Proof bodybuilding isn't a sport

[Bear]

Squash is a vegetable.

Hope this heps

You're a vegetable.

[mogulgangi]

Which is exactly what I just said....

THEN ITS A PROBLEM WITH THE IFBB AND THE PEOPLE WORKING FOR THE SYSTEM....NOT ENOUGH MARKETING SKILLS OR KNOWLEDE OF DEVELOPMENT ....THERE IS BULLSHIT ALL AROUND TV THAT SHOULD HAVE NO PLACE (THE HILLS, DOG RACING, THE HICK OLYMPICS, ECT)
BODYBUILDING CAN BE A HIGH TOUTED SPORT. EVERYONE IN AMERICA IS A WORKOUT ENTHUSIAST...PRO BODYBUILDERS ARE EQUIVALENT TO THE TOP. EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK UP TO THEM.....THE IFFB NEEDS TO STOP MAKING EXCUSES AND BEING SO NEGATIVE ....IFFB NEEDS TO BRING IN THE TOP EXECUTIVES OF EVERY SUPPLEMENT COMPANY AS WELL AS IN THE IFBB, CREATE A PLAN THAT WILL ENABLE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THE ARNOLD OR THE OLYMPIA TO NOT BE IN TV.....

[MCWAY]

THEN ITS A PROBLEM WITH THE IFBB AND THE PEOPLE WORKING FOR THE SYSTEM....NOT ENOUGH MARKETING SKILLS OR KNOWLEDE OF DEVELOPMENT ....THERE IS BULLSHIT ALL AROUND TV THAT SHOULD HAVE NO PLACE (THE HILLS, DOG RACING, THE HICK OLYMPICS, ECT)
BODYBUILDING CAN BE A HIGH TOUTED SPORT. EVERYONE IN AMERICA IS A WORKOUT ENTHUSIAST...PRO BODYBUILDERS ARE EQUIVALENT TO THE TOP. EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK UP TO THEM.....THE IFFB NEEDS TO STOP MAKING EXCUSES AND BEING SO NEGATIVE ....IFFB NEEDS TO BRING IN THE TOP EXECUTIVES OF EVERY SUPPLEMENT COMPANY AS WELL AS IN THE IFBB, CREATE A PLAN THAT WILL ENABLE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THE ARNOLD OR THE OLYMPIA TO NOT BE IN TV.....

People here bleat and wail about paying 10 bucks for an autographed photo. What makes you think they’re going to come out in droves to support bodybuilding on TV?

It isn’t about excuses vs. non-excuses. As the saying goes, if it don’t make dollars, it don’t make sense. TV is very expensive and if you don’t get enough advertisements or benefactors to pony up some dinero, bodybuilding ain’t happening on major TV.

Arnold tried airing his bodybuilding championship in 1999. That didn’t go over too well, especially with the voice-over music, which had everyone posing to heavy metal, even though it was obvious that certain posers were using R&B/hip-hop music.

Then, of course, there was the World Bodybuilding Federation (WBF). These guys were on TV every week (WWF Superstars and WBF BodyStars), and the two championships were shown on PPV, and Vince McMahon had them other TV shows, every chance he could get. He featured them on Regis and Kathie Lee multiple times; and for a whole week, the WBF bodybuilders faced the WWF wrestlers on “Family Feud”.

The IFBB could bring in every brain trust in the supplement world, but that would have little effect, because they can’t connect to the casual fan, as it were. McMahon thought that some of his wrestling fans (many of who like muscular wrestlers) would gravitate towards the WBF. But, it didn’t happen. Many of my friends who were into wrestling thought the WBF was just plain stupid (and these guys were fans of Hulk Hogan, the Ultimate Warrior, and the Legion of Doom).

[V Man]

Heck, last year, when I bought the issue of IronMan, celebrating Arnold’s 60th birthday, the cashier took one look at the cover and gave her unsoliticed opinion, “That’s nasty!!!”. That cover is a (color) pic of Arnold Schwarzenegger, NOT Ronnie Coleman, NOT Jay Cutler, NOT Dexter Jackson.

What did SHE look like?

[MCWAY]

What did SHE look like?

As I recall, she was fairly good-looking.

[Mydavid]

It has nothing to do with anything other than numbers......we don't have big enough numbers to substanciate the TV time.  End of story....

It's al about the ratings..

Tony McEwing on LA's Fox 11 used to report on it awhile back because he was into bodybuilding...Lee Priest was on one morning (seriously can't remember but were you there or was it Titus?)

[dantelis]

It has nothing to do with anything other than numbers......we don't have big enough numbers to substantiate the TV time.  End of story....

It's all about the ratings..

So, Bob, how do we change BB to make it more interesting and to bring in bigger numbers?  We have to stop promoting physiques that are unattainable without massive amounts of steroids, GH and other chemicals.  And mandating a rule that bans glute bearing posing suits and chippendale-style posing routines might alleviate some of the view that BB is a homosexual pursuit.

[Permabulker]

"a backward marathon run by 70y/o midgets:"

  That would be entertaining...  Let me know when you hear of one. 

[Topskin69]

As I see it, the problem we have here, isn't the current state of affairs, but rather our perception of them. We are a SUBCULTURE, and it is time that we started collectively thinking, and acting like one. Who the fuck really wants BB, to be mainstream anyway? Part of the appeal is the fact that it IS so out there.  Its an incredibly self-empowering feeling, knowing that most people lack the discipline, to live such a regimented, and monotonous lifestyle. Also I would dare say that even the illegal aspect of it, also has some appeal. To be a competitive bodybuilder, you essentially have to be a criminal, and this Rogue mentality has some charm in its own right.

That being said.....if one were to REALLY try and reach out to the mainstream with BB, the only way to do it would be with a full scale reality show. When an average person sees a bodybuilder, they only see the end result, and of course walk away, with the impression, that the bodybuilder, is just a narcassitic clown. If people understood the drama/complications surrounding the lifestyle, and what it takes to make it competitively, then I think it would have a bigger following, (though probably not by much.)

M!

[Earl1972]

As I recall, she was fairly good-looking.

"farlry good looking" wasn't good enough for arnold during his prime

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