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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2008, 11:12:55 PM »
I find myself getting around 30-80 grams of fiber at times!


One can imagine what happens!

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2008, 11:14:19 PM »
the GHB is working...

I'll debate you fine lads tommarrow...

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2008, 11:15:23 PM »
Now check this out.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/custom/658852/2


You see my ignorant friends, my diet is perfect.
I love fruit eat it by the ton everyday, but for comparison sake, take my lovely Snickers Bars (Above from the quoted post) and compare them with Apples so you can get an idea of what I mean when I say my diet will PWN yours: http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/fruits-and-fruit-juices/1809/0?quantity=2.79

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2008, 11:16:21 PM »
the GHB is working...

I'll debate you fine lads tommarrow...

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There is nothing to debate my friend.  You are simply ignorant of the subject is all, as most are.  You are ruled by fear, myth and misconception.  Humans are good at owing their lives to those 3 devils.



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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2008, 11:21:27 PM »
1. I prefer a higher intake up to 1 gram per lb as I tend to lift VERY heavy and my workouts are taxing. Brief, but taxing.  .5 is sufficient in most regards.  I also love to cook many different things.

2. Right on about the USRDA!  Easy to meet when you eat a lot of Fruits!

I take in 1g/lb or more also. It's quite easy to do and won't do any harm.

I'll refine the list a bit, if I may. I always strife for the simplest written form possible. I also resorted the list a bit:

Basic Principles:

- A minimum daily protein intake (1g/lb bodyweight is sufficient for everyone),
- a variety of food good enough for proper nutrient intake (e.g. USRDA which can easily be met),
- a deficiency of calories which leads to 1-3 lbs of weight loss per week,
- hard weight training at least 3 times a week.

Factors of minimal, no, or even negative influence are:

- the ratio of macro nutrients other than defined by the rules above,
- abandonment of alcohol,
- intake of "supplements",
- proper spacing of meals during the day,
- cardio training.

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2008, 11:22:32 PM »
The majority of you do not even eat fruit!

Its hilarious how horrible your diets are.  

I will be more than happy to track YOUR diet and compare it to mine.

I bet you ANYTHING, nutrient wise, mine will ALWAYS come out ahead of yours and I eat whatever I feel like eating.

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2008, 11:24:51 PM »
I take in 1g/lb or more also. It's quite easy to do and won't do any harm.

I'll refine the list a bit, if I may. I always strife for the simplest written form possible. I also resorted the list a bit:

Basic Principles:

- A minimum daily protein intake (1g/lb bodyweight is sufficient for everyone),
- a variety of food good enough for proper nutrient intake (e.g. USRDA which can easily be met),
- a deficiency of calories which leads to 1-3 lbs of weight loss per week,
- hard weight training at least 3 times a week.

Factors of minimal, no, or even negative influence are:

- the ratio of macro nutrients other than defined by the rules above,
- abandonment of alcohol,
- intake of "supplements",
- proper spacing of meals during the day,
- cardio training.

Perfect!

Supplements are also NOT necessary but they can make it easier to meet the protein requirement.  This should be obvious to all, but never underestimate the stupidity of humans so I figure it needed to be pointed out.

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2008, 11:33:14 PM »
I`m not even done eating today and I have already EXCEEDED what the majority of you do not meet.


Vitamin A
~4451
~89%

Vitamin C
~145
mg
~241%
Vitamin D
~80.0

Vitamin E (Alpha Tocopherol)
~40.5
mg
~203%

 
Thiamin
~3.0
mg
~203%

Riboflavin
~3.5
mg
~204%
Niacin
~40.3
mg
~201%
Vitamin B6
~4.1
mg
~206%

Folate
~808
mcg
~202%

Vitamin B12
~12.0
mcg
~200%
Pantothenic Acid
~20.2
mg
~202%
Choline
~9.5
mg

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2008, 11:34:35 PM »
My Cholesterol for the day..................... Get ready for it...................... ...............

BAM!


Cholesterol
~167
mg
~56%


Lower than ANY of yours.  Got to love my Whoppers!

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2008, 11:37:11 PM »
I will TRACK ANYONE`S Diet for them and compare it to mine daily if you like!

ANYONE!

I am Positive mine will always trump for health and all requirements!

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2008, 11:42:15 PM »
Perfect!

Supplements are also NOT necessary but they can make it easier to meet the protein requirement.  This should be obvious to all, but never underestimate the stupidity of humans so I figure it needed to be pointed out.

