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Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic
hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.

The two most important events in all of history were the invention of
beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two
distinct subgroups:

1. Liberals
2. Conservatives.

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery.
That's how villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men or wussies. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

Over the years Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth; the elephant.

Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

A few modern liberals like Mexican light beer (with lime added), but
most prefer a chilled glass of Sauvignon Blanc, with passion fruit and
kiwi aromas which are marked by grassy notes, then rounded out on the mid palate by peach flavors. Crisp and refreshing, with a hint of chalky minerality on the finish; or Perrier bottled water. They eat raw fish but dislike beef. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal
fare.

Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have
higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, Ivy League professors, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated-hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink Sam Adams, Harpoon IPA or Yuengling Lager. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively.

Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers
and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2008, 08:40:23 AM »
What a funny conceit that was.

It does show that the elitest propaganda still works.

It's the same old rightwing saw that's been around for decades and decades:

Conservatives are the world's producers and

Liberals are freeloaders.

This is a dichotomy imposed on reality by frustrated rightwingers bankrupt of any real ideas. 

Liberals are traitors, soft on crime, physically weak, psychologically effeminate and freeloaders...commies too.

That grandiose sentiment is the earnest point masqueraded as humor in this thread.

It's also utter mind control propaganda but at this point, who's counting?

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2008, 10:01:21 AM »
What a funny conceit that was.

It does show that the elitest propaganda still works.

It's the same old rightwing saw that's been around for decades and decades:

Conservatives are the world's producers and

Liberals are freeloaders.

This is a dichotomy imposed on reality by frustrated rightwingers bankrupt of any real ideas. 

Liberals are traitors, soft on crime, physically weak, psychologically effeminate and freeloaders...commies too.

That grandiose sentiment is the earnest point masqueraded as humor in this thread.

It's also utter mind control propaganda but at this point, who's counting?

 8)

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2008, 10:46:05 AM »
I would hate to know how much Decker was bullied in school

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2008, 11:26:25 AM »
I would hate to know how much Decker was bullied in school

you'll learn one day. Not today but someday.

Nothin wrong with Deckers post.

you are being played.

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2008, 11:33:28 AM »
you are being played.


Oh so your still Neo living in the Matrix huh? Douche, haha

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2008, 11:36:51 AM »

This is a dichotomy imposed on reality by frustrated rightwingers bankrupt of any real ideas. 


The Democrat party is intellectually bankrupt.  

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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2008, 06:47:58 AM »
The Democrat party is intellectually bankrupt.  
Great point!

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2008, 09:00:00 AM »
Decker= Lost his virginity to his first girlfriend via a concrete strap on and a bottle of maple syrup.

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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2008, 09:17:48 AM »
Decker= Lost his virginity to his first girlfriend via a concrete strap on and a bottle of maple syrup.
Get lost Eldon.

Do you like me slapping you around in these chitchat rooms?  What're you some sort of masochistic simpering shemale?

Why don't you go change into your Ozark profile and lurk in the sex forum instead of interfering in this forum.

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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2008, 09:29:01 AM »
Decker are you still whining that im someone else? Geez man, give it up. This can be cleared up in 10 second by having any moderator look into the matter. I invite you to do so, because it will be funny when you are made to look like an even bigger jackass than you already are.

Take a chill pill champ.

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2008, 09:44:14 AM »
On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs - Dave Grossman
By LTC (RET) Dave Grossman, author of "On Killing."
Honor never grows old, and honor rejoices the heart of age. It does so because honor is, finally, about defending those noble and worthy things that deserve defending, even if it comes at a high cost. In our time, that may mean social disapproval, public scorn, hardship, persecution, or as always,even death itself. The question remains: What is worth defending? What is worth dying for? What is worth living for? - William J. Bennett - in a lecture to the United States Naval Academy November 24, 1997

One Vietnam veteran, an old retired colonel, once said this to me:

"Most of the people in our society are sheep. They are kind, gentle, productive creatures who can only hurt one another by accident." This is true. Remember, the murder rate is six per 100,000 per year, and the aggravated assault rate is four per 1,000 per year. What this means is that the vast majority of Americans are not inclined to hurt one another. Some estimates say that two million Americans are victims of violent crimes every year, a tragic, staggering number, perhaps an all-time record rate of violent crime. But there are almost 300 million Americans, which means that the odds of being a victim of violent crime is considerably less than one in a hundred on any given year. Furthermore, since many violent crimes are committed by repeat offenders, the actual number of violent citizens is considerably less than two million.

