1993 - best ever!

[johnny1]

notice how ronnie is always hard, vascular and striated, while dorian is always smooth, soft and puffy?

yup.

and ND has the balls to go on about how dorian is dryer, harder bigger LOL

what total bullshit. of course, when ND types such crap, he never shows pics to go along with it.

gee, I wonder why?

 

..No your right Ronnie is harder and dryer than Dorian was.. oh heres same pictures (not distorted screen-caps) feel free to post PICTURES of ronnie looking dryer and harder than Dorian in the same shots STC, RLS, ABS...

[Mr.1derful]

hahaha so true

Reading this 1derfuls posts makes for some hilarious entertainment.

What i want answered is how come its so painfully obvious that in the majority of mr os dorian was outclassed something silly and DID look like trash.

I want to hear these mugs justify such abnormalities as receiving perfect scores in 97.

What must his contemporaries been thinking at the time? Surely the same that the mentally regular that inhabit this board

You might have better comprehension of my posts if you were to keep a dictionary and thesaurus close by.  Hope this helps.

[Earl1972]

Your perception is vey skewed.  In 1997, in less than top form, Yates destroyed everyone.  Ronnie was a distant 9th.  I can't say where Flex would have placed, as he was too scared to compete and resorted to fictional ninja stories to dodge the contest.  If history is any indicator though, Flex would have been crushed as usual. By his own admission, Flex has stated that he was not at his best in 1998. And still, Ronnie barely beat him. Had Yates competed, if we are to gauge prior contests, Yates would have easily won again. 

no my perception is not "skewed" i have two working eyes

i'm not saying ronnie deserved to win 97, i actually think 97 was a nasser night

yates woud've kept going if he knew he would still win, it's not like he wasn't a typical meathead with a wide variety of interests outside of bodybuilding ie Mr. Levrone

dorian winning in 97 was a travesty for this once proud sport

E

[sculpture]

You might be able to have better comprehension of my posts if you were to keep a dictionary and thesaurus close by.  Hope this helps.

Thats your problem.

You actually do.

Replacing one word with another that means exactly the same doesnt work.  

[NarcissisticDeity]

flex was not substandard in 98 and ronnie surprised everybody in 98, being favored coming into a contest helps and you know it

how would flex 93 beat flex 98? whatever happened to "muscular bulk and density" nd

the scoring is a joke, dorian getting a perfect score in 97 proves that

who cares that ronnie lost in 06?  if dorian stuck around one more year he would've lost to ronnie (if the scoring was fair) and he still would've had two less olympia titles

dorian knew he was done, that's why he retired

E

The absolute best Flex Wheeler ever look in his career was 1993 period. after that he never again appeared the same , he was reduced to synthol which made his once almost perfect physique an abomination , so substandard in that context he was and Flex admittedly sabotaged his prep in 1998 . he said self doubt caused him to

And to answer your question how would Flex 93 beat Flex 98? easily he was better conditioned in 1993 and he may have been slightly larger but at the expense of his density , Ronnie did surprise everyone and he earned the win , Flex was off period and even with all that considered he still just barely beat Flex Wheeler , that's NOT debatable it was a close contest regardless of what that dummy Hulkster claims

And stop saying the scoring is a joke because if that's the case the scoring was a joke every single time Kevin Levrone won a contest or Ronnie Coleman , please spare me this bullshit the scoring is a joke ONLY when Dorian won , pure bias plain & simple , same judges all the time you just don't like the fact Levrone was NEVER good enough to beat Dorian , you can't have it both ways

and you can speculate all you want on if Dorian would have lost , bottom line is he didn't , he retired undefeated period , Ronnie fell way off the ladder reduced to 4th place in a contest he used to own , needless to say that's what people will remember .

[Mr.1derful]

Thats your problem.

You actually do.

Replacing one word with another that means exactly the same doesnt work.  

Actually, it should be: That's your problem.  Care to critique further genius?   In the next lesson we'll work on structuring complete sentences. 

[Earl1972]

The absolute best Flex Wheeler ever look in his career was 1993 period. after that he never again appeared the same , he was reduced to synthol which made his once almost perfect physique an abomination , so substandard in that context he was and Flex admittedly sabotaged his prep in 1998 . he said self doubt caused him to

And to answer your question how would Flex 93 beat Flex 98? easily he was better conditioned in 1993 and he may have been slightly larger but at the expense of his density , Ronnie did surprise everyone and he earned the win , Flex was off period and even with all that considered he still just barely beat Flex Wheeler , that's NOT debatable it was a close contest regardless of what that dummy Hulkster claims

And stop saying the scoring is a joke because if that's the case the scoring was a joke every single time Kevin Levrone won a contest or Ronnie Coleman , please spare me this bullshit the scoring is a joke ONLY when Dorian won , pure bias plain & simple , same judges all the time you just don't like the fact Levrone was NEVER good enough to beat Dorian , you can't have it both ways

and you can speculate all you want on if Dorian would have lost , bottom line is he didn't , he retired undefeated period , Ronnie fell way off the ladder reduced to 4th place in a contest he used to own , needless to say that's what people will remember .

