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United Socialist State Republic of America - thanks, Comrade Bush!
« on: September 19, 2008, 10:18:47 PM »

Picked up this gem listening to the Savage Nation earlier today....

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/18/marketturmoil.creditcrunch?gusrc=rss&feed=uknews

Public losses for private gain: The effective nationalisation of huge sectors of the economy means US taxpayers are picking up the tab for failing banks

Nouriel Roubini
guardian.co.uk
Thursday, September 18, 2008

With the nationalisation of Fannie and Freddie, comrades Bush, Paulson and Bernanke started transforming the US into the USSRA (United Socialist State Republic of America).

This transformation of the US into a country where there is socialism for the rich, the well-connected and Wall Street (ie, where profits are privatised and losses are socialised) continues today with the nationalisation of AIG.

This latest action on AIG follows a variety of many other policy actions that imply a massive – and often flawed – government intervention in the financial markets and the economy: the bail-out of the Bear Stearns creditors; the bail-out of Fannie and Freddie; the use of the Fed balance sheet (hundreds of billions of safe US Treasuries swapped for junk, toxic, illiquid private securities); the use of the other GSEs (the Federal Home Loan Bank system) to provide hundreds of billions of dollars of "liquidity" to distressed, illiquid and insolvent mortgage lenders; the use of the SEC to manipulate the stock market (through restrictions on short sales).

Then there's the use of the US Treasury to manipulate the mortgage market, the creation of a whole host of new bail-out facilities to prop and rescue banks and, for the first time since the Great Depression, to bail out non-bank financial institutions.

This is the biggest and most socialist government intervention in economic affairs since the formation of the Soviet Union and Communist China. So foreign investors are now welcome to the USSRA (the United Socialist State Republic of America) where they can earn fat spreads relative to Treasuries on agency debt and never face any credit risks (not even the subordinated debt-holders who made a fortune yesterday as those claims were also made whole).

Like scores of evangelists and hypocrites and moralists who spew and praise family values and pretend to be holier than thou and are then regularly caught cheating or found to be perverts, these Bush hypocrites who spewed for years the glory of unfettered Wild West laissez-faire jungle capitalism allowed the biggest debt bubble ever to fester without any control, and have caused the biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression.

They are are now forced to perform the biggest government intervention and nationalisations in the recent history of humanity, all for the benefit of the rich and the well connected. So Comrades Bush and Paulson and Bernanke will rightly pass to the history books as a troika of Bolsheviks who turned the USA into the USSRA.

Zealots of any religion are always pests that cause havoc with their inflexible fanaticism – but they usually don't run the biggest economy in the world. These laissez faire voodoo-economics zealots in charge of the USA have now caused the biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression and the nastiest economic crisis in decades.

This article first appeared on Nouriel Roubini's blog and is edited and cross-posted here with the permission of the author. Nicknamed "Dr Doom", Professor Roubini is now widely acknowledged as having accurately predicted the present crises in financial markets.

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Re: United Socialist State Republic of America - thanks, Comrade Bush!
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2008, 10:21:16 PM »
Well, if we are a Socialist States of America, then Obama should love to lead it. This is what he was wanting to turn this country into all along.

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Re: United Socialist State Republic of America - thanks, Comrade Bush!
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2008, 10:23:02 PM »
it could be worse...

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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2008, 10:29:43 PM »

And when you really think about it, it all makes sense.

The Bush-Cheney regime - much like the Clintons - have been working to turn the U.S. into what the Soviet Union used to be.  All the power and wealth is controlled by a small group at the top and everyone below them is pretty much the same...and paying for their lifestyles. 

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2008, 10:33:07 PM »
it could be worse...
He could have a black Pastor ???
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2008, 10:36:41 PM »
He could have a black Pastor ???

Nah, Palin's in the news tonight.

her pastor of at least 10 years was a 'witch hunter' and said all sorts of crazy things about God and other groups of people. 

it's her own little reverend wright.

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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2008, 02:55:14 AM »

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Re: United Socialist State Republic of America - thanks, Comrade Bush!
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2008, 05:38:14 AM »
And when you really think about it, it all makes sense.

The Bush-Cheney regime - much like the Clintons - have been working to turn the U.S. into what the Soviet Union used to be.  All the power and wealth is controlled by a small group at the top and everyone below them is pretty much the same...and paying for their lifestyles. 
i try not to think about it much

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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2008, 08:32:44 AM »
i try not to think about it much

Most people don't.

