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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #775 on: December 04, 2008, 05:04:55 PM »
Coleman had much better balace and proportion than this abortion.

Not at his best he didn't not by a long shot and that ' abortion ' was 1st place in 1997 where was Ronnie? 9th how bad was Ronnie if Yates was an ' abortion ' ?  ;)

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #776 on: December 04, 2008, 06:03:04 PM »
idiot loose skin becoming tight is an oxymoron , look Yates owned you again as did I , I know you're a proud man but you're dummy , no loose skin sorry . who's opinion shall we believe?  one of the sports most knowledgeable professionals who is a six-time Mr Olympia winner who is known for his insane conditioning or Neoseminole? a ' certified personal trainer' ? lol

no, it's not an oxymoron. Loose skin is simply skin that is not taught. So what do you think happens when you stretch it? It gets tight, you dumbass. That's why Dorian's loose skin appears in some poses but disappears when he shows his Christmas tree. Spare me your lame retort "who's opinion shall we believe?" It's not my opinion if the visual evidence backs up what I say. I'm stating a fact.






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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #777 on: December 04, 2008, 06:08:31 PM »
Bull shit you said on multiple occasions Ronnie 03 was better conditioned than Dorian period. until I proved you wrong again . you said on many occasions that an MD would tell you Ronnie is better conditioned lol

stop lying. I never said Ronnie in 03 was better conditioned. I said 01 ASC Ronnie had better conditioning than Dorian, and made comparisons to prove it. I think you're getting the years mixed up. Perhaps you'll remember these:




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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #778 on: December 04, 2008, 06:11:01 PM »
no, it's not an oxymoron. Loose skin is simply skin that is not taught. So what do you think happens when you stretch it? It gets tight, you dumbass. That's why Dorian's loose skin appears in some poses but disappears when he shows his Christmas tree. Spare me your lame retort "who's opinion shall we believe?" It's not my opinion if the visual evidence backs up what I say. I'm stating a fact.



Neo you find yourself once again in direct opposition to an IFBB judge regarding a FACT , Dorian said specifically he had NO loose skin period that ends ANYTHING you ever typed on the subject

you can't even find any converging evidence to substanciate this dumb accusation well do you really want to count Hulkster?  ???

Dorian is one of the best conditioned athletes of ALL-TIME better than Ronnie and better than anyone today lol and you're typing he has loose skin lol I'll sit on high an laugh at your ignorance Dorian and I silenced you yet again

keep typing I'll keep laughing

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #779 on: December 04, 2008, 06:12:03 PM »
Neo you find yourself once again in direct opposition to an IFBB judge regarding a FACT , Dorian said specifically he had NO loose skin period that ends ANYTHING you ever typed on the subject

you can't even find any converging evidence to substanciate this dumb accusation well do you really want to count Hulkster?  ???

Dorian is one of the best conditioned athletes of ALL-TIME better than Ronnie and better than anyone today lol and you're typing he has loose skin lol I'll sit on high an laugh at your ignorance Dorian and I silenced you yet again

keep typing I'll keep laughing
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i dont think so!
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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #780 on: December 04, 2008, 06:13:50 PM »
stop lying. I never said Ronnie in 03 was better conditioned. I said 01 ASC Ronnie had better conditioning than Dorian, and made comparisons to prove it. I think you're getting the years mixed up. Perhaps you'll remember these:


I 100% sure you said 03 as well , maybe if I get motivated I'll do a search but I could care less , NO version of Ronnie is harder or drier than Dorian  ;)

and those don't prove a thing not at all , different lighting , quality , etc and you're neglecting the fact Yates looks much better in person than pics lol

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #781 on: December 04, 2008, 10:06:23 PM »
ND, why do you keep insisting that dorian had no loose skin on his back when its in almost every pic of his back lat spread?

 ::)

if the judge said dorian had 5 legs would you insist on believing that too? ::)

because thats the equivelent of what you are doing.

dorian had lots of loose skin in his back.

let us show you once again:
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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #782 on: December 04, 2008, 10:54:24 PM »
more examples of loose folds of skin.






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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #783 on: December 04, 2008, 10:58:16 PM »
some pics of off-season Dorian. Look similar?




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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #784 on: December 05, 2008, 11:54:45 AM »
ND, why do you keep insisting that dorian had no loose skin on his back when its in almost every pic of his back lat spread?

 ::)

if the judge said dorian had 5 legs would you insist on believing that too? ::)

because thats the equivelent of what you are doing.

dorian had lots of loose skin in his back.

let us show you once again:

[ Q ] So you were aiming for optimal conditioning and the size you were able to maintain pre-contest was a natural consequence of the training you did in the final months and weeks leading into the show?
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      I trained for size in the off-season, but when it came time to get ready for a contest it was all about coming in shredded. The glutes must be striated, with the lower back shredded, no water anywhere, no loose skin. Like you are covered in cling-film.


NO LOOSE SKIN  ;)

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #785 on: December 05, 2008, 11:58:01 AM »
more examples of loose folds of skin.



No those are just examples of your ignorance and desperation

I'm sure seeing it was so prevalent you ca find the multiple contest reviews that confirm what you claim it should be real easy to because apparently it's every single contest


do post them when you have the chance , it's been years since you made this empty claim and have yet to produce anything

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #786 on: December 05, 2008, 12:08:15 PM »
ND, he says he had no loose skin
there are tons of photos showing his loose skin

no wonder you think he is better than Ronnie, you're BLIND

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #787 on: December 05, 2008, 02:27:20 PM »
ND, he says he had no loose skin
there are tons of photos showing his loose skin

no wonder you think he is better than Ronnie, you're BLIND

and stupid.