"sabotaging" his prep was an excuse because everybody expected him to win and ronnie beat him fair and square

the scoring is a joke when a guy with a missing arm and construction worker wasitline wins a show, if Mr. Levrone's torn pec was as much of a distraction as dorian's arm i would not be a big fan

ronnie has two more olympia's than dorian, his 4th place finish is irrelevant

that is what everybody without a hardon for dorian will remember

E

[England_1]

HOLY SHIT! PERFECT 

[pumpster]

Yates' "victories" have been largely a joke as he flashes 17s here..

The only lingering question: Would the keg prefer ND's willing lips to uncle joe's?

[pumpster]

HOLY SHIT! PERFECT 

Standing by himself!

Bulldozed by others & perfectly mediocre when standing side-by-side...

[NarcissisticDeity]

"sabotaging" his prep was an excuse because everybody expected him to win and ronnie beat him fair and square

the scoring is a joke when a guy with a missing arm and construction worker wasitline wins a show, if Mr. Levrone's torn pec was as much of a distraction as dorian's arm i would not be a big fan

ronnie has two more olympia's than dorian, his 4th place finish is irrelevant

that is what everybody without a hardon for dorian will remember

E

No sabotaging his prep wasn't an excuse , he was happy for Ronnie that year unlike 1999 so much for that excuse

Okay the scoring was a joke included every single contest Levrone won PERIOD. you can't have it both ways hypocrite , it's okay for Levrone to win with a torn pec but not Yates with a torn bicep/tricep see hypocrisy

lmfao Ronnie has two more Olympias lol and? against who? ho-hum competition , your hero himself said Ronnie should have NOT won three of them , 2000/2001/2002 , Dorian dominated everyone Ronnie competed with including Ronnie , Ronnie almost loses to Jay & Kevin in those years but the judging wasn't a joke then it was accurate lol you're fucked either way

Dorian win/loss ratio 88% Ronnie's 40% Dorian retired undefeated , Ronnie well we all know lol

Dorian is the most dominant bodybuilder in the history of the sport period , all you have left is excuses and tears , you fit right in with Hulkster and pumpster and company , all losers , your heros lost to Yates as you and them are losing to his fans lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

Standing by himself!

Bulldozed by others & perfectly mediocre when standing side-by-side...

yeah I thought so 

[sculpture]

Actually, it should be: That's your problem.  Care to critique further genius?   In the next lesson we'll work on structuring complete sentences. 

we all eagerly await your next lesson.

Hopefully you'll include the importance of content.  

[sculpture]

HOLY SHIT! PERFECT 

If you mean having a midsection thats practically as thick as his chest and possessing some of the ugliest lines to grace the olympia stage then yes....

that is perfect.

[pumpster]

yeah I thought so 

Poor example, does not overturn my compelling evidence bwhahahaahah


NEXT

[QuakerOats]

Poor example, does not overturn my compelling evidence bwhahahaahah


NEXT

hahahahhaa, Levrone destroying the steel worker right there.

[Earl1972]

No sabotaging his prep wasn't an excuse , he was happy for Ronnie that year unlike 1999 so much for that excuse

yes it was an excuse, stop picking and choosing what you do and don't believe, he also said ninjas attacked him

Okay the scoring was a joke included every single contest Levrone won PERIOD. you can't have it both ways hypocrite , it's okay for Levrone to win with a torn pec but not Yates with a torn bicep/tricep see hypocrisy

learn to read, i said if Mr. Levrone's pec WAS a distraction like dorian's arm i would not have been as much of a fan, his pec was not noticeable at all

lmfao Ronnie has two more Olympias lol and? against who? ho-hum competition , your hero himself said Ronnie should have NOT won three of them , 2000/2001/2002 , Dorian dominated everyone Ronnie competed with including Ronnie , Ronnie almost loses to Jay & Kevin in those years but the judging wasn't a joke then it was accurate lol you're fucked either way

my "hero" also said he should've won in 92,94, and 95

dorian did not dominate, the score cards mean shit after the debacle in 97

Dorian win/loss ratio 88% Ronnie's 40% Dorian retired undefeated , Ronnie well we all know lol

ronnie said he was natural then, is that one of the things that you choose to believe lol