I've been saying for the past 5 years that 'Bush is a liberal' and dyed-in-the-wool Republicans have flatly denied it, but I never before considered what he really is - a communist. 


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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2008, 08:45:38 AM »
The financial crisis and bailouts are just appauling.  Integrity needs to be reintroduced into loaning practices.  Two things at hand, first and foremost greed and then being encouraged to give loans to people who would not normally qualify.
  I absolutely hate this bailout socialist move...but it sounds like most experts believe this is the best thing to do to avoid further economic instability and depression.  Kind of like...well we are in Iraq already and are neck deep so we have to do "x" now.  I have very little faith in our government these days...both the administration and the congress.  Why the f-ck are we letting government spend so much $???  With Obama (who is more socialism) and McCain, I see neither one of them cutting spending as we should be doing.  People will regret not giving Ron Paul's general ideas more support. 

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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2008, 08:50:09 AM »

Bush says: "Well, me and my buddies are now wealthier than we'd ever imagined.  We screwed you little guys over so these big boys could get rich.  Now shut your mouths and pay the tab."

That's why I hate liberals. 

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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2008, 08:53:09 AM »
Well, if we are a Socialist States of America, then Obama should love to lead it. This is what he was wanting to turn this country into all along.
Obama is a pile of smeg but what gives you indication that he would favor socialism for the rich?

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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2008, 09:17:53 AM »
Well, if we are a Socialist States of America, then Obama should love to lead it. This is what he was wanting to turn this country into all along.

HELLO ASSHOLE...PUT THE GODDAMN BLAME WHERE THE GODDAMN BLAME NEEDS TO GO..GEORGE BUSH. Who made a CLEAR statement about america being under a DICTATORSHIP..."It would be a heck of a lot easier if I was the dictator"...well now you got a dictatorship in america....under Bush

Obama was nowhere around as Bush and his CRONIES pilfered BILLIONS out of america and let us not forget Rumsfeld who watching over the Pentagon "LOST" 4 TRILLION dollars of which when asked where it was shrugged and said "I don't know" and to this day none of this money has ever been recovered. Can we say three TRILLION on this Iraq, Afghanistan war...wasted on another white colonization attempt in the Middle East, let us not forget the SEVENTY TRILLION DOLLARS AMERICA IS IN DEBT ALREADY, and exactly how the hell is america going to pay CHINA BACK THE TRILLIONS IT HAS BORROWED and the BILLIONS it borrows EVERY SINGLE DAY? Now there is about a TRILLION owed to Japan, FIVE TRILLION OWED TO SAUDIA ARABIA, at least a TRILLION owed to European nations and hundreds pf BILLIONS owed to AUSTRALIA (of all places). As it stands now 70 PERCENT of all food in america comes from Central and South America, ALL OIL COMES FROM CANADA, MEXICO, NIGERIA, and VENEZUELA, just about all MANUFACTURED goods comes from CHINA, technology from INDIA, raw goods from around the world, america manufactures NOTHING after having outsourced it to every other nation AND ALL OF THIS MADNESS UNDER BUSH.

REFOCUS, REEXAMINE, REMEMBER THE REAL CULPRIT AND GET OFF OF YOUR RACE POT AND REALIZE IT IS THE WHITE GUY IN POWER THAT IS THE CAUSE OF ALL OF THE PROBLEMS NOT THE BLACK GUY TRYING TO GET INTO OFFICE TO HOPEFULLY CLEAN IT ALL UP...
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Re: United Socialist State Republic of America - thanks, Comrade Bush!
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2008, 09:21:34 AM »
Obama is a pile of smeg but what gives you indication that he would favor socialism for the rich?

Because he's moving towards being rich himself and that's what many rich people do.  The Clintons are rich now.  They weren't rich in 1992, but they've really taken care of their own and now they're one of 'them'. 

I think what the poster was saying, however, is that Obama wants to lead a socialist state...but Obama didn't expect Bush to turn the U.S. into one for him.   