ND is in complete denial of everything, including the famous loose skin: ::)

you can show him a billions pics of the loose skin (and there are about that many) and will STILL deny that it exists... ::)\

thats how stupid this man truly is.. :-\
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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #788 on: December 05, 2008, 02:31:31 PM »

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #789 on: December 05, 2008, 02:33:09 PM »
and stupid.

ND is in complete denial of everything, including the famous loose skin: ::)

you can show him a billions pics of the loose skin (and there are about that many) and will STILL deny that it exists... ::)\

thats how stupid this man truly is.. :-\

all dorian trolls should start a charity for ND, put all their money in, all of it, it might be enough to buy him a pair of glasses.  :-\

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #790 on: December 05, 2008, 02:35:49 PM »
all dorian trolls should start a charity for ND, put all their money in, all of it, it might be enough to buy him a pair of glasses.  :-\

hahahaha great idea.

but he needs a better brain, one that knows bb and philosophy, two topics he has demonstrated he knows fuck all about.

and you can't get a new brain..
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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #791 on: December 05, 2008, 02:46:24 PM »
hahahaha great idea.

but he needs a better brain, one that knows bb and philosophy, two topics he has demonstrated he knows fuck all about.

and you can't get a new brain..

Again coming from the guy who claimed Flex Wheeler beat dorian in 1993 and Ronnie has more detailed calves than Dorian lol brutal self-ownage

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #792 on: December 05, 2008, 02:48:21 PM »
and stupid.

ND is in complete denial of everything, including the famous loose skin: ::)

you can show him a billions pics of the loose skin (and there are about that many) and will STILL deny that it exists... ::)\

thats how stupid this man truly is.. :-\

Loose skin where? it doesn't magically disappear from one pose to the next lol where is the loose skin? there is NONE

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #793 on: December 05, 2008, 02:50:43 PM »
Loose skin where? it doesn't magically disappear from one pose to the next lol where is the loose skin? there is NONE

Dorian owned you I own you

when you flex, ofcourse it's gonna go away, it's why it's called "LOOSE SKIN"
it's not so loose once you're contracting your entire back  ;)

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #794 on: December 05, 2008, 02:56:34 PM »
when you flex, ofcourse it's gonna go away, it's why it's called "LOOSE SKIN"
it's not so loose once you're contracting your entire back  ;)

that's an oxymoron , loose skin doesn't become tight when you flex loose skin is the result of sub-q fat & water and Dorian's density & dryness was second to NONE period.

these dummies will type and type on how Dorian has loose skin and NO WHERE else has this been claimed ! I've read every single contest review from Yates' Olympia wins and NEVER did any claim he has any loose skin or he was holding excess water , I've told these guys since it's so prevalent feel free to post all the quotes pointing out this flaw and guess what? I'm still waiting

Here is ONE single quote talking about Dorian's conditioning going down the drain I can post many more too  ;) that's how it's done you make a claim you back up your claim

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 ,

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #795 on: December 05, 2008, 03:00:31 PM »
when you flex, ofcourse it's gonna go away, it's why it's called "LOOSE SKIN"
it's not so loose once you're contracting your entire back  ;)


Kevin has it all but was a little soft in prejudging , which hurt him. He wasn't quite as sharp as Shawn , but it was very close between second and third. It came down to the posedown ( Which Shawn won by a single point ).


At the 1994 Olympia Kevin soft in pre-judging  ;) yet we can't find any quotes of Dorian and his loose skin lol


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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #796 on: December 05, 2008, 03:43:10 PM »
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yet we can't find any quotes of Dorian and his loose skin lol

why do you need quotes when we have tons of real pics from the contest? ??? ::)

what the fuck? ::)

dorian trained his loose skin very well in 1994.

here he is posing it for all to see:

ND why are you pretending that this skin isn't there, when everyone is showing you that is was?

answer please
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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #797 on: December 05, 2008, 04:46:14 PM »
With all due respect, Hulk, where's Dorian's loose skin in that shot?  ???  He looks very tight to me, even when he is "off."

P.S. ... can't y'all bury this Dorian/Ronnie thing?  They were both truly GREAT!  My dad, brothers and I saw both win Olympias, and there's no question Dorian and Ronnie are both incredible bodybuilders, more than worthy of the titles I saw them win. 

The arguments to the contrary have, to be honest, been very lame.  Posting bad shots of either man proves nothing.  Appealing to popularity means nothing.  All that matters is how well Dorian and Ronnie stacked up against the opposition in the relaxed and compulsory rounds.  (On that note, for what it's worth, I thought Ronnie soundly beat Jay in 2001.  Jay was harder but Ronnie was better in too many poses to lose.)


You don't have to concede that Ronnie's best is inferior to Dorian's or whatever, but it'd sure be nice if the constant back-and-forth would stop.  It's gotten REALLY old and is anything but objective.  Someone shooting you straight will tell you Yates and Coleman were both all but untouchable, and who'd win between them is definitely not as simple as posting pictures of one man with his gut hanging out opposite the other hitting his best pose.

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #798 on: December 05, 2008, 04:57:32 PM »
Someone shooting you straight will tell you Yates and Coleman were both all but untouchable, and who'd win between them is definitely not as simple as posting pictures of one man with his gut hanging out opposite the other hitting his best pose.

Not really. Yates was given several Olympia gifts, didn't live up to the purported "greatness" much of the time but won thanx to politics. If you chose blindness to this fine, but it's very true-he didn't deserve many of the "wins" against more deserving peers aside from Coleman dominating him in pics, as proven reguarly. Schwarzenegger said same, that Yates wasn't what BB should be about, a significant criticism, not a minor one-was he also biased? I think not.

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #799 on: December 05, 2008, 04:57:44 PM »
its right above his tights..
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