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VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« on: September 30, 2008, 09:46:59 PM »
Well this doesnt look good for Palin... Like she needed more challenges.

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VP debate moderator Ifill releasing pro-Obama book
Focuses on blacks who are 'forging a bold new path to political power'

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Posted: September 30, 2008
8:35 pm Eastern


By Bob Unruh
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Gwen Ifill

The moderator of Thursday's vice-presidential debate is writing a book to come out about the time the next president takes the oath of office that aims to "shed new light" on Democratic candidate Barack Obama and other "emerging young African American politicians" who are "forging a bold new path to political power."

Gwen Ifill of the Public Broadcasting Service program "Washington Week" is promoting "The Breakthrough," in which she argues the "black political structure" of the civil rights movement is giving way to men and women who have benefited from the struggles over racial equality.

Ifill declined to return a WND telephone message asking for a comment about her book project and whether its success would be expected should Obama lose. But she has faced criticism previously for not treating candidates of both major parties the same.

During a vice-presidential candidate debate she moderated in 2004 – when Democrat John Edwards attacked Republican Dick Cheney's former employer, Halliburton – the vice president said, "I can respond, Gwen, but it's going to take more than 30 seconds."

Well, that's all you've got," she told Cheney.

Ifill told the Associated Press Democrats were delighted with her answer, because they "thought I was being snippy to Cheney." She explained that wasn't her intent.

But she also was cited in complaints PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler said he received after Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin delivered her nomination acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., earlier this month.

Some viewers complained of a "dismissive" look by Ifill during her report on Palin's speech. According to Getler, some also said she wore a look of "disgust" while reporting on the Republican candidate.

At that time she said, "I assume there will always be critics and just shut out the noise. It is surprisingly easy."

Ifill, who also works with her network's "NewsHour," is making preparations to moderate this week's debate between the two candidates for vice president, Palin and Democratic Sen. Joe Biden.. She told BlackAmericaWeb.com she thinks debates "are the best opportunity most voters have to see the candidates speaking to issues."

She said she is concerned only about getting straight answers from candidates.

"You do your best to get candidates to answer your question. But I also trust the viewers to understand when questions are not answered and reach their own conclusions," Ifill told BlackAmericaWeb.

"Four years ago, when neither John Edwards nor Dick Cheney proved capable of answering a question about the domestic epidemic of AIDS among African-American women, viewers flooded me with reaction," she said.

She said she will make her own decisions about what questions to ask, adding "the big questions matter."

In the Amazon.com promotion for her book, Ifill is described as "drawing on interviews with power brokers," such as Obama and former Secretary of State Colin Powell.

In an online video promoting her book, she is enthusiastic about "taking the story of Barack Obama and extending it."

It focuses on four people, "one of them Barack Obama of course," she said.

"They are changing our politics and changing our nation," she said.

On Amazon.com, Ifill is praised for her "incisive, detailed profiles of such prominent leaders as Newark Mayor Cory Booker, Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick, and U.S. Congressman Artur Davis of Alabama."

"Ifill shows why this is a pivotal moment in American history," the review says.

She told AP her view of Obama: "I still don't know if he'll be a good president."

She also describes how she met him at the 2004 Democratic convention and since then has interviewed the Illinois senator and his family.

She also boasted that by the time of the debate, "I'll be a complete expert on both" Palin and Biden.

The debate will be held at Washington University in St. Louis, which has posted information about the evening's events online.

Ifill's profile there describes her as a longtime correspondent and moderator for national news programs and includes her service as moderator of the 2004 debate between Edwards and Cheney.

However, there's no mention of her upcoming book. Nor does the website for the Commission on Presidential Debates, which is organizing the meetings of the candidates, mention her book.



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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2008, 09:49:17 PM »
LOL @ pre-empting palin's meltdown.  i saw this as their 'diffuse' story.