Thus there is a paradox, and we must grasp both ends of the situation: We may well be in the most violent times in history, but violence is still remarkably rare. This is because most citizens are kind, decent people who are not capable of hurting each other, except by accident or under extreme provocation. They are sheep.

I mean nothing negative by calling them sheep. To me it is like the pretty, blue robin's egg. Inside it is soft and gooey but someday it will grow into something wonderful. But the egg cannot survive without its hard blue shell. Police officers, soldiers, and other warriors are like that shell, and someday the civilization they protect will grow into something wonderful.? For now, though, they need warriors to protect them from the predators.

"Then there are the wolves," the old war veteran said, "and the wolves feed on the sheep without mercy." Do you believe there are wolves out there who will feed on the flock without mercy? You better believe it. There are evil men in this world and they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you forget that or pretend it is not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety in denial.

"Then there are sheepdogs," he went on, "and I'm a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and confront the wolf."

If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen, a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath, a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? What do you have then? A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed

Let me expand on this old soldier's excellent model of the sheep, wolves, and sheepdogs. We know that the sheep live in denial, that is what makes them sheep. They do not want to believe that there is evil in the world. They can accept the fact that fires can happen, which is why they want fire extinguishers, fire sprinklers, fire alarms and fire exits throughout their kids' schools.

But many of them are outraged at the idea of putting an armed police officer in their kid's school. Our children are thousands of times more likely to be killed or seriously injured by school violence than fire, but the sheep's only response to the possibility of violence is denial. The idea of someone coming to kill or harm their child is just too hard, and so they chose the path of denial.

The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, can not and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheep dog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.

Still, the sheepdog disturbs the sheep. He is a constant reminder that there are wolves in the land. They would prefer that he didn't tell them where to go, or give them traffic tickets, or stand at the ready in our airports in camouflage fatigues holding an M-16. The sheep would much rather have the sheepdog cash in his fangs, spray paint himself white, and go, "Baa."

Until the wolf shows up. Then the entire flock tries desperately to hide behind one lonely sheepdog.

The students, the victims, at Columbine High School were big, tough high school students, and under ordinary circumstances they would not have had the time of day for a police officer. They were not bad kids; they just had nothing to say to a cop. When the school was under attack, however, and SWAT teams were clearing the rooms and hallways, the officers had to physically peel those clinging, sobbing kids off of them. This is how the little lambs feel about their sheepdog when the wolf is at the door.

Look at what happened after September 11, 2001 when the wolf pounded hard on the door. Remember how America, more than ever before, felt differently about their law enforcement officers and military personnel? Remember how many times you heard the word hero?

Understand that there is nothing morally superior about being a sheepdog; it is just what you choose to be. Also understand that a sheepdog is a funny critter: He is always sniffing around out on the perimeter, checking the breeze, barking at things that go bump in the night, and yearning for a righteous battle. That is, the young sheepdogs yearn for a righteous battle. The old sheepdogs are a little older and wiser, but they move to the sound of the guns when needed right along with the young ones.

Here is how the sheep and the sheepdog think differently. The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day. After the attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens in America said, "Thank God I wasn't on one of those planes." The sheepdogs, the warriors, said, "Dear God, I wish I could have been on one of those planes. Maybe I could have made a difference." When you are truly transformed into a warrior and have truly invested yourself into warriorhood, you want to be there. You want to be able to make a difference.

There is nothing morally superior about the sheepdog, the warrior, but he does have one real advantage. Only one. And that is that he is able to survive and thrive in an environment that destroys 98 percent of the population. There was research conducted a few years ago with individuals convicted of violent crimes. These cons were in prison for serious, predatory crimes of violence: assaults, murders and killing law enforcement officers. The vast majority said that they specifically targeted victims by body language: slumped walk, passive behavior and lack of awareness. They chose their victims like big cats do in Africa, when they select one out of the herd that is least able to protect itself.

Some people may be destined to be sheep and others might be genetically primed to be wolves or sheepdogs. But I believe that most people can choose which one they want to be, and I'm proud to say that more and more Americans are choosing to become sheepdogs.

