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« on: October 13, 2008, 10:00:51 AM »
Obama website lies about ACORN ties
Campaign tries to distance senator from group convicted of voter fraud
Posted: October 12, 2008
By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama's campaign is misleading the public regarding the presidential candidate's ties to a radical leftist organization that has admitted to major financial improprieties and has been convicted in numerous, massive voter fraud scandals.

Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign Friday stepped up its efforts to draw attention to Obama's alleged relationship with ACORN, or the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, holding a conference call in which McCain spokesman Rick Davis accused Obama of making "very inconsistent remarks about what his relationship with this organization is."

In response to the increased focus on ACORN, the Obama campaign last week claimed on its "Fight the Smears" website the presidential candidate was "never an ACORN community organizer; ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee; ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992."

But these blanket statements are false and misleading.

In 1992, Obama was director of Project Vote in Chicago, which helped register 150,000 voters on the city's South Side. Obama's successful work was credited in multiple media reports with helping to elect Democratic Senator Carol Moseley Braun.

Obama's campaign claims ACORN was "not part of" Project Vote, but the organization's incorporation papers, obtained by WND, show Project Vote is a trademark name whose parent company is registered at the same New Orleans address in which ACORN and multiple ACORN affiliates are housed.

Obama himself previously connected Project Vote to ACORN.

"I've been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drives in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work," Obama was quoted on his own campaign website as saying at an ACORN meeting, according to a post by official Obama website blogger Sam Graham-Felsen.

Clarifying the role of ACORN in Project Vote, Obama Spokesman Ben LaBolt told the New York Times this weekend Project Vote and ACORN were not as intertwined in 1992 as they are today, when a significant part of Project Vote’s revenues flow to ACORN and various of its affiliates as payment for services.

But LaBolt's statement, which admits Project Vote and ACORN was intertwined on some level while Obama was director directly contradicts the Obama campaign's "Fact Check" claim that ACORN was "not part" of Project Vote.

In a misleading statement, Obama's site claims "ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee," but it fails to mention Obama was an unpaid ACORN trainer, as WND first reported in August.

Lewis Goldberg, a spokesman for ACORN, confirmed Obama conducted two hour-long leadership training sessions for his organization in the late 1990s and said Obama was not paid for the work.

Obama has deep ties to ACORN, including with Ayers

Although Obama has been downplaying his relationship with ACORN, the presidential candidate has deep-seated ties to the radical group.

ACORN is very active in Obama's native Chicago, where in 1997, some 200 members attempted to storm a City Hall meeting, resulting in six members being arrested, including Madeleine Talbot, ACORN's Chicago director.

In the early 1990's Talbot invited Obama to help train ACORN activists.

Obama and other Chicago attorneys won a 1995 suit on behalf of ACORN, forcing the state of Illinois to implement the federal "motor-voter" bill.

While Obama served on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago nonprofit, it channeled millions of dollars to ACORN and affiliated groups.

Obama was a director of the Woods Fund board from 1999 to Dec. 11, 2002, according to the Fund's website. According to tax filings, Obama received compensation of $6,000 per year for his service in 1999 and 2000.

He served on the Fund alongside William C. Ayers, an unrepentant member of the Weathermen terrorist group which sought to overthrow of the U.S. government and took responsibility for bombing the U.S. Capitol in 1971.

Obama actively sought and received the endorsement by ACORN for his local campaigns.

In the Social Policy Journal, Toni Foulkes, a Chicago ACORN leader, documents what he terms Obama's "long service" with ACORN, which he said led many of the organization's members to help in voter campaigns for Obama's early Chicago campaigns.

Foulkes said Obama and ACORN were "old friends."

As a state senator, Obama touted many of ACORN's lines.

National Review Online writer Stanley Kurtz, who conducted a thorough review of ACORN, wrote, "Sure enough, a bit of digging into Obama's years in the Illinois State Senate indicates strong concern with Acorn's signature issues, as well as meetings with Acorn and the introduction by Obama of Acorn-friendly legislation on the living wage and banking practices."

