Acorns are dropping like crazy

[IFBBwannaB]

Foreal. i thought his roots were white and kenyan. You have any proof of his kinship with Saddam.

You should copyright such great jokes 

[Al Doggity]

You should copyright such great jokes 

You should write a book detailing your conspiracy theories.

[Option D]

You should copyright such great jokes 

I'm simply asking you to reveal any sources that support your above statement about obama..

[IFBBwannaB]

You should write a book detailing your conspiracy theories.

It wasn't my conspiracy theory, I only used the man's name...its someone on your camp that want to understand it like that....for some reason everyone on camp change can't stand to hear his middle name.....great confidence in your presidential candidate ... you even deny his name...

[Al Doggity]

It wasn't my conspiracy theory, I only used the man's name...its someone on your camp that want to understand it like that....for some reason everyone on camp change can't stand to hear his middle name.....great confidence in your presidential candidate ... you even deny his name...

I wasn't referring to your use of his middle name. I was referring to so many of your other posts...your bet about him being behind the allegations of voter fraud just being the most recent.

The reason that your theory makes no sense is that the allegations are essentially nothing more than Republican talking points. Multiple voter registrations don't equal multiple votes.  The people vilifying ACORN right now are  pretty much all republicans. They know damned well that there is no widespread voter fraud linked to ACORN. As a matter of fact, it's pretty common knowledge that during the last election, even after ACORN flagged false registrations, districts run by republicans processed many of them simply to create a media maelstrom when they were flagged later.

[George Whorewell]

The Bush administration is framing Obama by producing fake evidence he has ties to Acorn. When will you people wake up?

[IFBBwannaB]

I wasn't referring to your use of his middle name. I was referring to so many of your other posts...your bet about him being behind the allegations of voter fraud just being the most recent.

The reason that your theory makes no sense is that the allegations are essentially nothing more than Republican talking points. Multiple voter registrations don't equal multiple votes.  The people vilifying ACORN right now are  pretty much all republicans. They know damned well that there is no widespread voter fraud linked to ACORN. As a matter of fact, it's pretty common knowledge that during the last election, even after ACORN flagged false registrations, districts run by republicans processed many of them simply to create a media maelstrom when they were flagged later.

Well I actually saw some of the people that came to testify its far from being some Republican allegation.

[shootfighter1]

To deny that ACORN employees are committing voter registration fraud is purely partisan blindness at this point.  I agree that the false registrations may not turn into actual votes...but its still a problem.

The issue is that a dishonest, partisan (or at least poorly organized) organization like ACORN should not be receiving any federal, state or local tax contributions.

ACORN must stop paying their employees by # of registrants signed.  They also must screen their employees better and instruct them on following rules.  Wonder if they have a drug free workplace with pre-employment drug screens and random pools.  That often helps weed out some of the wacko employees.

[IFBBwannaB]

To deny that ACORN employees are committing voter registration fraud is purely partisan blindness at this point.  I agree that the false registrations may not turn into actual votes...but its still a problem.

The issue is that a dishonest, partisan (or at least poorly organized) organization like ACORN should not be receiving any federal, state or local tax contributions.

ACORN must stop paying their employees by # of registrants signed.  They also must screen their employees better and instruct them on following rules.  Wonder if they have a drug free workplace with pre-employment drug screens and random pools.  That often helps weed out some of the wacko employees.

Vote registration fraud is the first part, the second is to find the states or even specific voting spots that are weak spots and send there people to fake votes.

[nycbull]

Stern noted that in 2003 Baltimore ACORN underlings piled garbage in front of City Hall to protest lack of services in poor neighborhoods, wielded huge inflated rubber sharks to disrupt a bankers' dinner, and even staged a profanity-laced protest in front of the home of the city's mayor, Martin O'Malley.


big fucking deal!!!!, that is what protest looks like, that is as American as apple pie...We used to have protests like that every week in NYC, now because of facist republican mayor there are no protest in NYC.  

How mushed brain can Republicans be getting.  What a bunch of pussies.  They are mad because the protests are interrupting their shopping ...poor babies.

