perez
  37. Miguel Canto
  38. Manuel Ortiz
  39. Charley Burley
  40. Carmen Basilio
  41. Michael Spinks
  42. Joe Frazier
  43. Khaosai Galaxy
  44. Roy Jones, Jr.
  45. Tiger Flowers
  46. Panama Al Brown
  47. Kid Chocolate
  48. Joe Brown
  49. Tommy Loughran
  50. Bernard Hopkins
  51. Felix Trinidad
  52. Jake LaMotta
  53. Lennox Lewis
  54. Wilfredo Gómez
  55. Bob Foster
  56. Jose Napoles
  57. Billy Conn
  58. Jimmy McLarnin
  59. Pancho Villa
  60. Carlos Ortiz
  61. Bob Montgomery
  62. Freddie Miller
  63. Benny Lynch
  64. Beau Jack
  65. Azumah Nelson
  66. Eusebio Pedroza
  67. Thomas Hearns
  68. Wilfred Benitez
  69. Antonio Cervantes
  70. Ricardo Lopez
  71. Sonny Liston
  72. Mike Tyson
  73. Vicente Saldivar
  74. Gene Fullmer
  75. Oscar de la Hoya
  76. Carlos Zarate
  77. Marcel Cerdan
  78. Flash Elorde
  79. Mike McCallum
  80. Harold Johnson

The Olympic judging is horrible?

Compared to what...

professional boxing judging?

hahahaha.

[James Phoenix]

Getting gold in the current amateur system means fuck all...

And also, educate yourself.

[manimalis_maximus]

Did you even watch the Olympics? The scoring changed after Roy Jones JR was blatantly robbed of a gold medal in Korea. Now the scoring is based on judges sitting at ringside who hit a button every time they see a punch land using the white area of the glove. 3 of the 5 judges have to hit the button within 1 second for the punch to be scored. This leads to a piss-poor throw a jab and run style. The amateur system has really went downhill and does nothing to prepare fighters for the pro's. Professional judging as bad as it may seem at times at least has some credence with the 10 point must system.

[monstercalves]

Tyson was not one of the best ko artists. He had excellent power but he wasn't one of the greatest punches pound 4 pound that lived.

tyson was of course one of the best KO artists ever... to say otherwise would be stupid

i agree that he was not the hardest hitter pound for pound

[manimalis_maximus]

He was a hard hitting heavyweight. But guys like Earnie Shavers, Joe Louis, George Foreman, and even Dempsey would have to be ranked above him as ko artists imo. That still leaves him with pretty damn good company though

[James Phoenix]

Tyson's infamy is bigger and badder than his boxing talent;

indeed, many promoters have gotten rich pushing his street-tough "KO artist" image.

The sad thing is, once faced with real competition in the form of one Evander Holyfield,

he was exposed for being the overrated hype machine he was.

No need to mention his embarrassing loss to Buster "never-heard-of-him-prior" Douglas.

Since Tyson has not even the skill to beat a real Olympic Bronze medalist like Evander,

he doesn't deserve mention in a thread about real Olympic GOLD medalist like Povetkin.