ACORN endorsed Obama's presidential campaign, an endorsement touted on Obama's official website.

"What it came down to was that Senator Obama is the candidate who best understands and can affect change on the issues ACORN cares about like stopping foreclosures, enacting fair and comprehensive immigration reform, and building stronger and safer communities across America," said ACORN's Maude Hurd of the group's Obama endorsement.

Campaign pays ACORN affiliate

WND reported in August Obama's campaign paid more than $800,000 in services to Citizen Services Inc. (CSI), a nonprofit organization that is an offshoot of ACORN.

According to Federal Election Commission records reviewed by the Tribune-Review, the Obama campaign paid CSI $832,598.29, from Feb. 25 to May 17, including $564,342.21 for "stage, lighting and sound." The payments stood out since CSI does not offer services for stage, lighting or sound.

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Farrakhan suggested he would keep a low profile in the campaign, despite his enthusiasm for Obama.

The Obama campaign amended the FEC reports in August and September to claim the payments to CSI were for get-out-the-vote efforts.

McCain spokesman Davis charged the original FEC filing was an effort to "hide the fact" money was paid to ACORN, while FEC officials told the media amended filings are common in major campaigns, including fort large sums of money.

'ACORN may skew PA vote,' election integrity in doubt across country

Last Friday former state Supreme Court Justice Sandra Newman, a Republican, said at a news conference she has no confidence in the integrity of the electoral process in Pennsylvania as a result of what she termed the extensive voter registration effort by ACORN.

"[There is] potential of massive voter fraud. ...I am not confident we can get a fair election" on Nov. 4, said Newman, who retired from the court in 2006.

Gleason announced ACORN and other groups had submitted 252,595 voter registrations in Philadelphia, of which 57,435 were rejected, most of them submitted by ACORN. She said the registrations had faulty Social Security numbers, incorrect dates of birth, "clearly fraudulent" signatures, addresses that did not exist and duplicate registrations.

Other key areas in PA had similar problems, Newman said.

A CBS news investigation showed similar problems across the nation.

The news organization said it talked to nearly two dozen ACORN workers who all said they were pressured to increase their number of registration cards to the point of copying names out of phone books, signing up inmates, and registering the dead.

"Whether simple error or outright fraud, the charges surrounding ACORN are already raising doubts about the integrity of the upcoming election in key parts of the country," the CBS investigation concluded.

Group promoting Obama has history of major voter fraud

Last July, ACORN settled what was described by the Washington Secretary of State as the "largest case of voter fraud in the state's history." Government prosecutors had filed felony charges against seven ACORN workers, who ended up receiving jail time.

Senior Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Stephen Hobbs said in the case the workers had admitted filling out registration forms with names they found in phone books. The ACORN canvassers filled out the forms while sitting around a table at the downtown Seattle Public Library, Hobbs said.

ACORN was also investigated in 2006 for submitting false voter registrations in St. Louis. Nearly 1,500 fraudulent voter registrations were identified in the case, which was tied to at least one campaign, that of Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo. Four ACORN workers were indicted in the case.

Also in 2006, four part-time ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City, Mo., for voter-registration fraud after being caught, fired and turned in by ACORN.

In January 2005, two Colorado ACORN workers were sentenced to community service for submitting false voter registrations.

In Ohio in 2004, four ACORN employees were indicted by a federal grand jury for submitting false voter-registration forms.

ACORN has been accused in multiple other voter fraud cases in other states. Some investigations are still pending.

ACORN has been accused of financial improprieties.

The New York Times last month quoted ACORN officials admitting Dale Rathke, brother of ACORN founder Wade Rathke, embezzled nearly $1 million from ACORN and affiliated charitable organizations in 1999 and 2000. A small group of executives decided to keep the information from almost all of the group's board members and not to alert law enforcement, the Times reported.

ACORN is organized into more than 850 neighborhood chapters in over 100 cities across the United States, as well as in Argentina, Canada, Mexico and Peru. The organization was born out of the American civil rights movement of the 1960s.

