Very Beginning of Diet: Very Fat, Terrible Shots Because of Mirror

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and the inability to position myself properly; no one to help, oh well, had to stand on a bucket to even get the leg shots...thus far I have failed at every diet I have attempted...mostly because of illness and sleep deprivation/chronic insomnia...here I go again. So I am trying to work within my limitations. In one year I wish to drop about 15 kg. Hopefully I can do it  ...I am fully aware I look like shit, feel free to rub it in, you will just confirm my own opinion.

[wavelength]

Haha, teh god slayer is getting serious again!
Good traps, arms, shoulders, and wheels!

Now just a little flab has to go.

[Deicide]

Haha, teh god slayer is getting serious again!
Good traps, arms, shoulders, and wheels!

Now just a little flab has to go.

A little? More like 15kg; that's not a little.

If I even finish the diet I wonder if I will have any muscle left...

[wavelength]

A little? More like 15kg; that's not a little.

If I even finish the diet I wonder if I will have any muscle left...

You will.
What does your diet look like right now? Do you have carb-up days?

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You will.
What does your diet look like right now? Do you have carb-up days?

Well I don't count calories but I am sure I am in a deficit now.

Hmm...typical day...today for example (training day):

1. Amino Caps/Whey/Casein Shake, 2 medium sized apples, some nuts, Omega 3 capsules
2. NO product
3. Whey/Casein Shake

LIFT

4. Whey/Casein Shake
5. Whey/Casein Shake, some nuts
6. 2 cans of tuna, large serving of boiled broccoli and spinach with black pepper sprinkled on it, Omega 3 capsules
7. Before I go to bed: Amino Tabs, BCCA's, L-Glutamine, Arginine

Non-training day same without the apples...

[G.R.H.]

lose the tattoos! one arm didn't look 1/2 bad.

[Deicide]

lose the tattoos! one arm didn't look 1/2 bad.

I like my tattoos. I am keeping them.

The fat can go however.

[Get Rowdy]

Epic Bic razors, Lynx shower gel and Palmolive shaving cream.

Put some real food in your diet, atm its all shakes and nuts wtf.

You don't look as fat as I thought you were though.

[wavelength]

Well I don't count calories but I am sure I am in a deficit now.

Hmm...typical day...today for example (training day):

1. Amino Caps/Whey/Casein Shake, 2 medium sized apples, some nuts, Omega 3 capsules
2. NO product
3. Whey/Casein Shake

LIFT

4. Whey/Casein Shake
5. Whey/Casein Shake, some nuts
6. 2 cans of tuna, large serving of boiled broccoli and spinach with black pepper sprinkled on it, Omega 3 capsules
7. Before I go to bed: Amino Tabs, BCCA's, L-Glutamine, Arginine

Non-training day same without the apples...

That diet would wear me out.
Especially since the only real meal is canned tuna.
Mad props if you make it on such a diet.

Do you at least have carb-up or even better, pig-out days?

[DK II]

Well I don't count calories but I am sure I am in a deficit now.

Hmm...typical day...today for example (training day):

1. Amino Caps/Whey/Casein Shake, 2 medium sized apples, some nuts, Omega 3 capsules
2. NO product
3. Whey/Casein Shake

LIFT

4. Whey/Casein Shake
5. Whey/Casein Shake, some nuts
6. 2 cans of tuna, large serving of boiled broccoli and spinach with black pepper sprinkled on it, Omega 3 capsules
7. Before I go to bed: Amino Tabs, BCCA's, L-Glutamine, Arginine

Non-training day same without the apples...

WTF??

Do you want to lose fat or starve yourself to death??

You need more calories or you metabolism will slow down.

With this diet, you cannot lose fat. Body goes into starvation mode and burns nothing. Eat good and lift HARDER, that's the key.

[wavelength]

WTF??

Do you want to lose fat or starve yourself to death??

You need more calories or you metabolism will slow down.

With this diet, you cannot lose fat. Body goes into starvation mode and burns nothing. Eat good and lift HARDER, that's the key.

Do you have actual experience with dieting down to single digit?

Because in my experience, the slowing down of metabolism on a low calorie diet is grossly overrated. IMO, the much bigger problem with such a diet is wearing out, both nurtitionally and mentally.

[Get Rowdy]

Slowed metabolism or not, we all agree it's a shitty diet.

