Fix This : The near impossibility of Fixing a Bodybuilding show.

[NarcissisticDeity]

The judges simply ranked the competitors on a sheet of paper, awarding the best man one point, the second two and so on. It was a simple method in which the lowest score won. DeMilia had devised a system where the computer randomly selected one judge per round as an alternate, thus eliminating their score. It then removed the three highest and the three lowest scoring judges. From the twelve judges, then, just five papers counted in any one round, and the judges were unaware of which they were, " To fix a contest, definitely beyond a shadow of a doubt, Wayne had told me, somewhat gleefully, ' you gotta buy off nine judges. I figured this out mathematically. You gotta buy off nine judges. In our sport, with all the big mouths and gossips and everything else, you think nine judges could keep their mouths shut? And lets face it, you gotta go to nine judges and one says ' I don't wanna do it, ' you gotta go to number ten...You think that one other guy ain't gonna talk? ' Hey he tried to buy me off, but I didn't take it. He didn't offer me enough money..." how much money is it gonna take.?" 

Its impossible to fix a contest anyone who says otherwise is ignorant of the way contests are judged , well you're not ignorant anymore what excuses are you left with now?

[Earl1972]

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[NarcissisticDeity]

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What are you going to say? this is in direct contradiction to your claims to the contrary 

[Earl1972]

What are you going to say? this is in direct contradiction to your claims to the contrary 

i never once said a contest was fixed


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[Hulkster]

in 1993 the judges were prepared to assign dorian a score in the muscularity round WITHOUT comparing him to his competitors.

you tell us if thats a fair judging panel or not..

thats about as solid of proof of contest fixing/partial judging as you can get right there:

pull a score out of your ass and write it down on the card. who cares how you got it...

the fact that dorian deserved to win in 93 is besides the point.

the method of scoring should have been as impartial as possible.

and that did not happen.

[NarcissisticDeity]

in 1993 the judges were prepared to assign dorian a score in the muscularity round WITHOUT comparing him to his competitors.

you tell us if thats a fair judging panel or not..

thats about as solid of proof of contest fixing/partial judging as you can get right there:

pull a score out of your ass and write it down on the card. who cares how you got it...

or it could be he was just do far and beyond ANYTHING the sport has ever seen  who could be right you or the judges? hmmmmm

[NarcissisticDeity]

i never once said a contest was fixed


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Sure you claimed Kevin beat Dorian despite the judges decision

[Earl1972]

Sure you claimed Kevin beat Dorian despite the judges decision

how is that claiming a fix?

and you say i confuse your thoughts:P

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[NarcissisticDeity]

how is that claiming a fix?

and you say i confuse your thoughts:P

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Let me get this straight , Kevin beat Dorian but they judges picked Dorian and you're not claiming its fixed . please elaborate on this

[Hulkster]

or it could be he was just do far and beyond ANYTHING the sport has ever seen  who could be right you or the judges? hmmmmm

you don't get it.

it doesn't matter if dorian was 109000 times better than everyone else, the point is that in order to have impartial judging, the judges still have to follow the protocol of comparing competitors properly to assign them scores which are as accurate as possible.

they were prepared to throw all that out the window and assign a score anyway..

hence, partial judging from the onset.

you can't argue this ND - by definition that is what occured.

period.

[Earl1972]

Let me get this straight , Kevin beat Dorian but they judges picked Dorian and you're not claiming its fixed . please elaborate on this

i said god knows how many times that the judges chose the ugliest body

please elaborate how that is claiming a fix

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[NarcissisticDeity]

you don't get it.

it doesn't matter if dorian was 109000 times better than everyone else, the point is that in order to have impartial judging, the judges still have to follow the protocol of comparing competitors properly to assign them scores which are as accurate as possible.

they were prepared to throw all that out the window and assign a score anyway..

hence, partial judging from the onset.

you can't argue this ND - by definition that is what occured.

period.

pssst retard , they did judge him in the symmetry round and seen enough

[NarcissisticDeity]

Not saying anything was fixed but come on, maybe Dorian sucked a lot of Dick and not just uncle Joes, maybe all the judges wanted their great white hope to win, or maybe they just did'nt follow procedure or the judging format at all and something else went on behind closed doors.
Did you guys hear about Anthony Johnsons ovious eye poke incident from Kevin Burns not being overturned to a DQ or NC by the NSAC. Shady shit happens in some sports for reasons that can not be explained, Matt Hamil Lost to Bisbing in London also. Brock is about to fight Randy for no logical reason other than the big bucks they'll make, point being you do what is financialy best for your organization. One last tid bit, whites sell more magazines than blacks when they're the cover boys.