ACORN strongly lobbies for gun control, leftist education policies, and the regulation of banks, targeting the lending practices of major financial institutions it sees as "predatory." It has a strong anti-capitalism agenda.

National Review Online writer Kurtz wrote the organization's primary goals are "municipal 'living wage' laws targeting 'big-box' stores like Wal-Mart, rolling back welfare reform, and regulating banks – efforts styled as combating 'predatory lending.'"

Sol Stern of the City Journal, who also wrote an extensive piece on ACORN, stated the group's "radical agenda" occasionally broke through to "undisguised authoritarian socialism."

He wrote ACORN works to drive big businesses out of cities and force companies that want to move to obtain "exit visas."

Intrusive, radical protest tactics

ACORN protests have turned violent, at times as soon as the rallies began. Some protests disrupted Federal Reserve hearings and busted into closed city council meetings.

Stern noted that in 2003 Baltimore ACORN underlings piled garbage in front of City Hall to protest lack of services in poor neighborhoods, wielded huge inflated rubber sharks to disrupt a bankers' dinner, and even staged a profanity-laced protest in front of the home of the city's mayor, Martin O'Malley.

"They unloaded a busload of people shouting pretty ugly things and scared the daylights out of my wife and kids," O'Malley told the Baltimore Sun. "I thought it was a pretty cruddy thing to do."

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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2008, 10:34:18 AM »
Obama website lies about ACORN ties
Campaign tries to distance senator from group convicted of voter fraud
Posted: October 12, 2008
By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama's campaign is misleading the public regarding the presidential candidate's ties to a radical leftist organization that has admitted to major financial improprieties and has been convicted in numerous, massive voter fraud scandals.

Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign Friday stepped up its efforts to draw attention to Obama's alleged relationship with ACORN, or the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, holding a conference call in which McCain spokesman Rick Davis accused Obama of making "very inconsistent remarks about what his relationship with this organization is."

In response to the increased focus on ACORN, the Obama campaign last week claimed on its "Fight the Smears" website the presidential candidate was "never an ACORN community organizer; ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee; ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992."

But these blanket statements are false and misleading.

In 1992, Obama was director of Project Vote in Chicago, which helped register 150,000 voters on the city's South Side. Obama's successful work was credited in multiple media reports with helping to elect Democratic Senator Carol Moseley Braun.

Obama's campaign claims ACORN was "not part of" Project Vote, but the organization's incorporation papers, obtained by WND, show Project Vote is a trademark name whose parent company is registered at the same New Orleans address in which ACORN and multiple ACORN affiliates are housed.

Obama himself previously connected Project Vote to ACORN.

"I've been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drives in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work," Obama was quoted on his own campaign website as saying at an ACORN meeting, according to a post by official Obama website blogger Sam Graham-Felsen.

Clarifying the role of ACORN in Project Vote, Obama Spokesman Ben LaBolt told the New York Times this weekend Project Vote and ACORN were not as intertwined in 1992 as they are today, when a significant part of Project Vote’s revenues flow to ACORN and various of its affiliates as payment for services.

But LaBolt's statement, which admits Project Vote and ACORN was intertwined on some level while Obama was director directly contradicts the Obama campaign's "Fact Check" claim that ACORN was "not part" of Project Vote.

In a misleading statement, Obama's site claims "ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee," but it fails to mention Obama was an unpaid ACORN trainer, as WND first reported in August.

Lewis Goldberg, a spokesman for ACORN, confirmed Obama conducted two hour-long leadership training sessions for his organization in the late 1990s and said Obama was not paid for the work.

Obama has deep ties to ACORN, including with Ayers

Although Obama has been downplaying his relationship with ACORN, the presidential candidate has deep-seated ties to the radical group.

ACORN is very active in Obama's native Chicago, where in 1997, some 200 members attempted to storm a City Hall meeting, resulting in six members being arrested, including Madeleine Talbot, ACORN's Chicago director.

In the early 1990's Talbot invited Obama to help train ACORN activists.

Obama and other Chicago attorneys won a 1995 suit on behalf of ACORN, forcing the state of Illinois to implement the federal "motor-voter" bill.