[Soul Crusher]

Stern noted that in 2003 Baltimore ACORN underlings piled garbage in front of City Hall to protest lack of services in poor neighborhoods, wielded huge inflated rubber sharks to disrupt a bankers' dinner, and even staged a profanity-laced protest in front of the home of the city's mayor, Martin O'Malley.


big fucking deal!!!!, that is what protest looks like, that is as American as apple pie...We used to have protests like that every week in NYC, now because of facist republican mayor there are no protest in NYC.  

How mushed brain can Republicans be getting.  What a bunch of pussies.  They are mad because the protests are interrupting their shopping ...poor babies.

Bloomberg is a lifelong DemocRAT who turned GOP just to run for mayor.

ACORN is fraudulent organization and deserves to be disbanded and defunded immediately.

They are creating chaos in the election system and know that the poll workers simply cannot process all these registrations in time for the election and hope that many of these fraudulent apps fall through the cracks.

[Decker]

Bloomberg is a lifelong DemocRAT who turned GOP just to run for mayor.

ACORN is fraudulent organization and deserves to be disbanded and defunded immediately.

They are creating chaos in the election system and know that the poll workers simply cannot process all these registrations in time for the election and hope that many of these fraudulent apps fall through the cracks.

You're being played for a fool by the Rovian machine.

ACORN has been around for about 40 years endeavoring to help make public schools better, ensure a livable wage for the working poor and the like and they do this by getting people out to vote for like-minded candidates.

(Sidenote:  you just can't keep these vile poor people down....first they cause the subprime mortgage meltdown and now this)

First of all it's not their fault that Republicans of the last 30 years serve ONLY elite interests.

Second, this whole 'scandal' is bullshit b/c the right wingers are screaming VOTER FRAUD b/c some voter registrations have turned up with Tony Romo or Mickey Mouse on the form.

So what do these rightwingers propose?  Wholesale scrubbing of voter registration ala 2000 Florida.

Does everyone see that?  That's how Bush stole Florida.  STatewide scrubbing of newly registered voters.

Why is that bullshit?

B/c is Mickey Mouse or Tony Romo going to show up with identification to vote under the false voter registration?  No.  That's foolish.

Remember when the Bush administration fired the Attorney Generals who would not pursue vote fraud allegations against Democrats?  Remember that scandal?  Do you see now how this stuff is starting to come together as a conspiratorial strategy for election fraud?

This, my friends, is how the Modern Day Righth Wing faction of the Republican party executes ELECTION FRAUD.

[Dos Equis]

FBI probes ACORN over voter registrations
Federal authorities are trying to determine whether ACORN encouraged fake voter registrations in several states.
BY GREG GORDON
ggordon@mcclatchydc.com
WASHINGTON -- A day after John McCain charged that the liberal-leaning voter registration group ACORN ''may be perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history,'' it was disclosed Thursday that the FBI is investigating whether the group coordinated the filing of phony applications.

Details of the inquiry weren't readily available. McClatchy confirmed an Associated Press report disclosing the investigation and learned that the FBI was attempting to determine if ACORN systematically encouraged the creation of fake voter registrations in several states.

Executive Director Michael Slater of Project Vote, which funds ACORN and represents it in legal matters, said the group has yet to be informed of any national investigation but would cooperate. Slater said that any suggestion that ACORN was orchestrating voter fraud was ``absolutely false.''

For years, ACORN has been a force in registering mostly younger, lower-income minorities to vote. So far this year, the group has registered 1.3 million new voters.

`HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS'

Because those new voters often support Democrats, Republicans have targeted ACORN and accused organizers of trying to undermine elections. Under former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, U.S. attorneys were encouraged to bring voter-fraud cases, mostly against Democrats, and some prosecutors who balked were fired.

Project Vote's Slater said the timing of the investigation was ''highly suspicious'' because it was so close to the election.

''We knew this was coming,'' Slater told McClatchy. ``We saw in 2004 that we were attacked by Republican interests, and law enforcement was politicized to go after us. We saw civil suits and organizations created whose specific purpose was to demonize ACORN.''

