1993 - best ever!

[NarcissisticDeity]

wrong, just b/c it only happened once doesn't mean 93 was the most dominant Olympia performance ever. All it tells us is that the judges didn't follow protocol that year. I predict that someone will come along one day and deliver an even more dominant performance than Dorian or Ronnie but the judges will still include him in the muscularity round. 93 will never happen again, not b/c no one will ever surpass Dorian, but b/c the judges won't allow it.

if Dorian changed the sport, then so did Sergio, Arnold, Samir, Lee, and Ronnie. Each bodybuilder raised the bar higher than his predecessor and changed the sport of bodybuilding.

allow me to explain since you're apparently to dumb to figure this out. Although I believe 03 Ronnie to be his prime, I also feel his 01 ASC physique would beat Dorian. Is that better? I switch between both years just like you alternate between pre-contest 93, 93, and 95. The reason I mentioned the 01 ASC is b/c Ronnie dominated his competition even more than Dorian did in 93. The judging protocol was the same but Ronnie was still called out during prejudging. If there was ever an example of clear cut ownage in a bodybuilding contest, that was it. Yet the judges still called him out during the muscularity round. This goes to show that 93 was done for novelty.

again, what does the field of competitors Dorian and Ronnie faced have to do with who dominated more?

simple: just look at the pics. In some shots, guys like Shawn Ray, Flex Wheeler, Paul Dillet, and Lou Ferrigno are holding their own or beating him in 1 or more criteria. Nobody came close to 03 Ronnie. In fact, he made the 2nd best built man in the world look like an amateur.

wrong, just b/c it only happened once doesn't mean 93 was the most dominant Olympia performance ever. All it tells us is that the judges didn't follow protocol that year. I predict that someone will come along one day and deliver an even more dominant performance than Dorian or Ronnie but the judges will still include him in the muscularity round. 93 will never happen again, not b/c no one will ever surpass Dorian, but b/c the judges won't allow it.

if Dorian changed the sport, then so did Sergio, Arnold, Samir, Lee, and Ronnie. Each bodybuilder raised the bar higher than his predecessor and changed the sport of bodybuilding.

No thats exactly what it means you can try and attach any spin you want on it but the fact remains it has NOT been duplicated since not by Ronnie bot by Jay

and there is NO if Dorian changed the sport that's not debateable

allow me to explain since you're apparently to dumb to figure this out. Although I believe 03 Ronnie to be his prime, I also feel his 01 ASC physique would beat Dorian. Is that better? I switch between both years just like you alternate between pre-contest 93, 93, and 95. The reason I mentioned the 01 ASC is b/c Ronnie dominated his competition even more than Dorian did in 93. The judging protocol was the same but Ronnie was still called out during prejudging. If there was ever an example of clear cut ownage in a bodybuilding contest, that was it. Yet the judges still called him out during the muscularity round. This goes to show that 93 was done for novelty.

You only clung to 2001 after I posted the quote from McGough your angle was always 2003 which I proved to you that it wasn't his prime   and again just keep typing 2001 was more dominant than 1993 its all you can do you can't offer any proof and you believe it was ' novelty ' it was superiority

again, what does the field of competitors Dorian and Ronnie faced have to do with who dominated more?

are you high? what does that have to do with it? lol it has everything to do with with , especially when you're facing guys in amazing shape vs ho-hum competition , Ronnie dominated over who? a soft Chris & Dennis James lmfao Dorian DOMINATED  the best at their best or at least neat their best big difference

simple: just look at the pics. In some shots, guys like Shawn Ray, Flex Wheeler, Paul Dillet, and Lou Ferrigno are holding their own or beating him in 1 or more criteria. Nobody came close to 03 Ronnie. In fact, he made the 2nd best built man in the world look like an amateur.

lmfao NO ONE is beating Dorian and ANY part of the criteria which is exactly why he dominated all rounds are physique rounds Dorian was so far and ahead of every single competitor in 1993 ALL 13 judges saw absolutely no need to include him in the muscularity round thats is the most dominant win of any Mr Olympia ever you can't change that fact you can only deny it

[NarcissisticDeity]

exactly.

the judges didn't care about following protocol because Uncle Joe was having dorian win no matter what he looked like - much like his post tear years.

the whole point of a protocol is to ensure that scoring is as accurate as possible.

if the number one placing is decided ahead of time - no need for said protocol, now is there?

it just reinforces the fact that the judges didn't care what dorian looked like  - in 93 (where he happen to deserve to win anyway) or something like 94 or 97 (where he should not have won given his competition)..and its this sort of fixing that caused fans to lose interest in droves as the 90's drew to a close...