Seven months after the attack on September 11, 2001, Todd Beamer was honored in his hometown of Cranbury, New Jersey. Todd, as you recall, was the man on Flight 93 over Pennsylvania who called on his cell phone to alert an operator from United Airlines about the hijacking. When he learned of the other three passenger planes that had been used as weapons, Todd dropped his phone and uttered the words, "Let's roll," which authorities believe was a signal to the other passengers to confront the terrorist hijackers. In one hour, a transformation occurred among the passengers - athletes, business people and parents. -- from sheep to sheepdogs and together they fought the wolves, ultimately saving an unknown number of lives on the ground.

There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. - Edmund Burke

Here is the point I like to emphasize, especially to the thousands of police officers and soldiers I speak to each year. In nature the sheep, real sheep, are born as sheep. Sheepdogs are born that way, and so are wolves. They didn't have a choice. But you are not a critter. As a human being, you can be whatever you want to be. It is a conscious, moral decision.

If you want to be a sheep, then you can be a sheep and that is okay, but you must understand the price you pay. When the wolf comes, you and your loved ones are going to die if there is not a sheepdog there to protect you. If you want to be a wolf, you can be one, but the sheepdogs are going to hunt you down and you will never have rest, safety, trust or love. But if you want to be a sheepdog and walk the warrior's path, then you must make a conscious and moral decision every day to dedicate, equip and prepare yourself to thrive in that toxic, corrosive moment when the wolf comes knocking at the door.

For example, many officers carry their weapons in church.? They are well concealed in ankle holsters, shoulder holsters or inside-the-belt holsters tucked into the small of their backs.? Anytime you go to some form of religious service, there is a very good chance that a police officer in your congregation is carrying. You will never know if there is such an individual in your place of worship, until the wolf appears to massacre you and your loved ones.

I was training a group of police officers in Texas, and during the break, one officer asked his friend if he carried his weapon in church. The other cop replied, "I will never be caught without my gun in church." I asked why he felt so strongly about this, and he told me about a cop he knew who was at a church massacre in Ft. Worth, Texas in 1999. In that incident, a mentally deranged individual came into the church and opened fire, gunning down fourteen people. He said that officer believed he could have saved every life that day if he had been carrying his gun. His own son was shot, and all he could do was throw himself on the boy's body and wait to die. That cop looked me in the eye and said, "Do you have any idea how hard it would be to live with yourself after that?"

Some individuals would be horrified if they knew this police officer was carrying a weapon in church. They might call him paranoid and would probably scorn him. Yet these same individuals would be enraged and would call for "heads to roll" if they found out that the airbags in their cars were defective, or that the fire extinguisher and fire sprinklers in their kids' school did not work. They can accept the fact that fires and traffic accidents can happen and that there must be safeguards against them.

Their only response to the wolf, though, is denial, and all too often their response to the sheepdog is scorn and disdain. But the sheepdog quietly asks himself, "Do you have and idea how hard it would be to live with yourself if your loved ones attacked and killed, and you had to stand there helplessly because you were unprepared for that day?"

It is denial that turns people into sheep. Sheep are psychologically destroyed by combat because their only defense is denial, which is counterproductive and destructive, resulting in fear, helplessness and horror when the wolf shows up.

Denial kills you twice. It kills you once, at your moment of truth when you are not physically prepared: you didn't bring your gun, you didn't train. Your only defense was wishful thinking. Hope is not a strategy. Denial kills you a second time because even if you do physically survive, you are psychologically shattered by your fear helplessness and horror at your moment of truth.

Gavin de Becker puts it like this in Fear Less, his superb post-9/11 book, which should be required reading for anyone trying to come to terms with our current world situation: "...denial can be seductive, but it has an insidious side effect. For all the peace of mind deniers think they get by saying it isn't so, the fall they take when faced with new violence is all the more unsettling."

Denial is a save-now-pay-later scheme, a contract written entirely in small print, for in the long run, the denying person knows the truth on some level.

And so the warrior must strive to confront denial in all aspects of his life, and prepare himself for the day when evil comes. If you are warrior who is legally authorized to carry a weapon and you step outside without that weapon, then you become a sheep, pretending that the bad man will not come today. No one can be "on" 24/7, for a lifetime. Everyone needs down time. But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself...

"Baa."