While Obama served on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago nonprofit, it channeled millions of dollars to ACORN and affiliated groups.

Obama was a director of the Woods Fund board from 1999 to Dec. 11, 2002, according to the Fund's website. According to tax filings, Obama received compensation of $6,000 per year for his service in 1999 and 2000.

He served on the Fund alongside William C. Ayers, an unrepentant member of the Weathermen terrorist group which sought to overthrow of the U.S. government and took responsibility for bombing the U.S. Capitol in 1971.

Obama actively sought and received the endorsement by ACORN for his local campaigns.

In the Social Policy Journal, Toni Foulkes, a Chicago ACORN leader, documents what he terms Obama's "long service" with ACORN, which he said led many of the organization's members to help in voter campaigns for Obama's early Chicago campaigns.

Foulkes said Obama and ACORN were "old friends."

As a state senator, Obama touted many of ACORN's lines.

National Review Online writer Stanley Kurtz, who conducted a thorough review of ACORN, wrote, "Sure enough, a bit of digging into Obama's years in the Illinois State Senate indicates strong concern with Acorn's signature issues, as well as meetings with Acorn and the introduction by Obama of Acorn-friendly legislation on the living wage and banking practices."

ACORN endorsed Obama's presidential campaign, an endorsement touted on Obama's official website.

"What it came down to was that Senator Obama is the candidate who best understands and can affect change on the issues ACORN cares about like stopping foreclosures, enacting fair and comprehensive immigration reform, and building stronger and safer communities across America," said ACORN's Maude Hurd of the group's Obama endorsement.

Campaign pays ACORN affiliate

WND reported in August Obama's campaign paid more than $800,000 in services to Citizen Services Inc. (CSI), a nonprofit organization that is an offshoot of ACORN.

According to Federal Election Commission records reviewed by the Tribune-Review, the Obama campaign paid CSI $832,598.29, from Feb. 25 to May 17, including $564,342.21 for "stage, lighting and sound." The payments stood out since CSI does not offer services for stage, lighting or sound.

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Farrakhan suggested he would keep a low profile in the campaign, despite his enthusiasm for Obama.

The Obama campaign amended the FEC reports in August and September to claim the payments to CSI were for get-out-the-vote efforts.

McCain spokesman Davis charged the original FEC filing was an effort to "hide the fact" money was paid to ACORN, while FEC officials told the media amended filings are common in major campaigns, including fort large sums of money.

'ACORN may skew PA vote,' election integrity in doubt across country

Last Friday former state Supreme Court Justice Sandra Newman, a Republican, said at a news conference she has no confidence in the integrity of the electoral process in Pennsylvania as a result of what she termed the extensive voter registration effort by ACORN.

"[There is] potential of massive voter fraud. ...I am not confident we can get a fair election" on Nov. 4, said Newman, who retired from the court in 2006.

Gleason announced ACORN and other groups had submitted 252,595 voter registrations in Philadelphia, of which 57,435 were rejected, most of them submitted by ACORN. She said the registrations had faulty Social Security numbers, incorrect dates of birth, "clearly fraudulent" signatures, addresses that did not exist and duplicate registrations.

Other key areas in PA had similar problems, Newman said.

A CBS news investigation showed similar problems across the nation.

The news organization said it talked to nearly two dozen ACORN workers who all said they were pressured to increase their number of registration cards to the point of copying names out of phone books, signing up inmates, and registering the dead.

"Whether simple error or outright fraud, the charges surrounding ACORN are already raising doubts about the integrity of the upcoming election in key parts of the country," the CBS investigation concluded.

Group promoting Obama has history of major voter fraud

Last July, ACORN settled what was described by the Washington Secretary of State as the "largest case of voter fraud in the state's history." Government prosecutors had filed felony charges against seven ACORN workers, who ended up receiving jail time.

Senior Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Stephen Hobbs said in the case the workers had admitted filling out registration forms with names they found in phone books. The ACORN canvassers filled out the forms while sitting around a table at the downtown Seattle Public Library, Hobbs said.