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To all the detractors I just want to say that because of business and lack of time the shakes area super easy way to meet my protein needs throughout the day.

3 to 4 shakes a day and a real meal has always worked fairly well in the past. I don't have the time to sit down and eat tons of real meals. Sometimes I will have two 'real' meals. The great thing about the shakes is the fact that they are a perfect time balanced sort Whey/Casein. I will continue on this for a few weeks; if I am not getting the desired results I will reconsider.

The other thing is: food is expensive and I save a lot by just drinking protein shakes.

Anyway, thanks for the input...

[DK II]

Do you have actual experience with dieting down to single digit?

Because in my experience, the slowing down of metabolism on a low calorie diet is grossly overrated. IMO, the much bigger problem with such a diet is wearing out, both nurtitionally and mentally.

wearing out is a sure sign of slow metabolism.

with diets like this, you feel tired all the time, your training will lack as well.

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wearing out is a sure sign of slow metabolism.

with diets like this, you feel tired all the time, your training will lack as well.

The only direct indication of slow metabolism is if your rate of weight loss would slow down on a certain caloric deficit.
I agree with the other two point though, especially since I don't believe you can make up for a good variety of food simply by means of supplements.

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The only direct indication of slow metabolism is if your rate of weight loss would slow down on a certain caloric deficit.
I agree with the other two point though, especially since I don't believe you can make up for a good variety of food simply by means of supplements.

I had more real food today...usually don't have time for it.

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I had more real food today...usually don't have time for it.

No time for eating?
I hope you got time for breathing.

[Deicide]

No time for eating?
I hope you got time for breathing.

It's really about protein intake...getting in 200grams plus is mighty hard with just normal meals.

[DK II]

It's really about protein intake...getting in 200grams plus is mighty hard with just normal meals.

Don't fool yourself.

You can get quite a lot of protein through real food, the REST can be supplemented.

Not the other way round.

[Eisenherz]

Your legs and traps arnt bad. Cant realy tell about the rest, should look better when some of that fats gone.
All in all your physique is better than the average joes which you should give yourself props for.

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Your legs and traps arnt bad. Cant realy tell about the rest, should look better when some of that fats gone.
All in all your physique is better than the average joes which you should give yourself props for.

Well, I used to look worse than the average joe so that says it all. I started lifting late in life (which I regret) but meh...I do what I can. At this point in time I just want to get cut and see my muscles (which are currently buried under layers of fat).

Anyway, thanks for the pseudo compliments...

[ignorance]

sample day;
everything is cooked/made/prepared before going to bed.

meal 1:
250ml of liquid egg whites (2 whole eggs)
1 oz of green veggies (broccoli, green peppers)
1/2 cup of oatmeal
3 cups of water

meal 2:
5 oz of chicken breast
3 oz of yam
1/2 cup of greens
3 cups of water

meal 3: 
5 oz of chicken breast 
3 cups of water
1/2  cup greens

meal 4:
10 oz steak AAA
3 oz yam
1/2 cup of greens
3 cups of water

meal 5
etc. etc. etc.
3 cups of water

That a sample of a 'real food' diet, added more meals off this layout as needed. Supplements are for missed meals, or pre/post workouts.

[Deicide]

sample day;
everything is cooked/made/prepared before going to bed.

meal 1:
250ml of liquid egg whites (2 whole eggs)
1 oz of green veggies (broccoli, green peppers)
1/2 cup of oatmeal
3 cups of water

meal 2:
5 oz of chicken breast
3 oz of yam
1/2 cup of greens
3 cups of water

meal 3: 
5 oz of chicken breast 
3 cups of water
1/2  cup greens

meal 4:
10 oz steak AAA
3 oz yam
1/2 cup of greens
3 cups of water

meal 5
etc. etc. etc.
3 cups of water

That a sample of a 'real food' diet, added more meals off this layout as needed. Supplements are for missed meals, or pre/post workouts.

I wish I had the money for that...

[wavelength]

I wish I had the money for that...

Do you get discount on the protein powder?

When I ate tuna back in the days, I used to mince it into low-fat seasoned cream cheese and added some olives, pickles, and a hard boiled egg (without the yolk if you think it's too fat). Makes it much tastier and would still be mostly protein.

[Cleanest Natural]