Haha, I take 100g of protein in powder form, just to be sure to meet the requirements. This way I can eat my fruit, ice cream bars, and tripple-whoppers without worry.  :D

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2008, 11:45:39 PM »
So hypothetically, following the Adonis principles a 200lb bodybuilder could eat 200 grams of protein in one meal and be covered for the whole 24 hrs? 

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2008, 11:45:46 PM »
I like your style Adam :)
You have developed a system that works and you apply it, can't ask for anything more.

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2008, 11:48:01 PM »
So hypothetically, following the Adonis principles a 200lb bodybuilder could eat 200 grams of protein in one meal and be covered for the whole 24 hrs? 

Not in one sitting, at least I couldn't stomach it. But let's say in three portions, probably yes. I can only speak for Natties, though.

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2008, 11:53:42 PM »
Haha, I take 100g of protein in powder form, just to be sure to meet the requirements. This way I can eat my fruit, ice cream bars, and tripple-whoppers without worry.  :D
Yeep Yeep!

Your abs are looking great Wavelength!


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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2008, 11:57:34 PM »
Yeep Yeep!

Your abs are looking great Wavelength!

Thanks! I'm following teh principles until super-rippedness this time. I'm about halfway there.  8)
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« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2008, 11:59:34 PM »
Thanks! I'm following teh principles until super-rippedness this time. I'm about halfway there.  8)
The avatar is from a few days ago.
Yah I am doing a ripper at the moment too! lol

Mr Getbig should prove to be a breeze.  I probably will go beyond even that point for a bit.

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #42 on: September 03, 2008, 12:01:42 AM »
The Adonis Principles aren't for natural lifters.

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2008, 12:15:42 AM »
The Adonis Principles aren't for natural lifters.
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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2008, 12:32:46 AM »
The majority of you do not even eat fruit!

Its hilarious how horrible your diets are.  

I will be more than happy to track YOUR diet and compare it to mine.

I bet you ANYTHING, nutrient wise, mine will ALWAYS come out ahead of yours and I eat whatever I feel like eating.

You're a good marketer, but the fact remains that your diet plan still involves eating a specific amount of the right nutrients and food groups in proportion to your bodyweight, metabolism and amount of daily exercise you're doing.

You "eat whatever you want" because you know what to eat. Someone looking at The Adonis Principles and going "Hey, I can eat whatever I want" is naive to the finer points that are often left out of the description of The Adonis Principles.

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2008, 03:16:58 AM »
A calorie is a calorie in the physical sense.

In a biological sense however, a calorie is not a calorie (if the sources are different). Their energy potential is equal, the biological processes involved however makes them not equal.

The biological pathways for 1000 cal of Dextrose != 1000 cal of whole grain wheat.

FACTS.
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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2008, 03:23:55 AM »
1.Lie about your lifts.

2.Lie about your supposed girlfriend.

3.Lie about your financial status.

4.Copy and paste various stupid articles to getbig and claim you are really smart.

5.Grow 747 size ears.

6.Be amongst the world top 5% of ugly people.

I can go on but you get the picture.

that about sums it up pretty good.

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2008, 03:36:05 AM »
I bet you ANYTHING, nutrient wise, mine will ALWAYS come out ahead of yours and I eat whatever I feel like eating.

This is a logical fallacy, and a stupid assertion.

How will your diet ALWAYS come out ahead of "anyone's" if you're going off the whim of your desires i.e. "eat whatever I feel like eating". Are you saying that if someone is meticulous with their diet and you eat whatever you want your diet will come out "ahead"? For the simple reason you're you, your diet is better? ??? ::)

It might come ahead because you don't actually eat whatever you feel like eating. You eat what keeps you between the nutrient boundaries.
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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2008, 03:45:54 AM »
This is a logical fallacy, and a stupid assertion.

How will your diet ALWAYS come out ahead of "anyone's" if you're going off the whim of your desires i.e. "eat whatever I feel like eating". Are you saying that if someone is meticulous with their diet and you eat whatever you want your diet will come out "ahead"? For the simple reason you're you, your diet is better? ??? ::)

It might come ahead because you don't actually eat whatever you feel like eating. You eat what keeps you between the nutrient boundaries.

It's useless to argue with TA, he will not listen.

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Re: Adonis Principles
« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2008, 03:50:32 AM »
It's useless to argue with TA, he will not listen.

I'm not concerned with him listening, but the blatant lies and deceit are worth debunking.

I'm not sure what wavelengths profession is, but I assume from what I thought of his intellect he wouldn't subscribe to these fallacies.
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