ACORN was also investigated in 2006 for submitting false voter registrations in St. Louis. Nearly 1,500 fraudulent voter registrations were identified in the case, which was tied to at least one campaign, that of Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo. Four ACORN workers were indicted in the case.

Also in 2006, four part-time ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City, Mo., for voter-registration fraud after being caught, fired and turned in by ACORN.

In January 2005, two Colorado ACORN workers were sentenced to community service for submitting false voter registrations.

In Ohio in 2004, four ACORN employees were indicted by a federal grand jury for submitting false voter-registration forms.

ACORN has been accused in multiple other voter fraud cases in other states. Some investigations are still pending.

ACORN has been accused of financial improprieties.

The New York Times last month quoted ACORN officials admitting Dale Rathke, brother of ACORN founder Wade Rathke, embezzled nearly $1 million from ACORN and affiliated charitable organizations in 1999 and 2000. A small group of executives decided to keep the information from almost all of the group's board members and not to alert law enforcement, the Times reported.

ACORN is organized into more than 850 neighborhood chapters in over 100 cities across the United States, as well as in Argentina, Canada, Mexico and Peru. The organization was born out of the American civil rights movement of the 1960s.

ACORN strongly lobbies for gun control, leftist education policies, and the regulation of banks, targeting the lending practices of major financial institutions it sees as "predatory." It has a strong anti-capitalism agenda.

National Review Online writer Kurtz wrote the organization's primary goals are "municipal 'living wage' laws targeting 'big-box' stores like Wal-Mart, rolling back welfare reform, and regulating banks – efforts styled as combating 'predatory lending.'"

Sol Stern of the City Journal, who also wrote an extensive piece on ACORN, stated the group's "radical agenda" occasionally broke through to "undisguised authoritarian socialism."

He wrote ACORN works to drive big businesses out of cities and force companies that want to move to obtain "exit visas."

Intrusive, radical protest tactics

ACORN protests have turned violent, at times as soon as the rallies began. Some protests disrupted Federal Reserve hearings and busted into closed city council meetings.

Stern noted that in 2003 Baltimore ACORN underlings piled garbage in front of City Hall to protest lack of services in poor neighborhoods, wielded huge inflated rubber sharks to disrupt a bankers' dinner, and even staged a profanity-laced protest in front of the home of the city's mayor, Martin O'Malley.

"They unloaded a busload of people shouting pretty ugly things and scared the daylights out of my wife and kids," O'Malley told the Baltimore Sun. "I thought it was a pretty cruddy thing to do."

This is who Obama used to work for as a lawyer.  This is the group he gave 800k to this year. 

The cultists ignore this fact and the other disgusting things about this sleeper cell candidate.  ACORN is committing mass vote fraud for Obama and there will be people going to jail over this.

In Indianopolis alone they have 105% of the voters registered to vote and over 50,000 registrations were immediately discounted as fraud by ACORN people.

 

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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2008, 10:59:56 AM »
They need to get rid of ACORN and Obama, scamming  cheating bastards that's the only way he will win.
People say there going to vote for Obama but how many will when it comes down to it??
There's been some talk about that, but you can bet 99% of blacks will vote for him because he's considered black and most of them could care less about the issues, and it's funny that most of them never voted on any other race untill this one. Why because a black is running for office.
Just wait and see what happens if he's elected, they'll be dancing in the streets.
They were all for H.Clinton in the begaining, why did they switch over Hmm.

Not being a racist it's just facts and the way it is...................... ........................ ........................ ..

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Re: Acorns are dropping like crazy
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2008, 06:36:18 AM »
I find so funny that Obama supporters keep saying he is going to bring change to the white house.
He is as dirty and crooked as anyone in the white house (if not more so).


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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2008, 06:41:17 AM »
Meanwhile.... Obama's lead over McSame continues to grow bigger.