'BOGUS' FORMS

According to Slater, ACORN has alerted authorities on a daily basis since late last year whenever internal reviews found that canvassers had submitted suspicious application forms.

Slater said that 1,187 packages, each containing a registration worker's daily collection of as many as 18 forms, have been flagged by county election officials as ``potentially bogus.''

He also estimated that about 1 percent of ACORN's nationwide registration applications -- some 13,000 forms -- could contain fictitious names or addresses. In addition, as many as 25 percent may be duplicates.

County officials review each registration application and reject all duplicates.

To affect an election tally, someone would have to vote in the name of the fictitious registrant, which is a felony.

ACORN officials said that most phony submissions came from canvassers who were trying to get paid without actually finding citizens who wanted to register to vote.

They simply filled out the forms using names from the phone book, fictitious names or, in one case, ``Mickey Mouse.''

ACORN is bound by laws in most of the 21 states where it's been active to turn in all new registration applications, even suspicious ones, and the group follows that policy everywhere, spokesman Scott Levenson said.

Law-enforcement agencies in 11 states have been investigating former ACORN canvassers -- investigations that have involved the FBI in Nevada and New Mexico.

During Wednesday night's final presidential campaign debate, McCain pressed Democratic rival Barack Obama to explain his ties to ACORN, which he said ``may be destroying the fabric of democracy.''

Earlier, Republican Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio sent a letter asking Attorney General Michael Mukasey to order an investigation of whether ACORN was committing voter registration fraud in an organized way.

BATTLEGROUND BATTLE

The Ohio Republican Party is in a court battle with Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner over potential election fraud. The Republicans won a federal appeals court order demanding that Brunner turn over to county election officials by Friday the names of about 200,000 new registrants whose personal information did not exactly match state drivers' license or Social Security data.

Any discrepancies, no matter how small, could be used to challenge the eligibility of those Ohioans to vote. Brunner filed an emergency appeal to the Supreme Court.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/campaign-2008/story/729628.html

[Decker]

FBI probes ACORN over voter registrations
Federal authorities are trying to determine whether ACORN encouraged fake voter registrations in several states.
BY GREG GORDON
ggordon@mcclatchydc.com
WASHINGTON -- A day after John McCain charged that the liberal-leaning voter registration group ACORN ''may be perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history,'' it was disclosed Thursday that the FBI is investigating whether the group coordinated the filing of phony applications.

Details of the inquiry weren't readily available. McClatchy confirmed an Associated Press report disclosing the investigation and learned that the FBI was attempting to determine if ACORN systematically encouraged the creation of fake voter registrations in several states.

Executive Director Michael Slater of Project Vote, which funds ACORN and represents it in legal matters, said the group has yet to be informed of any national investigation but would cooperate. Slater said that any suggestion that ACORN was orchestrating voter fraud was ``absolutely false.''

For years, ACORN has been a force in registering mostly younger, lower-income minorities to vote. So far this year, the group has registered 1.3 million new voters.

`HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS'

Because those new voters often support Democrats, Republicans have targeted ACORN and accused organizers of trying to undermine elections. Under former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, U.S. attorneys were encouraged to bring voter-fraud cases, mostly against Democrats, and some prosecutors who balked were fired.

Project Vote's Slater said the timing of the investigation was ''highly suspicious'' because it was so close to the election.

''We knew this was coming,'' Slater told McClatchy. ``We saw in 2004 that we were attacked by Republican interests, and law enforcement was politicized to go after us. We saw civil suits and organizations created whose specific purpose was to demonize ACORN.''

'BOGUS' FORMS

According to Slater, ACORN has alerted authorities on a daily basis since late last year whenever internal reviews found that canvassers had submitted suspicious application forms.

Slater said that 1,187 packages, each containing a registration worker's daily collection of as many as 18 forms, have been flagged by county election officials as ``potentially bogus.''

He also estimated that about 1 percent of ACORN's nationwide registration applications -- some 13,000 forms -- could contain fictitious names or addresses. In addition, as many as 25 percent may be duplicates.

