Bullshit supplements at the convention.

[chainsaw]

All are bullshit except protein,
but I got some "Feel Good Pills" and
My wife got some "Energy Gum".

Both which did nothing. 

What other ones did you guys see.

How do these Co's make money?

[GetItOnNY]

These companies make money by making bullshit products and marketing the shit out of them.Perfect example Creatine Ethyl Ester, there is no such chemical.Companies like Muscle Tech, take a product like Cell Tech which cost $4 a bottle to make, and market the hell out of it.Then charge retail $59 for it so people thinks its really good.All Cell Tech is Dextrose, (sugar)Chinese Creatine ($4.50 per Kilo)and some Alpha Lapoic Acid.You are paying for pretty packaging and marketing my friend.
The good news there are alot of good companies out there that still make good products, but you dont hear alot from them.
Why because we put the money into the product, and raw materials, instead of spending all our money marketing junk.
Good companies you can trust, Bio-Plex, AST Sports Science,Gaspari Nutrition,Kre-Alkalyn,Beverly International,Extreme Labs,these are just a few, there are many more but I cant think of them right now.
The bottom line is there are alot of companies that still take pride in what they make.Usually if a company is marketing themselves very heavily, that means that the money has to come from somewhere.The sad truth is the consumer is the one who suffers from this travesty.Real supplements cost alot of $$$$$ to make because raw materials, shipping and packing can be expensive.
To be honest with you Muscletech makes 400--800% mark up on there products.On our protein we make probably 30-35% big difference ? You bet.Thats why we are not Muscle Tech, because companies like myself have a conscience, money is not my god and never will be.Stick with reputable companies, and you will get reputable products, bottom line.
If it sounds to good to be true it probably is.god bless.....

[emn1964]

"bullshit supplements" is redundant

[GetItOnNY]

Supplements that really work,L-Glutamine, Waxey Maize Starch ( if it is from Potato not Corn),BCAAS, Kre-Alklayn,Milk Isolate, Whey Isolate, 80% Whey Protein Concenentrates, Ephedra,Amino Acids, and Egg Protein ECA stacks.
There is alot more good supplements, but this is just off of the top of my head.They are all tried and true.
No fancy names.If a product has an ingredient like Creatine Ethy Ester Beta Alanine , Sodium Creatine Phosphate or L- Glutamine Ethyl Ester, throw it in the trash!!!!!!!!!.These are made up chemicals.They dont exist !!!!!!!

[The_Punisher]

it seems like a lot of people have been complaining of the lack of "free stuffs' this year at the Olympia Expo. I heard EAS wasn't there. they're the King of all booths. I need some info on what's going on?

[tbombz]

l-glutamine does nothing for a bodybuilder besides make his gut nice and healthy...

[emn1964]

all supplements are bullshit.  just eat a good diet and you're good to go.  no one has ever convinced me that even protein powder is bioavailable after they bake and cook the shit out of it.

[HUTCH]

I got some samples of a energy drink called powerline...And that shit really works well for energy and focus...

[crg]

hey Get whats your company?

[240 is Back]

This gum feels like Deca, honey.

[THEBOSS]

These companies make money by making bullshit products and marketing the shit out of them.Perfect example Creatine Ethyl Ester, there is no such chemical.Companies like Muscle Tech, take a product like Cell Tech which cost $4 a bottle to make, and market the hell out of it.Then charge retail $59 for it so people thinks its really good.All Cell Tech is Dextrose, (sugar)Chinese Creatine ($4.50 per Kilo)and some Alpha Lapoic Acid.You are paying for pretty packaging and marketing my friend.
The good news there are alot of good companies out there that still make good products, but you dont hear alot from them.
Why because we put the money into the product, and raw materials, instead of spending all our money marketing junk.
Good companies you can trust, Bio-Plex, AST Sports Science,Gaspari Nutrition,Kre-Alkalyn,Beverly International,Extreme Labs,these are just a few, there are many more but I cant think of them right now.
The bottom line is there are alot of companies that still take pride in what they make.Usually if a company is marketing themselves very heavily, that means that the money has to come from somewhere.The sad truth is the consumer is the one who suffers from this travesty.Real supplements cost alot of $$$$$ to make because raw materials, shipping and packing can be expensive.
To be honest with you Muscletech makes 400--800% mark up on there products.On our protein we make probably 30-35% big difference ? You bet.Thats why we are not Muscle Tech, because companies like myself have a conscience, money is not my god and never will be.Stick with reputable companies, and you will get reputable products, bottom line.
If it sounds to good to be true it probably is.god bless.....

