Obama takes back his lead in the Polls

[MattT]

Its now Obama 47% to  McSame 45%..   And Obamas lead in the electoral map has increased, its now Obama 286 to McSame 252   

[jaejonna]

Meanwhile, Palin is reading up on Wikipedia for her upcoming trip to the UN ...   that bitch is a fraud and McCain (head of the COMMERCE COMMITTEE) could of stopped all this finanical shit from happening ...hahahah

[y19mike77]

What poll r u looking at?

McCain takes lead in 'Battleground Poll' (McCain 46%, Obama 40%)

Riding momentum from the Republican convention and buzz from running mate Sarah Palin, McCain has taken the lead in another national poll, but it's still 50 days to the election and there are three presidential debates to come.

The George Washington University "Battleground Poll" released today gives McCain a 46 percent to 40 percent lead over Democrat Barack Obama among likely voters. They were statistically tied in the same survey last month.

Like other surveys, the poll shows that the economy is clearly the most important issue for voters. It also shows McCain leading Obama on being a strong leader (51 percent to 37 percent) and keeping the country safe (57 percent to 33 percent), but Obama with a clear edge on bringing change to Washington (52 percent to 34 percent).

Obama remains ahead on "fighting for people like me" (48 percent to 42 percent) and "uniting the country" (47 percent to 39 percent). But McCain is making up ground on those latter two perceptions.


http://www.boston.com/news/politics/...akes_le_1.html

[MCWAY]

Its now Obama 47% to  McSame 45%..   And Obamas lead in the electoral map has increased, its now Obama 286 to McSame 252   

If you include the "toss-up" states, that is correct (according to RealClearPolitics.com). Without them, it's McCain 227, Obama 207, with 104 EC votes up for grabs.

[240 is Back]

http://pollster.com/ has obama making gains by 20 electoral this week.

Intrade has mccain 49.8, and Obama at 48.9

Tis close.  Methinks Mccain peaked last week though.  it's 1984 all over agian.

[MCWAY]

http://pollster.com/ has obama making gains by 20 electoral this week.

Intrade has mccain 49.8, and Obama at 48.9

Tis close.  Methinks Mccain peaked last week though.  it's 1984 all over agian.

In light of what happened to the Democratic nominee in 1984, you better hope that's not actually true.

[240 is Back]

In light of what happened to the Democratic nominee in 1984, you better hope that's not actually true.

I was referring to a guy being 16 or 18 points down, choosing a woman, and being tied in less than a week...

Only to have that woman's credentials become examined and America realizing she was a gimmic, and giving the other party a landslide of 49 states.

Obviously it'll be closer than that, but I think the more people learn about her, the less supporters she'll have.  Just about NOBODY learns more about her and decides "Hey, I'll vote for her!".  It's usually them learning about her and deciding she's a very hot version of George W. bush...


Gallup: 47-45
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110446/Gallup-Daily-Obama-47...

Reuters: 47-45
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN16428542200...

Research 2000 / Daily Kos: 48-44
http://www.dailykos.com/dailypoll/2008/9/17

McCain’s Palin bounce is over. Obama’s campaign has taken him back into the lead.

They have worked both hard and smart and they have turned things back around.

The EV's still need work, but there is always a 1-week lag in the EV data. I expect things to turn around there by next week if the momentum continues.

[240 is Back]

We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to fix Social Security
We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to fix Medicare
We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to provide health care to ALL Americans
We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to help out Americans losing their homes
We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to help all our veterans returning from war

BUT

We DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY to bail out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
We DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY to bail out Bears Stearns
We DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY to bail out AIG
We DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY to pay for an unnecessary TRILLION DOLLAR war

[MCWAY]

I was referring to a guy being 16 or 18 points down, choosing a woman, and being tied in less than a week...

Only to have that woman's credentials become examined and America realizing she was a gimmic, and giving the other party a landslide of 49 states.

Obviously it'll be closer than that, but I think the more people learn about her, the less supporters she'll have.  Just about NOBODY learns more about her and decides "Hey, I'll vote for her!".  It's usually them learning about her and deciding she's a very hot version of George W. bush...


Gallup: 47-45
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110446/Gallup-Daily-Obama-47...

Reuters: 47-45
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN16428542200...

Research 2000 / Daily Kos: 48-44
http://www.dailykos.com/dailypoll/2008/9/17

McCain’s Palin bounce is over. Obama’s campaign has taken him back into the lead.

They have worked both hard and smart and they have turned things back around.

The EV's still need work, but there is always a 1-week lag in the EV data. I expect things to turn around there by next week if the momentum continues.

The Obama campaign has done nothing of the sort. The news of the economy got thrust back into the spotlight, because of this stuff with AIG and other companies. Many experts agree that such favors Obama.