Instead of whining over and over about Obama - which if you can't get over it, it is going to be a lonnnnggg 8 years for you - why not whine about how the GOP couldn't field a decent candidate to beat the lying cheating half breed "muslin" that is currently making plans for a change of address to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2008, 06:52:31 AM »
I find so funny that Obama supporters keep saying he is going to bring change to the white house.
He is as dirty and crooked as anyone in the white house (if not more so).


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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2008, 07:51:02 AM »
Meanwhile.... Obama's lead over McSame continues to grow bigger.

Instead of whining over and over about Obama - which if you can't get over it, it is going to be a lonnnnggg 8 years for you - why not whine about how the GOP couldn't field a decent candidate to beat the lying cheating half breed "muslin" that is currently making plans for a change of address to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

I wanted Romney myself.

I am voting for McCain simply because ZERO is unthinkable on every level. 


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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2008, 07:55:13 AM »
Neuro, that is absolutely not the same relationship.  McCain spoke about immigration and ACORN was on the list of co-sponcers.  Not in the same league.  Poor comparison.

ACORN is very corrupt and needs dispanding...or at least no further tax dollars to support them.  Is there a petition to stop giving tax dollars to ACORN somewhere?

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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2008, 07:55:58 AM »
Yes, McCain is not the best person.  Romney would have been much better oposition to Obama IMO.

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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2008, 08:01:09 AM »
McCain had my vote until he put that idiot Palin on the ticket.

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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2008, 08:10:17 AM »
Yes, McCain is not the best person.  Romney would have been much better oposition to Obama IMO.

I have to say, I truly like Palin, she is a fighter and has guts.

McCain has truly dropped the ball not attacking on Rev. Wright, Ayeres, Rezko, Odinga - all making Obama not someone who happens to know these people, but someone who agrees with them and in fact seeks these radicals out himself.

McCain seems like he has Stokholm Syndrome and refuses to attack this clown where he is most vulnerable.

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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2008, 08:17:06 AM »
I wasn't a McCain fan at all until after the Saddleback Forum.  I was starting to tune in to him more, and after he selected Palin I was thrilled.  Just what is needed.

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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2008, 08:46:22 AM »
I wasn't a McCain fan at all until after the Saddleback Forum.  I was starting to tune in to him more, and after he selected Palin I was thrilled.  Just what is needed.

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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2008, 10:29:04 AM »
hahahahahahahahah

ACORN to McCain: Have You Lost That Loving Feeling?
October 13, 2008

Senator Allied with ACORN as Recently as 2006, Now Turns Cold Shoulder

October 13, 2008, Miami, FL - U.S. Senator John McCain's recent attacks on the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) are puzzling given his historic support for the organization and its efforts on behalf of immigrant Americans. As recently as February 20, 2006, Senator McCain was the keynote speaker at an ACORN-sponsored Immigration Rally in Miami, Florida at Miami Dade College – Wolfson Campus.

The rally, co-sponsored by ACORN in partnership with the New American Opportunity campaign (NAOC), Catholic League Services – Archdiocese of Miami, Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, Florida Immigrant Coalition, Miami Dade College, People for the American Way/Mi Familia/Vota en Accion, the Service Employees International Union, and UNITE/HERE, was intended to call attention to the need for comprehensive immigration reform.

Senator McCain spoke at the rally attended by hundreds of ACORN members, most of whom were dressed in the red shirts typical of its members. Senator McCain's speech focused on the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act, a bipartisan, comprehensive reform bill, which McCain sponsored with Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA).

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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2008, 10:35:40 AM »
Comparing McCain's relationship to Obama's with Acorn is laughable.

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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2008, 12:15:56 PM »
This whole ACORN meme is nothing but a right wing talking point that ha N. TEETH. WHATSOEVER.

ACORN the organization has never been convicted of anything. A handful of individual employees have and this is almost always as a result of ACORN officials notifying the proper authorities.

There have been several cases of fraudulent voter registrations being turned in but that is because BY LAW, ACORN MUST TURN IN ALL VOTER REGISTRATIONS.  So if you flill out a regisstration with them on the street, and you claim to be  Bill Gates and they know that you aren't Billl Gates, they still have to turn it in. They always flag these false registrations but .