What company do you own ?

[timfogarty]

what about bbing.com's awards right before the winners were announced at the Olympia?

Muscle Builder Of The Year - BSN NO-Xplode
Fat Loss Product Of The Year - Nutrex Lipo 6
New Product Of The Year - MuscleTech Anabolic Halo
Energy Supplement Of The Year - BSN Atro-Phex

no scientific evidence for any of these

[flexingtonsteele]

These companies make money by making bullshit products and marketing the shit out of them.Perfect example Creatine Ethyl Ester, there is no such chemical.Companies like Muscle Tech, take a product like Cell Tech which cost $4 a bottle to make, and market the hell out of it.Then charge retail $59 for it so people thinks its really good.All Cell Tech is Dextrose, (sugar)Chinese Creatine ($4.50 per Kilo)and some Alpha Lapoic Acid.You are paying for pretty packaging and marketing my friend.
The good news there are alot of good companies out there that still make good products, but you dont hear alot from them.
Why because we put the money into the product, and raw materials, instead of spending all our money marketing junk.
Good companies you can trust, Bio-Plex, AST Sports Science,Gaspari Nutrition,Kre-Alkalyn,Beverly International,Extreme Labs,these are just a few, there are many more but I cant think of them right now.
The bottom line is there are alot of companies that still take pride in what they make.Usually if a company is marketing themselves very heavily, that means that the money has to come from somewhere.The sad truth is the consumer is the one who suffers from this travesty.Real supplements cost alot of $$$$$ to make because raw materials, shipping and packing can be expensive.
To be honest with you Muscletech makes 400--800% mark up on there products.On our protein we make probably 30-35% big difference ? You bet.Thats why we are not Muscle Tech, because companies like myself have a conscience, money is not my god and never will be.Stick with reputable companies, and you will get reputable products, bottom line.
If it sounds to good to be true it probably is.god bless.....

Bro i used extreme labs " nitro xteme 92 " protein powder, and it gave me the worst diarrhea ive ever had in my life. It took me a good 4-5 days for my stomach to recover after taking that stuff.

Whats up with that?? I think the proteins are poor quality and its packed with lactose. Am i correct?

[tbombz]

what about bbing.com's awards right before the winners were announced at the Olympia?

Muscle Builder Of The Year - BSN NO-Xplode
Fat Loss Product Of The Year - Nutrex Lipo 6
New Product Of The Year - MuscleTech Anabolic Halo
Energy Supplement Of The Year - BSN Atro-Phex

no scientific evidence for any of these

Yes there is. Not for the products themselves, but behind individual ingredients on those products.

[timfogarty]

Yes there is. Not for the products themselves, but behind individual ingredients on those products.

please provide it.  (references to peer reviewed scientific journals are best)

here is one for you:  http://www.ast-ss.com/articles/article.asp?AID=117

then there was the Society of Sports Nutrition Conference in Las Vegas in 2004.  the abstracts are no longer on-line, but four different poster sessions showed NO2 supplements had no significant muscle building properties.

and if all these supplements work, why isn't the average guy at the gym any bigger than what they were 20 years ago?

[chainsaw]

it seems like a lot of people have been complaining of the lack of "free stuffs' this year at the Olympia Expo. I heard EAS wasn't there. they're the King of all booths. I need some info on what's going on?

Yeah, the samples of protein bars was a small piece thats been sitting out all day with everyones fingers in it.
Not whole bars.  I got some good protein paks though, but alot of other NO2 enhancers and bullshit I would never put in my body.

[tbombz]

please provide it.

hahah..i don't sell supplements and i don't care if you buy them. so I'm not going to dig up any information - too lazy.

but for example..

lipo 6 - caffeine, synephrine, yohimbine hcl, fatty acids...   all have science behind why they help burn fat

anabolic halo - i believe protein + carbs + extra leucine and phenylalanine ?? all that has science to support recovery when taken post workout

no explode - arginine, caffeine, some amino acids... all good for energy and NO production (better pumps and blood flow)

atro phex - i know for one its going to have caffeine... which is good..I'm not familiar at all with the product though

[temper35]

Bro i used extreme labs " nitro xteme 92 " protein powder, and it gave me the worst diarrhea ive ever had in my life. It took me a good 4-5 days for my stomach to recover after taking that stuff.