As for the EC votes, there wasn't a week lag. The increase for Obama is again due to the "toss-up" state (Virginia) being awarded to Obama. According to RCP, Obama's ahead by a mere 0.5 percent, whereas Obama and McCain were tied at 48% yesterday in Virginia.

The score (without the toss-ups) was the same: McCain 227, Obama 207; but the score with the toss-ups was Obama 273, McCain 265.

[y19mike77]

“A national poll we can believe in!” or just good business?
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Consider these numbers: Obama’s up just 5 in New York, 3 in New Jersey and 2 in Washington. Does ‘thisclose’ in deep blue states add up to “A national poll we can believe in!”?

Obama’s losing ground everywhere, not by a little, but by a lot.

His numbers are crumbling among White men, White women, Catholics, Evangelicals, Independents and his base.

So where are pollsters finding Obama supporters to talk to and report a tied race?

Obama is -12 with White women, a group he desperately has to win by at least double digits. Among White males, even the 36% Al Gore and John Kerry got now looks way out of reach.

Catholics, who will be 26% of voters, are running away from him. He is down 59/36 fully 10 points below what Kerry got.

Evangelicals gave George Bush 71% in 2004, showing what they will do when they support a candidate. This year they have a chance to vote for an Evangelical Christian they are wild about. A 75% support is not out of reach.

With Independents Obama is losing 52/37.

The most telling number for Obama is his disappearing Democratic base support which runs from 86% down to 81%. A new poll from Ohio puts it at just 82%
http://www.collinsreport.net/

[dario73]

Its now Obama 47% to  McSame 45%..   And Obamas lead in the electoral map has increased, its now Obama 286 to McSame 252   

Wishful thinking.  HEHEHEH!!

If Obama were to ever agree to a debate in an open forum style with no teleprompters, McCain would win by a landslide. But, alas, the great fake Barack doesn't want that.

[MCWAY]

“A national poll we can believe in!” or just good business?
snip

Consider these numbers: Obama’s up just 5 in New York, 3 in New Jersey and 2 in Washington. Does ‘thisclose’ in deep blue states add up to “A national poll we can believe in!”?

Obama’s losing ground everywhere, not by a little, but by a lot.

His numbers are crumbling among White men, White women, Catholics, Evangelicals, Independents and his base.

So where are pollsters finding Obama supporters to talk to and report a tied race?

Obama is -12 with White women, a group he desperately has to win by at least double digits. Among White males, even the 36% Al Gore and John Kerry got now looks way out of reach.

Catholics, who will be 26% of voters, are running away from him. He is down 59/36 fully 10 points below what Kerry got.

Evangelicals gave George Bush 71% in 2004, showing what they will do when they support a candidate. This year they have a chance to vote for an Evangelical Christian they are wild about. A 75% support is not out of reach.

With Independents Obama is losing 52/37.

The most telling number for Obama is his disappearing Democratic base support which runs from 86% down to 81%. A new poll from Ohio puts it at just 82%
http://www.collinsreport.net/

RealClearPolitics (RCP) doesn't quite agree with Mr. Collin's assessment. It has Obama up by 13 in NY, 6 in NY and 5 in WA. However, Obama's only up by 2 in Michigan and less than 2 in Pennsylvania. If Obama loses one of those states, that could spell BIG TROUBLE for him.

To me, Obama has to snatch a major red state (OH, FL) or a handful of small red states (CO, NV, and NM) to win this thing. That's assuming he holds on to ALL the blue states.

[240 is Back]

If Obama were to ever agree to a debate in an open forum style with no teleprompters, McCain would win by a landslide. But, alas, the great fake Barack doesn't want that.

There will be no teleprompters for the 3 major debates this month and next.

There will be questions asked, with 90, 60, or 30 second responses and rebuttals.

Obama will be about 5 inches taller than Obama, so I think for the first time we're going to see - visually - a major contrast between the men.  Will Obama look tall, athletic, young, and energetic?  Will 90 minutes of standing leave mccain looking irritated or weak?

Mccain is very personable in sit-down conversations, but he does get pissy when someone directly disagrees with him.  I think there will be a few famous moments from these debates that'll sway some people bigtime, one way or another.

[y19mike77]

There will be no teleprompters for the 3 major debates this month and next.

There will be questions asked, with 90, 60, or 30 second responses and rebuttals.

Obama will be about 5 inches taller than Obama, so I think for the first time we're going to see - visually - a major contrast between the men.  Will Obama look tall, athletic, young, and energetic?  Will 90 minutes of standing leave mccain looking irritated or weak?

Mccain is very personable in sit-down conversations, but he does get pissy when someone directly disagrees with him.  I think there will be a few famous moments from these debates that'll sway some people bigtime, one way or another.

For the first time you have made a well informed post.

More then likely that will happen. He is tall and athletic. But hopefully the public will see past that listen to what is being said.