Peter McGough

Given his stunning superiority, the judges saw no need to include him in a muscularity comparison, so Wayne DeMilia called out Yates, Flex Wheeler and Shawn Ray just for the audience.

stunning superiority , Dorian Yates the most dominant bodybuilder in the history of the sport

[Hulkster]

No thats exactly what it means you can try and attach any spin you want on it

correctly pointing out that judges were not doing their jobs properly and competently is hardly putting a 'spin' on something.

is  that your new line? every time you (or Kevin Thorton) get owned, all you do now is say someone is putting a 'spin' on it...

Kevin spun alright. he spun the fuck out of here when he couldn't deal with my damaging evidence. lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

Samir Bannout on dorian at the 1993 Mr Olympia

"Yates was first, second and third.

Most dominant Olympia win in this history of the sport

[NarcissisticDeity]

correctly pointing out that judges were not doing their jobs properly and competently is hardly putting a 'spin' on something.

is  that your new line? every time you (or Kevin Thorton) get owned, all you do now is say someone is putting a 'spin' on it...

Kevin spun alright. he spun the fuck out of here when he couldn't deal with my damaging evidence. lol

You still haven't recovered 

[Hulkster]

Peter McGough

Given his stunning superiority, the judges saw no need to include him in a muscularity comparison, so Wayne DeMilia called out Yates, Flex Wheeler and Shawn Ray just for the audience.

stunning superiority , Dorian Yates the most dominant bodybuilder in the history of the sport

exactly the point you are missing.

its not up to the judges to decide whether or not they "see a need" to compare competitors in a round to assign a score.

its their JOB and RESPONSIBLITY to do this so that the scores can be made without pulling a wild guess out their asses.

thank for for stating this quote for us all to see just how incompetent the judges truly were.

thanks!

[Hulkster]

You still haven't recovered 

yeah, sure. Kevin is probably recovering in some mental institution right now LOL

[NarcissisticDeity]

yeah, sure. Kevin is probably recovering in some mental institution right now LOL

ok retard whatever you say lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

exactly the point you are missing.

its not up to the judges to decide whether or not they "see a need" to compare competitors in a round to assign a score.

its their JOB and RESPONSIBLITY to do this so that the scores can be made without pulling a wild guess out their asses.

thank for for stating this quote for us all to see just how incompetent the judges truly were.

thanks!

they did compare him in the symmetry round and he was so far above and beyond what was the sense? NONE that shows you how far ahead he was ALL judges 13 individual people all threw down their pencils and said forget it , he won already lol

Ronnie couldn't duplicate this

[England_1]

Hulkster clearly bitter that Dorian achieved a level of dominance that Coleman never did hahaha

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hulkster clearly bitter that Dorian achieved a level of dominance that Coleman never did hahaha

So true

Ronnie couldn't beat Yates despite only being two years younger and starting out lifting years before him lol

can you imagine when Yates walked out the judges said WTF he's so far above & beyond anyone we've seen enough forget the muscularity round we've seen enough

1993 Mr Olympia the most dominant Olympia win in the history of the sport

[Hulkster]

they did compare him in the symmetry round and he was so far above and beyond what was the sense?

because it was their job to score as fairly and accurately as possible.

hence, in order to assign a score that is most accurate in the muscularity round, you need to compare him in mandatory poses to his competition.

hope this helps.

every time you talk about how the judges just threw down their pencils and said forget it, it speaks volumes about how predetermined the outcome really was..

keep it up. you are only owning yourself.

[Hulkster]

ALL judges 13 individual people all threw down their pencils and said forget it , he won already lol

he won from the moment Uncle Joe told them to have him win no matter what..

this would repeat itself over and over..

no wonder dorian's physique has such a shitty rep.

just ask Muscletime LOL

[NeoSeminole]

No thats exactly what it means you can try and attach any spin you want on it but the fact remains it has NOT been duplicated since not by Ronnie bot by Jay

no, that's not what it means. I love how you jump from point A to E. I'm not attaching any spin on it. I'm simply going by the facts.

Fact: the 93 Mr. O was the only contest the judges didn't include a competitor in the muscularity round

Fact: more dominant performances have occurred but the judges still followed IFBB protocol

You only clung to 2001 after I posted the quote from McGough your angle was always 2003 which I proved to you that it wasn't his prime and again just keep typing 2001 was more dominant than 1993 its all you can do you can't offer any proof and you believe it was ' novelty ' it was superiority

no, read what I wrote again. It has nothing to do with you posting a quote.

are you high? what does that have to do with it? lol it has everything to do with with , especially when you're facing guys in amazing shape vs ho-hum competition , Ronnie dominated over who? a soft Chris & Dennis James lmfao Dorian DOMINATED  the best at their best or at least neat their best big difference

dominance is defined by the disparity between 1st place and his competition. Nowhere does it say the winner gets a handicap if he faced a higher caliber of competitors. The difference between 1st place and 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and so on was greater in 03 than 93.

lmfao NO ONE is beating Dorian and ANY part of the criteria which is exactly why he dominated all rounds are physique rounds Dorian was so far and ahead of every single competitor in 1993 ALL 13 judges saw absolutely no need to include him in the muscularity round thats is the most dominant win of any Mr Olympia ever you can't change that fact you can only deny it

ha ha ha ha, you're such an impressionable fool. Look at the pics. You cannot dispute that Flex and Shawn aren't owning Dorian in definition and symmetry, or that Paul Dillet and Lou Ferrigno aren't owning Dorian in muscular bulk.

