1993 - best ever!

[NarcissisticDeity]

Better triceps better forearms

[NeoSeminole]

And 2003 is his prime too lol next

Dorian's triceps & forearms are better than Ronnie

when you can't win an argument through visual evidence, avoidance is the only option left. Next.

[NarcissisticDeity]

when you can't win an argument through visual evidence, avoidance is the only option left. Next.

What did I avoid? I provided pics showing Dorian's triceps while not as big showing better separation , definition and proportion in relation to the rest of his arms , you post a few pictures make blanket statements and hope for the best

[Hulkster]

LOL ND is on damage control.

the shots neo posted show Ronnie having better triceps than dorian ever did - bigger, and striated to boot, much like pretty much every other bodypart and every madatory pose, with the exception of the ab and thigh.

its game over for the nuthuggers..

[Hulkster]

ronnie's arms are better than dorian's in every concievable way, from wrist to deltoid:

thankfully, its only one or two morons on this board that believe any different, the rest of the world knows how the sport works..

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL ND is on damage control.

the shots neo posted show Ronnie having better triceps than dorian ever did - bigger, and striated to boot, much like pretty much every other bodypart and every madatory pose, with the exception of the ab and thigh.

its game over for the nuthuggers..

Quote the contrary ever since the Yates interview you guys have been on the offensive and melting down every thread it's old news nothing new , when the 95 Olympia video was posted it happened then , when the 93 pre-contest video was posted it happened it goes in cycles

Dorian confirmed a LOT of what I said after the fact I might add to boot lol confirms I always knew what the fuck I was talking about and you idiots didn't

Dorian beats Ronnie in ANY mandatory at is best and why? all rounds are physique rounds

[NarcissisticDeity]

ronnie's arms are better than dorian's in every concievable way, from wrist to deltoid:

ha ha ha ha blanket statement meltdown

every concievable way  Dorian's forearms have better shape , insert near the wrist , and are in proportion with his biceps/triceps , Dorian's triceps show better separation and has striations and his side head is better shaped as well

[ASJChaotic]

ND, how do Dorian's triceps measure up to this man's? 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, how do Dorian's triceps measure up to this man's? 

The more important question is how does his side triceps measure up? Kevin has better triceps than both more massive , more classic horseshoe

[ASJChaotic]

everybody will lose, Kevin had the greatest triceps ever, period.

[Hulkster]

Dorian beats Ronnie in ANY mandatory at is best and why? all rounds are physique rounds

please exlain lol

 

dorian gets killed in all mandatories, with the possible exception of the ab and thigh:

[Hulkster]

ouch

its game over for dorian

look at the incredible thickness of ronnie's back (esp the lower back area) compared to dorian's paper thin back, not to mention the incredible arms of ronnie, compared to dorian's horrible excuse for arms:

dorian has better calves as always, but as always again, better calves don't mean much when the rest of your body is not nearly as good:

[NarcissisticDeity]

ouch

its game over for dorian

look at the incredible thickness of ronnie's back (esp the lower back area) compared to dorian's paper thin back, not to mention the incredible arms of ronnie, compared to dorian's horrible excuse for arms:

dorian has better calves as always, but as always again, better calves don't mean much when the rest of your body is not nearly as good:

All rounds are physique rounds , how can Ronnie have a better back double biceps shot when he's NOT carrying as much muscular bulk ? how can he have a better back double biceps shot when he doesn't have any advantage in balance & proportion? how can he have a better back double biceps shot when he's not harder and drier ? how can he have a better back double biceps shot when he's not as complete?

please answer the questions lol

[Hulkster]

how can Ronnie have a better back double biceps shot when he's NOT carrying as much muscular bulk ? how can he have a better back double biceps shot when he doesn't have any advantage in balance & proportion? how can he have a better back double biceps shot when he's not harder and drier ? how can he have a better back double biceps shot when he's not as complete?

sad that you think that the answer to all those questions is NO..

its not.

Ronnie IS carrying as much muscular bulk - dorian's midsection alone makes up for the weight differential of only 7 pounds or so...

he IS better balanced and proportioned - arms not way undersized, better taper, smaller waist etc.

dorian displays more detail in the upper traps - but no where else - notice dorian's soft glutes and hams too

ronnie is just as hard and dry (at least in 98/99 and the AC)

and he is just as complete - he has no calves, but dorian has shit arms, shit quads shit delts etc. in comparsion.. so you certainly CANNOT say dorian was more complete than ronnie. he sure as hell wasnt.

so, what were the answer to those questions again?

 

[suckmymuscle]

the nuthuggers claim Dorian's lower attaching lats are an advantage? The difference is only like 1/2 cm.

 First of all, the diference is not half a centimeter. How do you know this? Did you measure the lat lengh of both? Secondly, even if it were, it still wouldn't mean shit. The bones of Nasser are probably no more than a few milimeters wider in diameter than those of Flex, and this is enough to cause a dramatic difference in how the muscles lokin terms of fullnes, with Wheeler's muscles looking much fuller and rounder. Bodybuilding is about illusion, you cretin. Whatever the differenc in lat lengh between Dorian and Ronnie is, it is clearly vsible by the eyes and makes a difference in how the back of them looks.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

sad that you think that the answer to all those questions is NO..

its not.