There is no scandal here because these false registrations can't be used to vote. If someone trhidyrtd to vote more than once, that does not mean they can vote more than once.


There is neither smoke nor fire here.

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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2008, 12:18:26 PM »
This whole ACORN meme is nothing but a right wing talking point that ha N. TEETH. WHATSOEVER.

ACORN the organization has never been convicted of anything. A handful of individual employees have and this is almost always as a result of ACORN officials notifying the proper authorities.

There have been several cases of fraudulent voter registrations being turned in but that is because BY LAW, ACORN MUST TURN IN ALL VOTER REGISTRATIONS.  So if you flill out a regisstration with them on the street, and you claim to be  Bill Gates and they know that you aren't Billl Gates, they still have to turn it in. They always flag these false registrations but .

There is no scandal here because these false registrations can't be used to vote. If someone trhidyrtd to vote more than once, that does not mean they can vote more than once.


There is neither smoke nor fire here.




Another cultist of the lord messiah chipes in.  Only a liberal could justify registering people 73 times to vote in exchange for cash and cigs.  ACORN should be disbanded immediately for fraud. 

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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2008, 12:48:59 PM »


Another cultist of the lord messiah chipes in.  Only a liberal could justify registering people 73 times to vote in exchange for cash and cigs.  ACORN should be disbanded immediately for fraud. 

This case is atypical and actually shows just how effective ACORN's checks worked. In this case (which if you were honest, you'd admit was an anomaly), the man provided the same information on each registration and they were flagged.

The man in question claims that over an 18-month period he gathered $10-$15 in cash and anywhere from 10 to 20 cigarettes.  He never made claimed that he was coerced into voting for Obama.





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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2008, 01:29:51 PM »
Liberals can justify anything its really sad.

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Re: Acorns are dropping like crazy
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2008, 01:55:52 PM »
If ACORN employees are out of line (and its widespread in this election) then the parent company is responsible!  Thats great that some are being turned in...what about the rest?
Its an ultra liberal organization that cannot separate its duties from a political agenda, period.

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Re: Acorns are dropping like crazy
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2008, 02:04:32 PM »
If ACORN employees are out of line (and its widespread in this election) then the parent company is responsible!  Thats great that some are being turned in...what about the rest?
Its an ultra liberal organization that cannot separate its duties from a political agenda, period.

The problem is no more widespread in this election than it has been in previous elections. The right has been overexaggerating the problem for at least the last three election cycles. There are always reports of hundreds of thousands of fraudulent registrations and it always boils down to a few hundred registrations that were flagged by ACORN officials themselves. As I said earlier, even when ACORN workers are aware of  a registration being false, they are legally obligated to turn it in. 


A parent company's responsibility  is to deal with problem workers and by most reasonable accounts acorn has done that. All of the legal action brought against acorn employees was initiated by notification from acorn and they have been cooperative in the handful of cases that were brought forward.



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Re: Acorns are dropping like crazy
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2008, 02:35:12 PM »


Who want to place a bet, I'm saying that in a few months when they finish checking recent Acorn shit they will look at the times that Hussein worked and was an active part in registering voters...and guess what we'll find...even worse...I bet that we will find it started when he came into Acorn, its fits his nature....do everything and fuck anyone just to get ahead.

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Re: Acorns are dropping like crazy
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2008, 02:38:16 PM »

Who want to place a bet, I'm saying that in a few months when they finish checking recent Acorn shit they will look at the times that Hussein worked and was an active part in registering voters...and guess what we'll find...even worse...I bet that we will find it started when he came into Acorn, its fits his nature....do everything and fuck anyone just to get ahead.

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i thought sadam was dead..

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Re: Acorns are dropping like crazy
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2008, 02:42:34 PM »
i thought sadam was dead..


His long lost cousin Obama Hussein Barrack is still with us though.

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Re: Acorns are dropping like crazy
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2008, 02:45:02 PM »
His long lost cousin Obama Hussein Barrack is still with us though.
Foreal. i thought his roots were white and kenyan. You have any proof of his kinship with Saddam.