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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2008, 09:53:25 PM »
Freaking amazing. You have the head of Fannie Mae working for Obama, you have Obama who worked for ACORN and now this!!

Freaking sad!

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2008, 09:54:34 PM »
It must be nice for Obama/Biden to have the cards stacked for you.

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2008, 09:55:48 PM »
LOL @ pre-empting palin's meltdown.  i saw this as their 'diffuse' story.



Its not pre-empting anything. Its a fact sir.

Im just saying. She is doing a good enough job herself. She doesnt need help to fail at this point.

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2008, 09:59:32 PM »
it does look bad.  a conflict you'd like to avoid.  Good on drudge for exposing this in a big way, headlined.  however, she asks both candidates the same questions. 

If palin brings her game, she delivers the election to Mccain, hands down.  MAJOR bounce if she owns biden.

If she looks like she has in interviews - like a blubbering idiot - you can blame anyone you want, but the responsibility is on Palin.

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2008, 10:00:52 PM »
it does look bad.  a conflict you'd like to avoid.  Good on drudge for exposing this in a big way, headlined.  however, she asks both candidates the same questions. 

If palin brings her game, she delivers the election to Mccain, hands down.  MAJOR bounce if she owns biden.

If she looks like she has in interviews - like a blubbering idiot - you can blame anyone you want, but the responsibility is on Palin.

Agree. I might hide my eyes during that debate.....  :'(

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2008, 10:01:34 PM »
Freaking amazing. You have the head of Fannie Mae working for Obama, you have Obama who worked for ACORN and now this!!

Freaking sad!

Mc Cains CAMPAIGN MANAGER was on Fannie Maes pay Roll until last month... Please comment on this...

The HEAD of Fannie Mae? Please go correct your Facts... a Fannie Mae EXEC left them and has been working for Obamas campaign for a while now...

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2008, 10:02:45 PM »
WOW - This is scathing!!

She clearly supports John McCAin

Jesus Christ - this kind of partinsanship should be left in church where it belongs




ELECTION 2008
VP debate moderator Ifill releasing pro-Obama book
Focuses on blacks who are 'forging a bold new path to political power'

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Posted: September 30, 2008
8:35 pm Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily





She told AP her view of Obama: "I still don't know if he'll be a good president."

She also describes how she met him at the 2004 Democratic convention and since then has interviewed the Illinois senator and his family.

She also boasted that by the time of the debate, "I'll be a complete expert on both" Palin and Biden.






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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2008, 10:04:37 PM »
Both candidates are surrounded by top financial guys.  This is fuct up, but required, as they're the only ones who understand the complex economy.  No man/woman running understands things at that level.

So you can't shit on either guy - they're both smart enough to surround themselves with people who run the economy, cause that's the only way to guide or fix it.

This moderator thing is a conflict, but both candidates get the same questions, and they either know the answers or they don't.  

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2008, 10:05:36 PM »
WOW - This is scathing!!
She clearly supports John McCAin

I didn't catch that.  You might be right.  That's a pretty rough thing for her to say about Obama.

Do you think she'll give Palin easy Qs on purpose?

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2008, 10:06:41 PM »
Both candidates are surrounded by top financial guys.  This is fuct up, but required, as they're the only ones who understand the complex economy.  No man/woman running understands things at that level.

So you can't shit on either guy - they're both smart enough to surround themselves with people who run the economy, cause that's the only way to guide or fix it.

This moderator thing is a conflict, but both candidates get the same questions, and they either know the answers or they don't.  

I totally agree... the difference is... McCains Campaign manager was getting money up til last month, as far as I know thats illegal once you start running a national campaign.

One of Clintons top advisors had to be removed due to the same thing...

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2008, 10:07:12 PM »
Both candidates are surrounded by top financial guys.  This is fuct up, but required, as they're the only ones who understand the complex economy.  No man/woman running understands things at that level.

So you can't shit on either guy - they're both smart enough to surround themselves with people who run the economy, cause that's the only way to guide or fix it.