County officials review each registration application and reject all duplicates.

To affect an election tally, someone would have to vote in the name of the fictitious registrant, which is a felony.

ACORN officials said that most phony submissions came from canvassers who were trying to get paid without actually finding citizens who wanted to register to vote.

They simply filled out the forms using names from the phone book, fictitious names or, in one case, ``Mickey Mouse.''

ACORN is bound by laws in most of the 21 states where it's been active to turn in all new registration applications, even suspicious ones, and the group follows that policy everywhere, spokesman Scott Levenson said.

Law-enforcement agencies in 11 states have been investigating former ACORN canvassers -- investigations that have involved the FBI in Nevada and New Mexico.

During Wednesday night's final presidential campaign debate, McCain pressed Democratic rival Barack Obama to explain his ties to ACORN, which he said ``may be destroying the fabric of democracy.''

Earlier, Republican Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio sent a letter asking Attorney General Michael Mukasey to order an investigation of whether ACORN was committing voter registration fraud in an organized way.

BATTLEGROUND BATTLE

The Ohio Republican Party is in a court battle with Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner over potential election fraud. The Republicans won a federal appeals court order demanding that Brunner turn over to county election officials by Friday the names of about 200,000 new registrants whose personal information did not exactly match state drivers' license or Social Security data.

Any discrepancies, no matter how small, could be used to challenge the eligibility of those Ohioans to vote. Brunner filed an emergency appeal to the Supreme Court.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/campaign-2008/story/729628.html

What a waste of police resources.

Why doesn't the FBI just arrest Mickey Mouse when he shows up to vote in multiple districts under the false voter registration?

[Dos Equis]

That's sort of like arresting the drug user instead of the dealer. 

[Decker]

That's sort of like arresting the drug user instead of the dealer. 

How so?

Anybody can forge false voter registration.  In fact, if ACORN's mission is to increase voter turnout at the polls to get laws passed that benefit the poor, what does it gain by turning in false voter registration forms?  Where's the logic Beach Bum?  What does ACORN stand to gain through these alleged actions?

[Fury]

You're being played for a fool by the Rovian machine.

ACORN has been around for about 40 years endeavoring to help make public schools better, ensure a livable wage for the working poor and the like and they do this by getting people out to vote for like-minded candidates.

(Sidenote:  you just can't keep these vile poor people down....first they cause the subprime mortgage meltdown and now this)

First of all it's not their fault that Republicans of the last 30 years serve ONLY elite interests.

Second, this whole 'scandal' is bullshit b/c the right wingers are screaming VOTER FRAUD b/c some voter registrations have turned up with Tony Romo or Mickey Mouse on the form.

So what do these rightwingers propose?  Wholesale scrubbing of voter registration ala 2000 Florida.

Does everyone see that?  That's how Bush stole Florida.  STatewide scrubbing of newly registered voters.

Why is that bullshit?

B/c is Mickey Mouse or Tony Romo going to show up with identification to vote under the false voter registration?  No.  That's foolish.

Remember when the Bush administration fired the Attorney Generals who would not pursue vote fraud allegations against Democrats?  Remember that scandal?  Do you see now how this stuff is starting to come together as a conspiratorial strategy for election fraud?

This, my friends, is how the Modern Day Righth Wing faction of the Republican party executes ELECTION FRAUD.

Are you seriously justifying this bullshit? Man, you are a hypocrite. You would be slobbering all over Bush's nuts if it turned out the Repubs were doing this. Get off your democratic high horse, it's sad.

[Decker]

Are you seriously justifying this bullshit? Man, you are a hypocrite. You would be slobbering all over Bush's nuts if it turned out the Repubs were doing this. Get off your democratic high horse, it's sad.

Do you have some preoccupation with male genitalia?

It's your business...but I have to point out that every time I read one of your posts, your phrasing involves balls, cocks, cum, and/or anal gratification.

But back to you Eldon, can you answer the question, What does ACORN stand to gain from its alleged voter fraud?

