Tricep Tendonitis

[koolie1]

Anyone ever have this injury? I have been diagnosed with it. Not sure what exercise caused it but skull crushers are definitly what "fried" it. Can other muscle groups be worked besides triceps? What are some recovery times people had for this?

[koolie1]

Not one dam person?

[koolie1]

Funny how all you "getbiggers"  have opinions on worthless topices like "Coleman VS Yates" but when you ask an intelligent question its all blanks.

[Get Rowdy]

I don't think many people check the Injury board unless they become injured themselves.

[GoneAway]

Funny how all you "getbiggers"  have opinions on worthless topices like "Coleman VS Yates" but when you ask an intelligent question its all blanks.

Relax, man. To be honest, I wouldn't take what is said on these boards as gospel.

Go to your local physical therapist or sports injury center and ask their advice. If that fails, go to your local gym(s) and get the advice of a Personal Trainer or the like that specialises in rehabilitation.

[Griffith]

This is from one of my other posts in the training board:

I noticed that often when I have elbow pain there's spasm in my triceps. It feels like knots in the muscle except you're not aware of it until you start poking around in that area. It's basically a trigger point that causes referred pain in the joint.
It can also impinge nerves and cause less blood circulation to the area where pain is felt.
Often if I pushed the muscle I could actually feel a tingling sensation running through the joint and right down my arm, giving a sensation of almost immediate relief.

The same applies to other parts of the body as well, I've read some studies that indicate that 80% of joint pain is muscular related and referred pain. Doctors like to diagnose 'tendinitis' very quickly but it's actually takes quite a lot to get this condition and is really quite rare.

For immediate relief of muscle spasm, acupuncture works the best in my experience. But if it's something like my elbow, then I just press it with my fingers or put a rubber ball against a wall and push my arm into that.

I've quickly gotten rid of a lot so-called injuries which I at first thought were very serious but were just muscles in very very tight spasm.

Here's an example of how much of an effect spasm can have:
About 2 months ago I thought I tore my biceps, the muscle was literally moving moving along quite strangely and it was almost impossibe to do a curl. The reason once again was the triceps. It was in severe spasm but I was unaware of it, instead I felt pain in the biceps and the tendon connecting to my elbow.
But within days after getting rid of the spasm my arm was fine.
If I had gone to a doctor it would have probably been cortisone and as usual the doctor would focus on the joint instead of the MUSCLES causing the referred pain

When one muscle contracts, the opposing muscle stretches, but if it is in spasm it can't stretch properly as the other contracts and this is what causing the opposing muscle to feel weak and for the tendons to feels pain. The muscle is so tight that it literally pulls against the tendon, often near the bone and the joint.

So get rid of the spasm, do some stretches and the 'tendonitis' will go away.
But always reduce the spasm before stretching otherwise you make the spasm worse then it contracts even more.

[koolie1]

No muscle spasms at all. Pain is in the elbow and Dr has diagnosed as tendonitis. Going to PT tomorrow. Will post anything new.

[Get Rowdy]

I've been having pain in my right triceps lately, and the muscle spasm (knot) was not in my actual triceps but in my upper back and traps, most likely compressing my radial nerve that innervates the triceps.  I push my thumb and fingers Really hard into the knots in my traps and it does help abit, but I think I might need to get some professional deep tissue massage or something.

[Ursus]

I had it. Was very hard to grip and when i did it was so painful to release. I was trianing for teh world championships and therefore was not able to take time out.

After comp it was agony for a few days. If it was jolted teh wrong way it was sore.

I rested fully for a bout 5-6 days.

Then went back to gym

100lbs on bar few sets

5 days later 120

140 etc all very high reps low weight

I build up to my normal weight form then...then took it easy. It was doing so many dips done it to me. occassionally i have a little trouble form it though nothing to major. In hindsight i regret trying to work through it however it is done now and i have learned form it. LOL i actually feel it now as i type it ad it seems a little flatter though i dont know it it was like that before.

Either way rest. Drop skull crushers...plenty of othe rgreat exercises and good luck

any otehr questions about it ill go into detail as ai realise i was extremly vague on this sibject

[chaos]

Rest, stretch, rest.

Lay off the heavy workouts, go light, high reps, if it starts to hurt, stop.

Will take awhile to get over it completely.

[koolie1]

I had it. Was very hard to grip and when i did it was so painful to release. I was trianing for teh world championships and therefore was not able to take time out.

After comp it was agony for a few days. If it was jolted teh wrong way it was sore.

I rested fully for a bout 5-6 days.

Then went back to gym

100lbs on bar few sets

5 days later 120

140 etc all very high reps low weight

I build up to my normal weight form then...then took it easy. It was doing so many dips done it to me. occassionally i have a little trouble form it though nothing to major. In hindsight i regret trying to work through it however it is done now and i have learned form it. LOL i actually feel it now as i type it ad it seems a little flatter though i dont know it it was like that before.

Either way rest. Drop skull crushers...plenty of othe rgreat exercises and good luck

any otehr questions about it ill go into detail as ai realise i was extremly vague on this sibject

If you had trouble gripping then you have/had tennis elbow, not tricep tendonitis.

[Ursus]

My tri was so bad also and so weak anything over 240 on the bench i never had the strength. So so weak. Then again i could be wrong and the tennis elbow would have made it this way

[pumpster]

Not as much traffic here on the injury board, then again a simple search of previous threads would've revealed relevant threads.

