Is fruit a bad source of carbs?

[Deicide]

Because of the fructose?

What are peoples' ideas on this?

[QuakerOats]

eat it before you train you'll be fine, too many vitamins in fruit to not eat it.

[The True Adonis]

Eat as much as you like to meet your needs.
As I have said earlier, it does not make a difference at all what you eat as long as your simple requirements are met.

What food you choose means nothing and you will look the same.

[MB_722]

The Evils of Fructose
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_diet_nutrition_bodybuilding/the_evils_of_fructose

[QuakerOats]

The Evils of Fructose
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_diet_nutrition_bodybuilding/the_evils_of_fructose

[Cleanest Natural]

Eat as much as you like to meet your needs.
As I have said earlier, it does not make a difference at all what you eat as long as your simple requirements are met.

What food you choose means nothing and you will look the same.

oh brother

[nder98]

Eat 2 bananas and 5 units of humalog after you workout and you'll be fine

[NaturalWonder83]

fruits are good
apple
blueberry
peaches
citrus fruits
banananna
sergio oliva recccomend u to eat fruit in your diet i reads in his book section in some books i read ona rms trianing routine he did

[NaturalWonder83]

fruits are very good
apple
bananna
blueberry
peach
citrus

segio oliva mention in chapter of some book to eat lots of fruit to fuel workouts

eat up friend

[Deicide]

So fructose cannot be utilised as muscle glycogen? Only starches should be used?

[QuakerOats]

So fructose cannot be utilised as muscle glycogen? Only starches should be used?

you don't honestly believe that do you?

[Deicide]

you don't honestly believe that do you?

I am asking a question; I just read the article.

[flexingtonsteele]

The Evils of Fructose
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_diet_nutrition_bodybuilding/the_evils_of_fructose

"oh brother" just check out the chics fat flabby "wing like" arms who wrote the article's picture.

id definetely take it with a grain of salt.

[jwb]

haney used whole fruits in his diets.

albert beckles had a diet back in 81 or so which was loads of fish and small amounts of ripe pineapple for training energy.

[onlyme]

I love fruit (pies)

[The_Leafy_Bug]

I love fruit (pies)

Hows the diet keith? Did you ever lose that 100 pounds by the Arnold? I've noticed you have been posting alot about food lately.

[Necrosis]

fructose is mainly stored as liver glycogen, this is a fact. Fructose easily leads to fat gain.

Fruit when liver glycogen levels are low is good, morning, and in a fasting state. Carb cycling incorperates fruits into the diet to remain in a fed state. Fruit late at night or with ample fats is a bad idea.

[onlyme]

Hows the diet keith? Did you ever lose that 100 pounds by the Arnold? I've noticed you have been posting alot about food lately.

Cause I haven't been eating shitty for well over a month.  I am craving but hangin in there.  And I gotta tell you something.  I saw your latest pics and you look great now.  I still think you looked like a concentration camp guy before but you are filling out and look real good  I give you props for that.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

Cause I haven't been eating shitty for well over a month.  I am craving but hangin in there.  And I gotta tell you something.  I saw your latest pics and you look great now.  I still think you looked like a concentration camp guy before but you are filling out and look real good  I give you props for that.

Thanks man. Hopefully ill be a light heavy next year. Good luck.

[Eisenherz]

fructose is mainly stored as liver glycogen, this is a fact. Fructose easily leads to fat gain.

Fruit when liver glycogen levels are low is good, morning, and in a fasting state. Carb cycling incorperates fruits into the diet to remain in a fed state. Fruit late at night or with ample fats is a bad idea.

O rly?
Well when I maintain weight I eat about 10+ bananas along with other fruit, allot of it is at night too, with lots of fats, saturated ones too, I dont gain fat, so i disagrees with your theories.

[The True Adonis]

There is VERY little Fructose in most fruits.  Do you people even realize that you would never get an abundance of fructose unless you ate Pounds and Pounds and Pounds of fruit.

To find out the effective fructose content of various fruits, see http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

Type in your fruit and you will see for yourself how little fructose accounts for various fruits.

Go ahead and have your apple (9.3) AND a banana (6) AND some blueberries (3.7) AND a peach (4.1) AND some strawberries (3) AND an orange (4.6) AND some cantaloupe (4.5) AND some blackberries (4.3) AND a nectarine (3.1) AND some watermelon (5.1) AND a tomato (1.4).

That would be 49.1 grams. And that's a lot of fruit. More than anyone eats I would guess. And that's assuming the liver holds EXACTLY 50 grams, and that none of it would be burned during the day. And, for that matter, that the liver has absolutely no fructose stored at the start of the day.

See what I'm getting at? It's not worth worrying about. If you're not reaching your goals, I seriously doubt it's because of that apple you had.

[The True Adonis]

The Evils of Fructose
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_diet_nutrition_bodybuilding/the_evils_of_fructose

She's pulling the idea that liver converted fructose to fat goes 'straight to stubborn fat' out of her ass


this:
"When a high fructose diet (about 50-60% of total energy intake) is given to rats, they present symptoms of the Metabolic Syndrome, which is the precursor to full-blown diabetes and heart disease."

is both retarded and irrelvant. who cares what happens to rats fed 60% fructose? a piece of fruit has hardly any Fructose.
her tangent to HFCS is irrelevant as well. the amount of fructose you can get in a normal soda (containing hundreds of calories) or other foods containing HFCS is magnitudes higher than a piece of fruit.

for example, her reference 3. note, 250 grams fructose per day. that's ~35 apples worth. yeah, an apple at breakfast is what's keeping you fat

Who eats 35 apples a day?  Even if you did, you would burn the amount out of the liver in due time.

[Necrosis]

There is VERY little Fructose in most fruits.  Do you people even realize that you would never get an abundance of fructose unless you ate Pounds and Pounds and Pounds of fruit.

To find out the effective fructose content of various fruits, see http://www.reducetriglycerides.com/d...ugar_print.htm


Go ahead and have your apple (9.3) AND a banana (6) AND some blueberries (3.7) AND a peach (4.1) AND some strawberries (3) AND an orange (4.6) AND some cantaloupe (4.5) AND some blackberries (4.3) AND a nectarine (3.1) AND some watermelon (5.1) AND a tomato (1.4).

That would be 49.1 grams. And that's a lot of fruit. More than anyone eats I would guess. And that's assuming the liver holds EXACTLY 50 grams, and that none of it would be burned during the day. And, for that matter, that the liver has absolutely no fructose stored at the start of the day.

See what I'm getting at? It's not worth worrying about. If you're not reaching your goals, I seriously doubt it's because of that apple you had.

i agree that the benefits of fruit far outweigh the negative. I think the best diet for metabolic health and other health markers is a vlcd, i have read enough research lately to move me from a moderate to very low carbohydrate diet. I'm going to bed but ill respond to this post tom specifically about fructose and liver glycogen storage.

[The True Adonis]

i agree that the benefits of fruit far outweigh the negative. I think the best diet for metabolic health and other health markers is a vlcd, i have read enough research lately to move me from a moderate to very low carbohydrate diet. I'm going to bed but ill respond to this post tom specifically about fructose and liver glycogen storage.

I eat a ton of Carbs from all sources. Sugary desserts, Breads, Ice Cream....From anywhere.  Number one thing in my diet and I am willing to bet I am leaner than you.

[ASJChaotic]

IT'S HOW MUCH YOU EAT NOT WHAT YOU EAT



Hope this helps all you obese getbiggers