This business of being a sheep or a sheep dog is not a yes-no dichotomy. It is not an all-or-nothing, either-or choice. It is a matter of degrees, a continuum. On one end is an abject, head-in-the-sand-sheep and on the other end is the ultimate warrior. Few people exist completely on one end or the other. Most of us live somewhere in between. Since 9-11 almost everyone in America took a step up that continuum, away from denial. The sheep took a few steps toward accepting and appreciating their warriors, and the warriors started taking their job more seriously. The degree to which you move up that continuum, away from sheephood and denial, is the degree to which you and your loved ones will survive, physically and psychologically at your moment of truth.
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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2008, 09:46:13 AM »
I've posted it before...most Libs are sheep as are many Dems....the rest of us make sure ur free to sip wine and suck cock. Good post Hereford.
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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2008, 10:34:11 AM »
I've posted it before...most Libs are sheep as are many Dems....the rest of us make sure ur free to sip wine and suck cock. Good post Hereford.

Thanks.  I thought y'all would be interested in it.

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2008, 09:52:20 AM »
Decker are you still whining that im someone else? Geez man, give it up. This can be cleared up in 10 second by having any moderator look into the matter. I invite you to do so, because it will be funny when you are made to look like an even bigger jackass than you already are.

Take a chill pill champ.
So George Whorewell is your only handle here at GetBig Forum?

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2008, 10:36:06 AM »
All I'm gonna ask is this.

Why are there so many redneck conservatives living on welfare?

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2008, 10:49:54 AM »
All I'm gonna ask is this.

Why are there so many redneck conservatives living on welfare?

Why are >30% of mexicans on some sort of welfare?

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2008, 11:39:56 AM »
Why are >30% of mexicans on some sort of welfare?

I have no idea.

Are you implying that someone is Mexican? Have you been paying attention to that pumphard retard?

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2008, 11:40:29 AM »
Yes Decker for the 100th fucking time. Look it up, ask anyone you want, talk to Ron, talk to the Mods call the FBI.

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2008, 11:52:23 AM »
I have no idea.

Are you implying that someone is Mexican? Have you been paying attention to that pumphard retard?
What?  I'm not implying jack.

Plumphard is a mexican? What are you talking about?

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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2008, 11:57:36 AM »
What?  I'm not implying jack.

Plumphard is a mexican? What are you talking about?

I take you at your word, so it doesn't really matter... I don't have an answer to that question, but I do know that a large percentage of welfare recipients are poor white Americans... I don't really know what any of it means, but I know it's true.

Most of those people are in turn conservative... Do you think that's just the NRA thing or what?

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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2008, 12:02:22 PM »
ok, yes the average welfare recipient is a 32 year old white female. Fact. IF you look at it in regards to percentage of population mexicans and blacks have waaaaaay more of their population on the public assistance programs than caucasians or any other group do.

"Welfare" isn't just the monthly check. It is also WIC, Head Start, Food stamps, HUD vouchers, etc....

I think you will find the gross majority of welfares are just stupid. Why do you say they are conservative? Their entire EXISTANCE relies on social liberalism.

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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2008, 12:07:35 PM »
ok, yes the average welfare recipient is a 32 year old white female. Fact. IF you look at it in regards to percentage of population mexicans and blacks have waaaaaay more of their population on the public assistance programs than caucasians or any other group do.

"Welfare" isn't just the monthly check. It is also WIC, Head Start, Food stamps, HUD vouchers, etc....

I think you will find the gross majority of welfares are just stupid. Why do you say they are conservative? Their entire EXISTANCE relies on social liberalism.

I am not saying that all welfare recipients are conservative... Just the redneck white trailer versions... I think it has much more to do with the Republicans being perceived as tougher on crime, gun lovers, and a general feeling that Democrats and liberal view are pussies.

No beer swilling white American wants to be known as a pussy.

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Re: For those that don't know about history...Here is a condensed version...
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2008, 01:28:25 PM »
Yes Decker for the 100th fucking time. Look it up, ask anyone you want, talk to Ron, talk to the Mods call the FBI.
I don't have to do those things.  Just from the point of view that you've said you've been at getbig for what, 5 years?  And your post total is 180 (now 200) since I first questioned you about your mulitple accounts.  In that short time you've added 20 posts to your count.  And you expect people to believe that over a 5 year period of political upheaval unmatched since the 1960s, you've made only 180 posts?  You've added 20 more in a week or two.  Let's split the difference.  5 posts a week for 52 weeks for 5 years.  You should have, conservatively speaking, 1300 posts.

That's just one indicator.  There are others.  But I don't really care b/c you don't really matter to me.  For some reason you feel it necessary to chime in with your tiresome comments every now and then and we have to go through this.

Just b/c this is a political forum does not give you license to act like an ass.