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, that's not what it means. I love how you jump from point A to E. I'm not attaching any spin on it. I'm simply going by the facts.

Fact: the 93 Mr. O was the only contest the judges didn't include a competitor in the muscularity round

Fact: more dominant performances have occurred but the judges still followed IFBB protocol

no, read what I wrote again. It has nothing to do with you posting a quote.

dominance is defined by the disparity between 1st place and his competition. Nowhere does it say the winner gets a handicap if he faced a higher caliber of competitors. The difference between 1st place and  2nd, 3rd, 4th, and so on was greater in 03 than 93.

ha ha ha ha, you're such an impressionable fool. Look at the pics. You cannot dispute that Flex and Shawn aren't owning Dorian in definition and symmetry, or that Paul Dillet and Lou Ferrigno aren't owning Dorian in muscular bulk.

You believe what you want Neo , I'll sit back and laugh at you 

lol 2003

[NarcissisticDeity]

he won from the moment Uncle Joe told them to have him win no matter what..

this would repeat itself over and over..

no wonder dorian's physique has such a shitty rep.

just ask Muscletime LOL

Wow so your back to Yates lost the 1993 Olympia? lol he he he

who beat him this time?

[NeoSeminole]

You believe what you want Neo , I'll sit back and laugh at you

that's fine b/c most everyone else is laughing at you.

[NarcissisticDeity]

that's fine b/c most everyone else is laughing at you.

Uh-Nos everyone? whatever shall I do? looks like another night tossing & turning thinking about the everyones who is lolz @ me

Samir Bannout on dorian at the 1993 Mr Olympia

"Yates was first, second and third.

[NeoSeminole]

93 more dominant than 03 according to ND.

[NarcissisticDeity]

93 more dominant than 03 according to ND.

No , no make no mistake boy-Neo according to the judges  the judges said that Dorian during the symmetry round was so far and above his competition he didn't need to be included in the muscularity round thats total Domination that Ronnie couldn't replicate

the judges have spoken you have your excuses keep em

[NeoSeminole]

Samir Bannout on dorian at the 1993 Mr Olympia

"Yates was first, second and third.

Team Flex – http://www.flexonline.com/training/49

"We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever - unbeatable."

Raymond Cassar – http://www.muscletime.com/news/contest-results/2007-mr-olympia-analysis

"There is no one alive that can beat Ronnie Coleman when he is at his best - No One! (and his best for me was when he won the 2001 Arnold Classic)"

[Hulkster]

Wow so your back to Yates lost the 1993 Olympia? lol he he he

who beat him this time?

huh?

are you stupid?

dorian deserved to win. but thats beside the point

but that has nothing to do with the fact that the judges were going to have him win no matter what he looked like - see their lack of protocol for the muscularity round.

these are two completely seperate issues.

learn to be smart next time.

[NeoSeminole]

No , no make no mistake boy-Neo according to the judges the judges said that Dorian during the symmetry round was so far and above his competition he didn't need to be included in the muscularity round thats total Domination that Ronnie couldn't replicate

wrong, you arrived at that conclusion on your own and are trying to pass it off as fact. Show me where the judges explicitly said Dorian's performance in 93 was the most dominant of all-time. I'll wait.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Team Flex – http://www.flexonline.com/training/49

“We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever - unbeatable."

Raymond Cassar – http://www.muscletime.com/news/contest-results/2007-mr-olympia-analysis

“There is no one alive that can beat Ronnie Coleman when he is at his best - No One! (and his best for me was when he won the 2001 Arnold Classic)”

and that mean he was more dominant than Dorian? LMFAO

Jon Hotten Muscle :
[Coleman's 1998 Olympia victory] was not a definitive win. In 99, Big Ron was lucky to defeat Flex Wheeler again. Levrone thought he'd beaten him twice, in 2000 and 2002. At the 2002 show, Levrone had won both of the evening rounds (a year on, at the Olympia press conference before the 2003 show, Coleman would chide Levrone, asking him, 'When was the last time you beat me?' Levrone replied, 'Last year.'). In 2001, Jay Cutler beat Ronnie in both the first two rounds and lost by four points.

even at his best Ronnie was very touchable , Dorian on the otherhand lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

wrong, you arrived at that conclusion on your own and are trying to pass it off as fact. Show me where the judges explicitly said Dorian's performance in 93 was the most dominant of all-time. I'll wait.

see spin , see failure , you know your way

Did they omit Ronnie from the muscularity round in 2003? yeah I thought so ....next