For the experts...Sevastase, QuakerOats, GH15...Natural or not??????

[DK II]

When are you coming to Aus?

No plans yet.

I want to move to Japan in the near future, and from there i want to take a holiday in OZ, so probably somewhen in the next 2 years.

[webcake]

No plans yet.

I want to move to Japan in the near future, and from there i want to take a holiday in OZ, so probably somewhen in the next 2 years.

Sounds good. I'm sure you will enjoy yourself when you eventually visit here...

[Cromespyder]

I'm not a beast, and i never claimed to be one. I'm in shape, and getting better. I'm natural (and i mean natural) so i will never be a beast.

And yes, i have been to the US.

where have you been in the US? im from massachusetts.

btw, has there been much press coverage in germany of the mysterious kidnapper/conman clark rockefeller who was found to be from bavaria?

[DK II]

where have you been in the US? im from massachusetts.

btw, has there been much press coverage in germany of the mysterious kidnapper/conman clark rockefeller who was found to be from bavaria?

Never heard of him.

I have been to Florida twice, and i have some people i know in San Diego, so i hope i can go there some time as well. Probably would like to make a 4 day stop over in NY.

[Cleanest Natural]

Donkey I asked nice, for real, Show me what a true natty should look like. YOU have all the answers. POST UR PIC'S CHAMP!

Don't bother Adrian .. this dude has been ripping on people for ages but never mustered the courage to man up and post a pic .

Here's me, completely clean 182 lbs, 5'11" @ 8 % bodyfat

[io856]

Thats a good look sev 

[Cleanest Natural]

LOL! GOOD ONE BRO!  I STILL WOULDNT TRADE MY PHYSIQUE {GYNO AND ALL!}  FOR YOURS Sevastase!

You shouldn't ! I wouldn't!

You look awesome Adrian. I've told you before ...that's why I don't understand why the need for this whole natural charade.

I think you look excellent.

[DK II]

Don't bother Adrian .. this dude has been ripping on people for ages but never mustered the courage to man up and post a pic .

Here's me, completely clean 182 lbs, 5'11" @ 8 % bodyfat

Splendid!!

[Cleanest Natural]

Once you'll have a steady job, a family to feed and a shitload of responsabilities, you'll probably be more self-conscious somehow. In the meantime, enjoy being 20, man.

bullshit ....it's all A big excuse not to man up and post a fucking pic .

I posted on this site my pics, videos , my cock, my id card, etc etc ...there's no fucking boomerang because people can find stuff on tennis about me, bodybuilding ..etc.

BIG excuses for lack of balls to post a pic cause you afraid and SELF CONSCIOUS.

You afraid cause after all this humongous shittalk you have NOTHING to back it up.

FUCK! Even Squad posted pictures as fat as he is and accepts the way he looks and makes fun of his physique which is all good.

But cocky bitches such as donkey, etc...will never muster the balls to man up.

"I'm a translator and a public figure and what if my grandkids do a search on the net ?? bwahahahahahahahahaa

your fucking grandkids will never know that you posted as a douchebag named donkey on getbig  

[Cleanest Natural]

Splendid!!

you are trying too hard.

you ran outta owning tactics and are employing this one now?hahahahahahaha

what a loser.

go to da gym school teacher ...

[DK II]

you are trying too hard.

you ran outta owning tactics and are employing this one now?hahahahahahaha

what a loser.

go to da gym school teacher ...

No, i mean it. No hate, sev.

It's useless. Once you realize that, your life will be better, too.

[Cleanest Natural]

No, i mean it. No hate, sev.

It's useless. Once you realize that, your life will be better, too.

[RZA]

bullshit ....it's all A big excuse not to man up and post a fucking pic .

I posted on this site my pics, videos , my cock, my id card, etc etc ...there's no fucking boomerang because people can find stuff on tennis about me, bodybuilding ..etc.

BIG excuses for lack of balls to post a pic cause you afraid and SELF CONSCIOUS.

You afraid cause after all this humongous shittalk you have NOTHING to back it up.

FUCK! Even Squad posted pictures as fat as he is and accepts the way he looks and makes fun of his physique which is all good.

But cocky bitches such as donkey, etc...will never muster the balls to man up.

"I'm a translator and a public figure and what if my grandkids do a search on the net ?? bwahahahahahahahahaa

your fucking grandkids will never know that you posted as a douchebag named donkey on getbig  

Not everyone has the need to seek for constant attention like you, Sev. That might seem crazy to you but that's the way it is. Did you hear me brag about anything yet? Nope. The fact that you're an attention whore doesn't mean other people have to be. Your neurosis is, well, entirely yours. You might want to push it and ask everyone to participate in that mess but unfortunately, apart from a few impressionable kids, no one cares about your shit.

[DK II]

No really. How about telling us how you reached that 8% clean and so on,,,,

[RZA]

He's one of those guys who get on the sauce then stops and claims he's "clean". Pretty much like saying "I only get a cycle of ass fucking every four months but in between I'm straight".