Whats up with that?? I think the proteins are poor quality and its packed with lactose. Am i correct?

extreme labs is basically shit and I don't know how it even got in the same sentence as something like Gaspari.

GetitonwithgUYz owns that company I believe.  He also claims to have invented DHEA.  He is just another schmoe in the industry.

[timfogarty]

atro phex - i know for one its going to have caffeine... which is good..

$39 for caffeine.   might as well just go to Starbucks

[delta9mda]

These companies make money by making bullshit products and marketing the shit out of them.Perfect example Creatine Ethyl Ester, there is no such chemical.Companies like Muscle Tech, take a product like Cell Tech which cost $4 a bottle to make, and market the hell out of it.Then charge retail $59 for it so people thinks its really good.All Cell Tech is Dextrose, (sugar)Chinese Creatine ($4.50 per Kilo)and some Alpha Lapoic Acid.You are paying for pretty packaging and marketing my friend.
The good news there are alot of good companies out there that still make good products, but you dont hear alot from them.
Why because we put the money into the product, and raw materials, instead of spending all our money marketing junk.
Good companies you can trust, Bio-Plex, AST Sports Science,Gaspari Nutrition,Kre-Alkalyn,Beverly International,Extreme Labs,these are just a few, there are many more but I cant think of them right now.
The bottom line is there are alot of companies that still take pride in what they make.Usually if a company is marketing themselves very heavily, that means that the money has to come from somewhere.The sad truth is the consumer is the one who suffers from this travesty.Real supplements cost alot of $$$$$ to make because raw materials, shipping and packing can be expensive.
To be honest with you Muscletech makes 400--800% mark up on there products.On our protein we make probably 30-35% big difference ? You bet.Thats why we are not Muscle Tech, because companies like myself have a conscience, money is not my god and never will be.Stick with reputable companies, and you will get reputable products, bottom line.
If it sounds to good to be true it probably is.god bless.....

creatine ethyl esther is made in china by dnp. look for it.

[tbombz]

$39 for caffeine.   might as well just go to Starbucks

HAH yes I agree, I buy bulk caffiene myself.. I think its quite beneficial. But I dont know, there could be alot more to that product than just caffeine.

[GetItOnNY]

Temper another "hater on this board, who talks all kinds of trash, yet does not post pics of himself.
Flexingtonsteel,our Nitro 92 is honestly lactose free, we even have independent lab assays to prove our product is truly 92% Whey protein Isolate, and makes label claim.You can ship the bottle of protein back to us for a free exchange, for another bottle, or product of your choice.We stand behind our products 100%.Please let me know how we can make you satisfied as a customer.Thank you ...god bless....

[GetItOnNY]

creatine ethyl esther is made in china by dnp. look for it.

Yes I know they claim it is Creatine Ethly Ester, but Assay it and you will find out it is just plain Creatine Monohydrate with a fancy name.

[flexingtonsteele]

Temper another "hater on this board, who talks all kinds of trash, yet does not post pics of himself.
Flexingtonsteel,our Nitro 92 is honestly lactose free, we even have independent lab assays to prove our product is truly 92% Whey protein Isolate, and makes label claim.You can ship the bottle of protein back to us for a free exchange, for another bottle, or product of your choice.We stand behind our products 100%.Please let me know how we can make you satisfied as a customer.Thank you ...god bless....

well its cool, i shipped it back to bodybuilding.com........ .but honestly it left a bad taste in my mouth about your products....

I bought it because it was an inexpensive isolate, but i was extremely dissapointed.

Im not trying to bash u on the boards or anything, but just letting people know my experience with your product.

And maybe if u sent me your extreme five stage anabolic stack id be happy

[timfogarty]

HAH yes I agree, I buy bulk caffiene myself.. I think its quite beneficial. But I dont know, there could be alot more to that product than just caffeine.

but you don't know.  and you're not willing to do the research to find out.  despite lots of evidence that the supplement industry in the US has been selling worthless supplements for 40+ years, you're willing to fork over hundreds of dollars and put unknown chemicals into your body with the hope that this one is not a scam.

you can buy anabolic steroids over the counter in Mexico.  but you can't buy most of these supplements, because the Mexican government requires proof that they've been tested for safety and effectiveness.