Ronnie IS carrying as much muscular bulk - dorian's midsection alone makes up for the weight differential of only 7 pounds or so...

he IS better balanced and proportioned - arms not way undersized, better taper, smaller waist etc.

dorian displays more detail in the upper traps - but no where else - notice dorian's soft glutes and hams too

ronnie is just as hard and dry (at least in 98/99 and the AC)

and he is just as complete - he has no calves, but dorian has shit arms, shit quads shit delts etc. in comparsion..

so, what were the answer to those questions again?

 

sad that you think that the answer to all those questions is NO..

its not.

It's sad because YOU don't know how contests are judged

Ronnie IS carrying as much muscular bulk - dorian's midsection alone makes up for the weight differential of only 7 pounds or so...

WRONG Dorian is 269 pounds I hate to break it to you sport 269 pounds is more muscular bulk than 247 pounds in 2001 and 257 pounds in 1999 and Dorian's midsection shits all over Ronnie's and his narrow waist piss-poor abs and mediocre intercostals/serattus/external obliques

he IS better balanced and proportioned - arms not way undersized, better taper, smaller waist etc.

more blanket statements and cherry picking , Dorian's ARMS arms pay attention you moron ARMS biceps/triceps and forearms have better proportion and balance than Ronnies , you also neglected torso length , arm length in relation to the torso , leg length , upper & lower balance , stop cherry picking parts of the criteria that YOU think he has the advantage in ignore the rest and make a childish blanket statement , Dorian AT HIS BEST has better balance & proportion than Ronnie , proof in the pics and the fact Dorian said as much and he would know seeing he's an IFBB judge  

dorian displays more detail in the upper traps - but no where else - notice dorian's soft glutes and hams too

Dorian displays more detail in his ENTIRE back than Ronnie this includes , lats , teres  infraspinatus , lats and spinal etectors this is a proven fact , Dorian has striated glutes ( more ignorance from you ) and hams LMFAO Dorian's are actually in proportion to his quads and Ronnie's aren't ( see any side shot ) and Dorian's hams lack NOTHING they show clear separation of both heads

ronnie is just as hard and dry (at least in 98/99 and the AC)

Ronnie has NEVER as hard and dry as Dorian , another ignorant LIE from you , he wasn't even as hard and as dry as he was in 1999 compared to 1998 another LIE you've been corrected on yet continue to type , so wrong again

and he is just as complete - he has no calves, but dorian has shit arms, shit quads shit delts etc. in comparsion..

how can be one be just as complete and yet have no calves? oxymoron , and spare me the blanket statements you can't back ANY of your claims just make them

so, what were the answer to those questions again?

NO and why? all rounds are physique rounds

Dorian carries more muscular bulk
Dorian has better density & dryness
Dorian has better balance & proportion
Dorian is more complete
Dorian has better posing & presentation

class dismissed , Hulkster and his ignorant cherry picking blanket statement ass is corrected yet again thanks for playing

[Hulkster]

WRONG Dorian is 269 pounds I hate to break it to you sport 269 pounds is more muscular bulk than 247 pounds

Hello?

ronnie was 250 pounds in 98 and 257 pounds in 99

dorian's best ever shape was 257 in 93.

so where are you getting this 269-247 BULLSHIT from?

 

[Hulkster]

Ronnie has NEVER as hard and dry as Dorian , another ignorant LIE from you , he wasn't even as hard and as dry as he was in 1999 compared to 1998 another LIE you've been corrected on yet continue to type , so wrong again

too bad real life owns your ass as always:

what was that bullshit about ronnie not being as hard or dry again?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hello?

ronnie was 250 pounds in 98 and 257 pounds in 99

dorian's best ever shape was 257 in 93.

so where are you getting this 269-247 BULLSHIT from?

 

Dorian's best ever shape was pre-contest at 269 pounds

Dorian's best contest showing is 1993/1995 and ALL are harder & drier than Ronnie this is NOT up for debate

257 pounds isn't the same as Dorian's 257 bone dry hard as nails 257 pounds

1999 is NOT in Dorian's league in conditioning , neither is 2001/1998/2003 any year

[Hulkster]

1999 is NOT in Dorian's league in conditioning , neither is 2001/1998/2003 any year

then explain this please LOL

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

too bad real life owns your ass as always:

what was that bullshit about ronnie not being as hard or dry again?

to bad REAL LIFE owns your ass as always :

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.

Dorian said he has better conditioning than Ronnie   Dorian's conditioning is legendary Ronnie's isn't and your PHOTOSHOPPED pics can't save your dumb ass from FACTS the facts are Dorian is better conditioned based on first hand live in person eyewitness accounts

Hulkster = owned

[Hulkster]

Dorian's best ever shape was pre-contest at 269 pounds

then why the fuck is he being KILLED in the conditioning department (along with all other criteria) by Ronnie:

oh thats right - dorian didn't come close.

please keeping typing ND - you are making it so easy to completely own your ignorant ass:

[Hulkster]

notice: whenever real life visuals crush ND's bullshit, he starts quoting again...

you know you have lost in a visual sport when the visuals can't even corroborate what you are trying to argue...

[NarcissisticDeity]

then explain this please LOL

 

You'd have to know what conditioning is   YOU don't then you'd have to combine that with the fact that YOU can't ascertain Dorian's conditioning from photos   then you'd have to know that Ronnie and a slew of others ALL say he was harder & drier in 98 than 99 and then you'd have to see this quote and do what you always do ...cry

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.

[Hulkster]

dorian's best ever being crushed by ronnie's not even onstage shape

I love this!

please keep going ND

please

you are embarassing yourself over and over again and its great