You have your excuses Dorian has the Sandows

[NarcissisticDeity]

i said god knows how many times that the judges chose the ugliest body

please elaborate how that is claiming a fix

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Did Dorian deserve all of his wins against Kevin Levrone?

[Hulkster]

pssst retard , they did judge him in the symmetry round and seen enough

yeah, they saw this:

 


yet another ND thread that backfires in his face LOL

[RC Money]

You have your excuses Dorian has the Sandows

Of course all we can do here is debate and speculate, so good observation  .
That reminds me of a pretty cool and interesting statement Dorian made in Flex a while ago, something along the lines of how he was told so many times by many people that his physique was ugly, unsymetrical and undeserving of many of his O wins, but at the end of the day he still had his Olympia trophies to comfort him  .
I guess plastic trophies are more important to him than the legacy that his peers and the fans that drive the sport have of him and his questionable O reign  .

[spinnis]

yeah, they saw this:

 


yet another ND thread that backfires in his face LOL

Dorian didnt win that now did he?

[Hulkster]

pssst retard , they did judge him in the symmetry round and seen enough

so, you tell us all how judges can be impartial in scoring a competitor in the mandatories by seeing him standing in the quarter turns only.

you tell us all LOL

 

face ND, you have lost this battle badly.

[NarcissisticDeity]

yeah, they saw this:

 


yet another ND thread that backfires in his face LOL

Thanks for conceding defeat by no being able to touch the statement I posted it shows your desperation

[m8]

Dorian didnt win that now did he?

It was one of Dorian's most dominant wins.

[Hulkster]

Dorian didnt win that now did he?

yes, and he deserved to win overall.

but that is not what is being discussed here.

its the method used to come to that conclusion that is in question.

ie the judges were going to score dorian without even bothering to compare him to his competitors in the muscularity round.


hence, partial judging in favor of dorian.

period.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Of course all we can do here is debate and speculate, so good observation  .
That reminds me of a pretty cool and interesting statement Dorian made in Flex a while ago, something along the lines of how he was told so many times by many people that his physique was ugly, unsymetrical and undeserving of many of his O wins, but at the end of the day he still had his Olympia trophies to comfort him  .
I guess plastic trophies are more important to him than the legacy that his peers and the fans that drive the sport have of him and his questionable O reign  .

yeah I'm buying that story 

[NarcissisticDeity]

so, you tell us all how judges can be impartial in scoring a competitor in the mandatories by seeing him standing in the quarter turns only.

you tell us all LOL

 

face ND, you have lost this battle badly.

Again you have your excuses Dorian has the Sandows all you can do is cry  and the judges were partial to Dorian's physique because it was SUPERIOR to his contemporaries using the Official IFBB judging criteria duh

lmfao the judges partial to Yates its fixed LMFAO great logic , Dorian met the criteria better than everyone it has to be fixed

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, and he deserved to win overall.

but that is not what is being discussed here.

its the method used to come to that conclusion that is in question.

ie the judges were going to score dorian without even bothering to compare him to his competitors in the muscularity round.


hence, partial judging in favor of dorian.

period.

No , no YOU Hulkster claimed Dorian lost to Flex Wheeler in 1993 lol

owned

Hulkster doesn't it suck having to backpeddle after getting the beaten for saying such shit? I wouldn't know

[RC Money]

yeah I'm buying that story 

You don't believe the quote? I'll see if I can find the mag by today or tomorrow. I did not think the quote was anti-Dorian at all, just interesting in correlation to your previous post.