[Dos Equis]

How so?

Anybody can forge false voter registration.  In fact, if ACORN's mission is to increase voter turnout at the polls to get laws passed that benefit the poor, what does it gain by turning in false voter registration forms?  Where's the logic Beach Bum?  What does ACORN stand to gain through these alleged actions?

ACORN is enabling people to commit voter fraud.  They're actually soliciting people to commit fraud.  Without a group like ACORN you'd have fewer fraudulent voters.  ACORN is the dealer and the voters are the users.   

ACORN isn't trying to increase voter registration.  They're mission is to get voters who will support their candidate.   

[Fury]

Do you have some preoccupation with male genitalia?

It's your business...but I have to point out that every time I read one of your posts, your phrasing involves balls, cocks, cum, and/or anal gratification.

But back to you Eldon, can you answer the question, What does ACORN stand to gain from its alleged voter fraud?

Well, coupled with the fact that their pushing Obama on everyone, registering not just one or two, but dozens upon dozens of suspicious voters, they stand to gain a lot. Too bad you're too blinded by your Democratic bullshit and hypocrisy to even look at it objectively. You're as big of a hypocrite as ol' Bushy boy.

[Decker]

ACORN is enabling people to commit voter fraud.  They're actually soliciting people to commit fraud.  Without a group like ACORN you'd have fewer fraudulent voters.  ACORN is the dealer and the voters are the users.   

ACORN isn't trying to increase voter registration.  They're mission is to get voters who will support their candidate.   

How though?

If voters have to bring proof of ID, and they do, how does a false enrollment form do anything to affect the actual people voting?

Is Mickey Mouse going to show up and vote?

So ACORN is directing it's hireling to engage in active fraud?  I don't think so.  Do you know who these hirelings are?  Many are work release prisoners--incarcerated felons earning pennies on the hour to enroll new voters. 

How does any of that jibe with the Republican 'solution' of wholesale scrubbing of the voter rolls? 

What if you showed up to vote and found your name scrubbed from the roll b/c some republican erased the registration of a whole block of voters b/c several of the registration forms had the Rolling Stones named on them?  Sorry BEach Bum, no voting for you this year.

[Decker]

Well, coupled with the fact that their pushing Obama on everyone, registering not just one or two, but dozens upon dozens of suspicious voters, they stand to gain a lot. Too bad you're too blinded by your Democratic bullshit and hypocrisy to even look at it objectively. You're as big of a hypocrite as ol' Bushy boy.

Voter registration is not voting.  Do you grasp that?

Wholesale Republican scrubbing of voter rolls hurts real voter turnout?  Do you grasp that?

Whomever is submitting Mickey Mouse as a registered voter is doing nothing to affect voter turnout.  Do you understand?

Wholesale republican scrubbing of the voter rolls really does lower voter turnout.  Do you see that?

[Dos Equis]

How though?

If voters have to bring proof of ID, and they do, how does a false enrollment form do anything to affect the actual people voting?

Is Mickey Mouse going to show up and vote?

So ACORN is directing it's hireling to engage in active fraud?  I don't think so.  Do you know who these hirelings are?  Many are work release prisoners--incarcerated felons earning pennies on the hour to enroll new voters. 

How does any of that jibe with the Republican 'solution' of wholesale scrubbing of the voter rolls? 

What if you showed up to vote and found your name scrubbed from the roll b/c some republican erased the registration of a whole block of voters b/c several of the registration forms had the Rolling Stones named on them?  Sorry BEach Bum, no voting for you this year.

So what you're telling me is ACORN's voter registration fraud serves no purpose?  Why do you think they're doing it? 

Why is the FBI investigating them? 

[Fury]

So what you're telling me is ACORN's voter registration fraud serves no purpose?  Why do you think they're doing it? 

Why is the FBI investigating them? 

Hahaha.

[Colossus_500]

So what you're telling me is ACORN's voter registration fraud serves no purpose?  Why do you think they're doing it? 

Why is the FBI investigating them? 

In 12 of the 21 swing states no less!