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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2008, 09:26:15 AM »
HELLO ASSHOLE...PUT THE GODDAMN BLAME WHERE THE GODDAMN BLAME NEEDS TO GO..GEORGE BUSH. Who made a CLEAR statement about america being under a DICTATORSHIP..."It would be a heck of a lot easier if I was the dictator"...well now you got a dictatorship in america....under Bush

Obama was nowhere around as Bush and his CRONIES pilfered BILLIONS out of america and let us not forget Rumsfeld who watching over the Pentagon "LOST" 4 TRILLION dollars of which when asked where it was shrugged and said "I don't know" and to this day none of this money has ever been recovered. Can we say three TRILLION on this Iraq, Afghanistan war...wasted on another white colonization attempt in the Middle East, let us not forget the SEVENTY TRILLION DOLLARS AMERICA IS IN DEBT ALREADY, and exactly how the hell is america going to pay CHINA BACK THE TRILLIONS IT HAS BORROWED and the BILLIONS it borrows EVERY SINGLE DAY? Now there is about a TRILLION owed to Japan, FIVE TRILLION OWED TO SAUDIA ARABIA, at least a TRILLION owed to European nations and hundreds pf BILLIONS owed to AUSTRALIA (of all places). As it stands now 70 PERCENT of all food in america comes from Central and South America, ALL OIL COMES FROM CANADA, MEXICO, NIGERIA, and VENEZUELA, just about all MANUFACTURED goods comes from CHINA, technology from INDIA, raw goods from around the world, america manufactures NOTHING after having outsourced it to every other nation AND ALL OF THIS MADNESS UNDER BUSH.

REFOCUS, REEXAMINE, REMEMBER THE REAL CULPRIT AND GET OFF OF YOUR RACE POT AND REALIZE IT IS THE WHITE GUY IN POWER THAT IS THE CAUSE OF ALL OF THE PROBLEMS NOT THE BLACK GUY TRYING TO GET INTO OFFICE TO HOPEFULLY CLEAN IT ALL UP...
truest statement i've ever seen on here.

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Re: United Socialist State Republic of America - thanks, Comrade Bush!
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2008, 09:40:49 AM »
Because he's moving towards being rich himself and that's what many rich people do.  The Clintons are rich now.  They weren't rich in 1992, but they've really taken care of their own and now they're one of 'them'. 

I think what the poster was saying, however, is that Obama wants to lead a socialist state...but Obama didn't expect Bush to turn the U.S. into one for him.   
avoids the question

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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2008, 09:55:30 AM »
Obama is a pile of smeg but what gives you indication that he would favor socialism for the rich?

The indication is that all of his proposed health care and taxing is set as a Socialist setup. He wants to have universal heath care which sounds good, but how do we pay for it? We all pay for it, even pay for the ones that don't work and have no plans to work since they are getting a handout. Make the richer people pay more taxes, Sounds great, but the problem is those rich people own companies that employee middle class people right? Next he is going to raise the Corporate taxes of the companies these "rich" people own,what happens when you raise taxes on a company? You layoff people when they cannot pay the taxes on their business. Income Sharing which is his tax plan is a form of a socialist government, Ask the Canadians. They are a socialist society. 50% of their paychecks go to the government, it helps supposedly pay for heathcare, but it doesn't work that well because most Canadians on the border of the US try to come and get medical care here in the US.

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Re: United Socialist State Republic of America - thanks, Comrade Bush!
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2008, 09:59:49 AM »
HELLO ASSHOLE...PUT THE GODDAMN BLAME WHERE THE GODDAMN BLAME NEEDS TO GO..GEORGE BUSH. Who made a CLEAR statement about america being under a DICTATORSHIP..."It would be a heck of a lot easier if I was the dictator"...well now you got a dictatorship in america....under Bush

Obama was nowhere around as Bush and his CRONIES pilfered BILLIONS out of america and let us not forget Rumsfeld who watching over the Pentagon "LOST" 4 TRILLION dollars of which when asked where it was shrugged and said "I don't know" and to this day none of this money has ever been recovered. Can we say three TRILLION on this Iraq, Afghanistan war...wasted on another white colonization attempt in the Middle East, let us not forget the SEVENTY TRILLION DOLLARS AMERICA IS IN DEBT ALREADY, and exactly how the hell is america going to pay CHINA BACK THE TRILLIONS IT HAS BORROWED and the BILLIONS it borrows EVERY SINGLE DAY? Now there is about a TRILLION owed to Japan, FIVE TRILLION OWED TO SAUDIA ARABIA, at least a TRILLION owed to European nations and hundreds pf BILLIONS owed to AUSTRALIA (of all places). As it stands now 70 PERCENT of all food in america comes from Central and South America, ALL OIL COMES FROM CANADA, MEXICO, NIGERIA, and VENEZUELA, just about all MANUFACTURED goods comes from CHINA, technology from INDIA, raw goods from around the world, america manufactures NOTHING after having outsourced it to every other nation AND ALL OF THIS MADNESS UNDER BUSH.