[BM OUT]

Meanwhile, Palin is reading up on Wikipedia for her upcoming trip to the UN ...   that bitch is a fraud and McCain (head of the COMMERCE COMMITTEE) could of stopped all this finanical shit from happening ...hahahah

The fucking dems caused ALL this.Fanny and Freddy were democrat controlled.THEY wanted to give loans for housing to minorities and those who couldnt afford it.Now they are reaping what they sowed.Once again,libs love to give shit away to those who dont deserve it and cant pay for it.

[240 is Back]

For the first time you have made a well informed post.

Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day

[y19mike77]

We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to fix Social Security
We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to fix Medicare
We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to provide health care to ALL Americans
We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to help out Americans losing their homes
We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to help all our veterans returning from war

BUT

We DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY to bail out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
We DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY to bail out Bears Stearns
We DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY to bail out AIG
We DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY to pay for an unnecessary TRILLION DOLLAR war

Again you are right. As a Independent conservative I dont believe anyone should ever be bailed out. You get what you have coming to you.

The only way we can heal is to let the injury run its course learn from it and improve.

[240 is Back]

More then likely that will happen. He is tall and athletic. But hopefully the public will see past that listen to what is being said.

In the extremely close Nixok/JFK campaign, many radio listeners sais Nixon won.  But those who watched on TV saw JFK looking dapper and cool, while nixon was a sweaty mess.  It cost him bigtime.

[MattT]

http://pollster.com/ has obama making gains by 20 electoral this week.

Intrade has mccain 49.8, and Obama at 48.9

Tis close.  Methinks Mccain peaked last week though.  it's 1984 all over agian.

Daily Gallup poll has Obama head by 2 points, and thats the most trusted poll.   These university polls r bs.  Obama was also ahead on intread by about 1 point, he was down like 4 points all last week, so he is making a come back already.  And now Conservatives r starting to question Palin, so thats not a good sign for McSame.

[240 is Back]

Again you are right. As a Independent conservative I dont believe anyone should ever be bailed out. You get what you have coming to you.

The only way we can heal is to let the injury run its course learn from it and improve.

we probably agree on 98% of issues, my friend.

The problem is that some of these banks are too big to fail.  If we're going to guarantee their monies, we need to require them to have some kind of tougher lending standards.  People making 25k a year were getting house loans for $250 or $300k.  The company knew they would get into troble eventually, but they just wanted to get those heavy fees in 2002, 03, 04, while the gettin was good.

Yes, those people deserve to lose the homes.  But if you're going to guarantee the bank loans, then you need to have influence on how they lend.

[y19mike77]

The fucking dems caused ALL this.Fanny and Freddy were democrat controlled.THEY wanted to give loans for housing to minorities and those who couldnt afford it.Now they are reaping what they sowed.Once again,libs love to give shit away to those who dont deserve it and cant pay for it.

Exactly right. Libs love giving stuff to people who don't deserve it. But why not, lets give illegals free health care, homes, and social security checks. Or wellfair checks to woman who never heard of a condemn or keeping there legs closed.

[y19mike77]

we probably agree on 98% of issues, my friend.

The problem is that some of these banks are too big to fail.  If we're going to guarantee their monies, we need to require them to have some kind of tougher lending standards.  People making 25k a year were getting house loans for $250 or $300k.  The company knew they would get into troble eventually, but they just wanted to get those heavy fees in 2002, 03, 04, while the gettin was good.

Yes, those people deserve to lose the homes.  But if you're going to guarantee the bank loans, then you need to have influence on how they lend.

I might have pegged you wrong. I could not agree more. The loans that banks were aproviing were insane. I live in west palm beach, FLA. One of the highest(if not the highest) forclosure rates here in the country. I have friends making $50k a year and buying $500k n $600k. All forclosed on. Interest only loans and balloon payment loans. They go out buy a nice car the bank should never of approved a loan for.
Then BOOMB. It all comes back and bites them in the ass.

[Neurotoxin]

We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to fix Social Security
We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to fix Medicare
We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to provide health care to ALL Americans
We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to help out Americans losing their homes
We don't have ENOUGH MONEY to help all our veterans returning from war

BUT

We DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY to bail out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
We DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY to bail out Bears Stearns
We DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY to bail out AIG
We DO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY to pay for an unnecessary TRILLION DOLLAR war

TRUTH!



NT

[JohnnyVegas]

The fucking dems caused ALL this.Fanny and Freddy were democrat controlled.THEY wanted to give loans for housing to minorities and those who couldnt afford it.Now they are reaping what they sowed.Once again,libs love to give shit away to those who dont deserve it and cant pay for it.

STFU Fat Boy-anyone who only has a 3rd grade education has no business commenting on politics.

[IFBBwannaB]

Its now Obama 47% to  McSame 45%..   And Obamas lead in the electoral map has increased, its now Obama 286 to McSame 252   

What the polls of the G4P community in Dubai,India say?