Dorian is the most dominant bodybuilder in the history of the sport period , all you have left is excuses and tears , you fit right in with Hulkster and pumpster and company , all losers , your heros lost to Yates as you and them are losing to his fans lol

I own you

E

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes it was an excuse, stop picking and choosing what you do and don't believe, he also said ninjas attacked him

learn to read, i said if Mr. Levrone's pec WAS a distraction like dorian's arm i would not have been as much of a fan, his pec was not noticeable at all

my "hero" also said he should've won in 92,94, and 95

dorian did not dominate, the score cards mean shit after the debacle in 97

ronnie said he was natural then, is that one of the things that you choose to believe lol

I own you

E

yes it was an excuse, stop picking and choosing what you do and don't believe, he also said ninjas attacked him

NO it wasn't an excuse it's the truth and this wasn't said right after the Olympia this was revealed years later in his book . He made NO excuses for his loss in 1998 he said Ronnie beat him fair & square and he was happy for him , so once again you're wrong , and if you did some actually reading on Flex you'd know he was notorious for cheating on his diet pre-contest ALL years he was at times lazy , unmotiveated , distracted , so when he says he sabotaged his prep he's being honest .

learn to read, i said if Mr. Levrone's pec WAS a distraction like dorian's arm i would not have been as much of a fan, his pec was not noticeable at all

it doesn't matter a tear is a tear PERIOD it was noticeable but because it's Kevin it's okay see hypocrisy , and yes his pec was noticeable

my "hero" also said he should've won in 92,94, and 95

according to you yes according to the people who know how to judge contests and who decide NO Kevin wasn't beating Dorian EVER , maybe in fantasy contests where facial beauty is part of the criteria but in reality Levrone could NEVER beat Yates

dorian did not dominate, the score cards mean shit after the debacle in 97

denial of history again lol history begs to differ , dorian utterly crushed Kevin ( and everyone else ) in 1992/94/95 etc , etc , etc the scored cards are only right when Kevin wins lol great logic again see hypocrisy

ronnie said he was natural then, is that one of the things that you choose to believe lol

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with his win/loss percentage lmfao you can't even follow the debate

I own you

E

you own nothing you're in denial of bodybuilding history , the judging only works when Kevin wins , Kevin should have beat Dorian in 92/94/95 LMFAO you're delusional the only thing you own is yourself

Dorian owns your mind

[NarcissisticDeity]

Poor example, does not overturn my compelling evidence bwhahahaahah


NEXT

Dorian's not even hitting the shot yet and this is what you're trying to pass as compelling evidence lol you're a bias simpleton

[NarcissisticDeity]

If you mean having a midsection thats practically as thick as his chest and possessing some of the ugliest lines to grace the olympia stage then yes....

that is perfect.

Density - Muscle hardness, which is also related to muscu-lar definition. A bodybuilder can be well-defined and still have excess fat within each major muscle complex. But when he has muscle density, even this intramuscular fat has been eliminated. A combination of muscle mass and muscle density is highly prized among all competitive bodybuilders.

According to how bodybuilding contests are judged he is ' perfect ' despite his lacking on aesthetics

[England_1]

Dorian is definitely the best ever - both by virtue of the 93 physique and his humility! In 1998 and 99 the only thing Ronnie could say was "lord jeebus".....fast forward to 2001 he is owned by Cutler and loses in 2002 to Levrone and Gunther. He lost in 2006 and made an absolute fool of himself coming up in a Moses outfit and wearing sunglasses during his posing routine. And then he had the audacity to make a DVD titled "Invincible" in 2007 leading up to his 4th place GIFT at that years Olympia  Dorian never even came close to being defeated after 1992 and he was always humble!

[England_1]

Jesus, Dorian's proportions in his legs are absolutely perfect! His thighs are massive and much bigger than levrone's. Look at the calves!!

[NarcissisticDeity]

Jesus, Dorian's proportions in his legs are absolutely perfect! His thighs are massive and much bigger than levrone's. Look at the calves!!

pumpster the biased troll can't argue this one lol his pics of Dorian not even flexing can't save his ass now lol

Dorian owns the side triceps as many other mandatories

[NarcissisticDeity]

For Hulkster lol

Flex October 2004

I discussed this trend recently with Dorian Yates who commented that, since his retirement in 1997, it seems, "The voodoo taking place before a contest has grown, but I don't see the guys getting any harder." Those words shouldn't be dismissed lightly, because no one ever got drier and harder than the man who took six Mr. Olympia titles.

two areas of the judging criteria that Ronnie could NEVER competed with Dorian in no matter what year lol

[Mr.1derful]