Very typically due to extensions, from repetitive stress. Take a break, try to continue other triceps exercises. If not possible, take a complete break from triceps exercises and continue with other areas if possible.

The bottom line is to rest the elbows from the exercise that causes it, then after healing takes place play with the variables to come up with something that won't create quite the same effect, because it will return otherwise. Some variables to adjust include slight modifications to the exercise that might not cause the same stress, and/or use higher reps in the 12-20 range, or other versions of extensions. Also keep the area warm by limiting rests between sets to 60 seconds or less.

Healing time varies so trying to suggest what's appropriate could be completely irrelevent, depending on the person. My own experience the problem can sometimes go away rather quickly once the problem-causing exercise is isolated and changed.

[Hedgehog]

Anyone ever have this injury? I have been diagnosed with it. Not sure what exercise caused it but skull crushers are definitly what "fried" it. Can other muscle groups be worked besides triceps? What are some recovery times people had for this?

few tips:
keep your arms straight 24/7 as much as possible.that means even when you sleep if possible.
Eat ibuprofen for 6-7 days.
Drop any direct triceps work for the next 2-3 weeks. Just stick to benchpress, shoulder press and other excersises that hits the triceps too.

May want to cut down some on the biceps work to.
Then you obviously have to look on the training volume you're putting on your elbows.
After these weeks once your rid of the problem, find a proper volume of work.   

[koolie1]

My tri was so bad also and so weak anything over 240 on the bench i never had the strength. So so weak. Then again i could be wrong and the tennis elbow would have made it this way

Pain over 400 lbs bench press.

Has been going on for 6 weeks now, with NO weight training. No imporovment. HAd an MRI and going to see doc (Dumb ass bitch, going to get 3rd opinion I'm sure but have to keep the 8 dollar an hour medical employees paid with all my co-pays) on Weds. Keep everyone updated after that.

[Ursus]

hmmm...maybe try working with it., 50lb presses. dont grip the bar., its so light you should be ok. high reps.

[SCRUBS]

I am dealing with a very similar, if not the same thing. I have pain in the outer head (?) of my left tricep and the pain shoots down my arm into my forearm when i bench pressing. Aches after i`m finished benching. I am going to try going lighter, no pressdowns, or skull crushers and see what happens???

Koolie1; please keep us updated.

[koolie1]

Na, my pain is right on the ball fo the elbow. Showed MRI to the surgeon. She said there is fluid buildup wicj could be tendonitis or a partial rupture. Has been 8 weeks and doenst seem to be getting much better. I have decided to start lifting again, all muscle groups except direct tricep work. If it still hurts at Christmas I am going to have surgery - which I REALLY do not want to have since I had distal bicep tendon surgery last Christmas. I will keep you posted as I start to work out again this week.

[cheftim]

Same thing is happening to me. I'm in constant 24hr a day pain with the right elbow. Went to Doctors. Stretching, ice, heat pads. I do all of it and it still hurts all the time! The doctor says she wants to see me three times a week? 30$ dollar co-pay 50$ deductable. I'm living with the pain. Over head extentions did it to me.

[BatistaSL]

Pls keep this thread going...

I also have pain in the top of the elbow when doing scull crushers. when doing this i get so much pain.. tears comes out. lately it began to hurt even when i am sleeping.

pls let us know your improvement.

[thewickedtruth]

first.. stop doing the shit that's irritating it.

rehab it with alot of super light super HIGH rep press downs and very light hammer curls just like you would an elbow. If you have anti imflammatories..take'em.   Heat the area too and only apply cold if the heat induces substantial swelling to reduce the influx of blood. The area will feel with oxygenated and nutrient rich healing blood to make the repair faster.


hopefully you don't have to repeat

[wes]

I've been having pain in my right triceps lately, and the muscle spasm (knot) was not in my actual triceps but in my upper back and traps, most likely compressing my radial nerve that innervates the triceps.  I push my thumb and fingers Really hard into the knots in my traps and it does help abit, but I think I might need to get some professional deep tissue massage or something.

Dude,I thought I was alone on this!!!!!!

At first I had a pinched nerve in my neck,which later travelled to my roight scapula/lat area,then into my tricep/elbow.

Some of my lifts are down 40-70 pounds.

I`m still training,but with less rest,super-sets,higher reps,etc. etc.

IT SUX BIGTIME TO BE LIMITED IN YOUR TRAINING!!

[Get Rowdy]

Dude,I thought I was alone on this!!!!!!

At first I had a pinched nerve in my neck,which later travelled to my roight scapula/lat area,then into my tricep/elbow.

Some of my lifts are down 40-70 pounds.

I`m still training,but with less rest,super-sets,higher reps,etc. etc.

IT SUX BIGTIME TO BE LIMITED IN YOUR TRAINING!!

Yeah man I think mine started when I slept awkwardly on a friend's couch, then it continued to get worse from there.  I've basically stopped all triceps work for the last month, but gonna start back with some light stuff soon. Does fuckin suck.

Have you had any chiropractic/acupuncture/deep tissue work done to help? Any luck there?

[wes]

No,I have seen no one for it yet..............kinda` hoping it goes away on its own,but no such luck yet.

Fucking weird thing is,I never injured it in or out of the gym.

Good luck with it bro.........if you find anything that helps,please let me know.

[cheftim]

My elbow has been in 24hr pain. Well my friend gave me this super duper muscle massager vibrator thing. I have been massaging my elbow thirty minutes in the day and most of the time thirty minutes at night. It is definitely helping. Still unconfortable but nothing like the way it used to be.