This moderator thing is a conflict, but both candidates get the same questions, and they either know the answers or they don't.  

I disagree

I don't thing economy or the credit markets are all that complicated

I also don't think McCAin is smart enough

i.e. it's not that complicated but McCain is still too dumb to understand or ....best case he get's it and just doesn't give a fuck

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2008, 10:09:53 PM »
I didn't catch that.  You might be right.  That's a pretty rough thing for her to say about Obama.

Do you think she'll give Palin easy Qs on purpose?

I was kidding

if anything, I think Ifill will be very gentle on Palin



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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2008, 10:13:02 PM »
I didn't catch that.  You might be right.  That's a pretty rough thing for her to say about Obama.

Do you think she'll give Palin easy Qs on purpose?

Funny how you went from "they both have to answer the same questions" when you thought Biden had the edge to "Palin might get easy questions" when you changed your mind  ;D

Pathetic

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2008, 10:20:53 PM »
i thought it'd be fun to mess with the mccain supporters.

she should probably hand off the interview to someone else, to be honest.  reporters arent' supposed to comment for good reason.

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2008, 10:53:42 PM »
Mc Cains CAMPAIGN MANAGER was on Fannie Maes pay Roll until last month... Please comment on this...

The HEAD of Fannie Mae? Please go correct your Facts... a Fannie Mae EXEC left them and has been working for Obamas campaign for a while now...

1. What does this have to do with the VP Debate.

2. Rick Davis (dude in question) was a Consulttant whos company was doing bussiness with Fannie Mae. He apparently left the consulting firm in 2006.  This is really irrelevant as its really a non issue. Look at who Fannie and Freddie got behind with their political contributions. They have been in bed with the democratic leadership for years (Barney Frank, Pelosi, Chris Dodd) and recently been huge Obama supporters.

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2008, 05:52:46 AM »
Would that be the same Gwen Ifill that's personal friends with Condie?  Does anyone watch Washington Week in Review?

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2008, 07:01:49 AM »
How does asking the exact same question to both candidates constitute as "rigging" for one side.

Now if you want to say that the debate is rigged for Obama/Biden because McCain made a stupid choice in VP, then you have a point.  If not, you only have excuses.

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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2008, 08:15:10 AM »
Questions are being raised about PBS anchor Gwen Ifill's objectivity after news surfaced that she is releasing a new book promoting Barack Obama and other black politicians who have benefited from the civil rights struggle.

Ifill is moderating Thursday night's vice-presidential debate between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin. Her book, "The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama," is due to be released about the same time the next president takes the oath of office. 

In her book, Ifill contends that the black political structure of the civil rights movement has cleared the way for post-racial politicians to ascend to new heights.

Now some are wondering whether Ifill can be fair and balanced, and whether she should be the moderator of Thursday's 9 p.m. ET debate.

"Clearly her books aren't going to do as well unless Obama wins, so it looks like she has some investment, literally, in one candidate or the other. And she's supposed to be sitting there as a neutral arbiter during the debate," said NPR's Juan Williams, a FOX News contributor. "I think the world of Gwen Ifill but I know there's a perception problem."

Web site WolrdNetDaily first reported on the Ifill book Tuesday night.

FOX News political analyst Michelle Malkin argued in a post on National Review that Ifill is "so far in the tank for the Democratic presidential candidate, her oxygen delivery line is running."

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/01/vp-debate-moderator-pens-pro-obama-book/

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2008, 08:24:35 AM »
Maybe Fox can get one of their "fair and balanced" sock puppets to fill in.


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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2008, 08:27:58 AM »
If Palin brings her game, she delivers the election to Mccain, hands down.  MAJOR bounce if she owns biden.
True!

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Re: VP Debate Rigged for Obama?
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2008, 08:31:19 AM »
True!

We've already seen her "game"

Her only hope is to bring someone else's game...and voice too