REFOCUS, REEXAMINE, REMEMBER THE REAL CULPRIT AND GET OFF OF YOUR RACE POT AND REALIZE IT IS THE WHITE GUY IN POWER THAT IS THE CAUSE OF ALL OF THE PROBLEMS NOT THE BLACK GUY TRYING TO GET INTO OFFICE TO HOPEFULLY CLEAN IT ALL UP...

Excuse me Samson, my post had nothing to say about Obama's Race. Maybe it is you that needs to get off of the RACE pot. It is your narrow minded thinking that cannot see the real message Obama's plans are saying. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see his plan is going to make things worst for everyone, not just the rich. You just see one of your Homeys getting a chance to live in the White House and you jump on the bandwagon, you are not even looking at the real issues at hand. Another Obama minion clouded by the smoke and mirrors of one of the biggest Flip Floppers of them all.

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Re: United Socialist State Republic of America - thanks, Comrade Bush!
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2008, 10:18:01 AM »
And when you really think about it, it all makes sense.

The Bush-Cheney regime - much like the Clintons - have been working to turn the U.S. into what the Soviet Union used to be.  All the power and wealth is controlled by a small group at the top and everyone below them is pretty much the same...and paying for their lifestyles. 

i'm calling bullshit

if you all didn't default on your mortgages then the government wouldn't have to be bailing fannie and freddie out.  If you all didn't support the war then gas would be cheaper and the government wouldn't be considering bailing Lehman or whoever it is out.  If you read business week or any financial magazine of any kind, the goal is to recuperate the companies instead of keeping them as government assets.  The government's job is to help the people (such as bailing out a company), if this concept doesn't seem to be to your liking, move to north korea.  Also, believe none of what you read and only half of what you see, or you could go the educated route and actually read a non-online news article  ::) .

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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2008, 10:22:59 AM »
Because he's moving towards being rich himself and that's what many rich people do.  The Clintons are rich now.  They weren't rich in 1992, but they've really taken care of their own and now they're one of 'them'. 

I think what the poster was saying, however, is that Obama wants to lead a socialist state...but Obama didn't expect Bush to turn the U.S. into one for him.   
stop this government conspiracy shit, Clinton's smart and made a lot of money with books, tours, ect.  He's not part of the illuminati or the freemasons, or any of the actual groups which control america.  You might as well be telling us that Frank Sinatra was a robot from mars  ::) .

I like how you're encouraging political debate, but your views are more skewed than an Alaskan governor running for vp and about as intelligent as doing squats on a balance ball.

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Re: United Socialist State Republic of America - thanks, Comrade Bush!
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2008, 10:24:38 AM »
i'm still paying $25,000. a month   no problems but would be nice if it sold.  hopefully with obama elected, it will

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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2008, 10:31:53 AM »
Bush says: "Well, me and my buddies are now wealthier than we'd ever imagined.  We screwed you little guys over so these big boys could get rich.  Now shut your mouths and pay the tab."

That's why I hate liberals. 

uh, bush isn't a liberal

you shouldn't post your opinions anymore, unless you're giving people fodder for the gym  ;D

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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2008, 10:59:09 AM »
stop this government conspiracy shit, Clinton's smart and made a lot of money with books, tours, ect.  He's not part of the illuminati or the freemasons, or any of the actual groups which control america.  You might as well be telling us that Frank Sinatra was a robot from mars  ::) .

I like how you're encouraging political debate, but your views are more skewed than an Alaskan governor running for vp and about as intelligent as doing squats on a balance ball.

The evidence supports my arguments.

Your counter-argument is to say, "Oh, that's not what really happened...even though the numbers and all other evidence say that you're right." 

When the Clintons first rose to national prominence, their combined net worth was about $400,000.  Today, they're worth an estimated $120 million. 

If they're so 'smart', why was I writing anti-NAFTA articles before it was passed and now, almost 15 years later, you've got both Clintons saying "Oops, our bad - we didn't realize that the transfer of so many manufacturing jobs in such a small period of time would actually be bad for the country"? 

You're right, though - they were 'smart' enough to dupe millions of people into thinking that they (the Clintons) are good for America.             


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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2008, 11:01:17 AM »
uh, bush isn't a liberal

He's a textbook liberal, although if you state that he's a socialist or communist, you'll have a good argument.

Do you live in this country (USA)?  Or are you living elsewhere? 


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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2008, 12:34:10 PM »
i'm still paying $25,000. a month   no problems but would be nice if it sold.  hopefully with obama elected, it will
paying 25K a month to what?