[DK II]

He's one of those guys who get on the sauce then stops and claims he's "clean". Pretty much like saying "I only get a cycle of ass fucking every four months but in between I'm straight".

At least he doesn't scream that he's natural.

But, besides post-whoring he contributes nothing, no training tips from the great sevastase nor nutrition infos, despite the FACT that he's a successful PT in Romania.

I have never seen a WO schedule from him and only one diet plan, which was really bad. All fruit juice and salad, no protein at all.

[Cleanest Natural]

No really. How about telling us how you reached that 8% clean and so on,,,,

I dieted cycling my carbs, 2 hours of cardio daily, light weights and moderate volume, I couldn't go bellow what you see there in bodyfat without fat burners as the dieting was aking it'stoll on me ...

with aas and fatburners etc it's a whole diff ballgame

[Cleanest Natural]

At least he doesn't scream that he's natural.

But, besides post-whoring he contributes nothing, no training tips from the great sevastase nor nutrition infos, despite the FACT that he's a successful PT in Romania.

I have never seen a WO schedule from him and only one diet plan, which was really bad. All fruit juice and salad, no protein at all.

wanna get tips from me ?

ask then moron...

I contributed plenty ...I have talked a lot about bulking, dieting, workout shedule etc ....

Again you turn out to be aliar who distorts the truth

But no surprize there 

[RZA]

I dieted cycling my carbs, 2 hours of cardio daily, light weights and moderate volume, I couldn't go bellow what you see there in bodyfat without fat burners as the dieting was aking it'stoll on me ...

with aas and fatburners etc it's a whole diff ballgame

2 hours of cardio is a lot specially if there no carbs (or small amount) in your system. That screams "catabolic" for most people. Well, I guess that moderate volume and light weights preserved a bit o glycogen there. I agree though that getting under 7-8% is almost impossible without burners. At least, for the vast majority.

[Cleanest Natural]

Not everyone has the need to seek for constant attention like you, Sev. That might seem crazy to you but that's the way it is. Did you hear me brag about anything yet? Nope. The fact that you're an attention whore doesn't mean other people have to be. Your neurosis is, well, entirely yours. You might want to push it and ask everyone to participate in that mess but unfortunately, apart from a few impressionable kids, no one cares about your shit.

Translation ...

" I would post a pic but everyone will realize I'm just a shittalking twink w/ nothing to brag about .... "

Don't sweatit ... we stilllove you rza ...at last you can rap ...ohwait ... it's just a handle you picked because you are desperate to  " BELONG "  

[Cleanest Natural]

2 hours of cardio is a lot specially if there no carbs (or small amount) in your system. That screams "catabolic" for most people. Well, I guess that moderate volume and light weights preserved a bit o glycogen there. I agree though that getting under 7-8% is almost impossible without burners. At least, for the vast majority.

I wanted a specificlook

Exactly what you see in the picture

I did not care for muscle mass at all....was not on my list

I wanted tolook like ...maybe fitness models do ...like a beach look

I had to diet and train acordingly as without aas and t3/fatburners you cannot train as intense, as much and you don't burn fat as efficient

I wanted to see how the body responds naturally ...and let me tell you ...it's a bitch

naturally your body will fight every inch of the way to stay BALANCED ...

Achieving that "look" means being imballanced 24/7

so that's why it's so difficult to do this bodybuilding thing

and that's why naturally you body plateaus so quick ...

we are not designed to body build

in order to do so weneed to ingest/take hormones, AAS etc to build/maintain muscle and burn fat.

That's why body building is such an optical illusion and it lasts for as long as you do what's necessary to maintain that look.

[DK II]

I dieted cycling my carbs, 2 hours of cardio daily, light weights and moderate volume, I couldn't go bellow what you see there in bodyfat without fat burners as the dieting was aking it'stoll on me ...

with aas and fatburners etc it's a whole diff ballgame

thanks.

Fatburners as in ECA, t3 and so on i guess...

How long did you maintain that condition. From the pics you posted, i get the impression that you are the bulk/cut type. you show a different composition in every pic set.

What kind of training / supps / food is the best in your opinion?

Oh and yes, training natural IS a bitch.

[RZA]

I wanted a specificlook

Exactly what you see in the picture

I did not care for muscle mass at all....was not on my list

I wanted tolook like ...maybe fitness models do ...like a beach look

I had to diet and train acordingly as without aas and t3/fatburners you cannot train as intense, as much and you don't burn fat as efficient

I wanted to see how the body responds naturally ...and let me tell you ...it's a bitch

naturally your body will fight every inch of the way to stay BALANCED ...

Achieving that "look" means being imballanced 24/7

so that's why it's so difficult to do this bodybuilding thing

and that's why naturally you body plateaus so quick ...

we are not designed to body build

in order to do so weneed to ingest/take hormones, AAS etc to build/maintain muscle and burn fat.

That's why body building is such an optical illusion and it lasts for as long as you do what's necessary to maintain that look.

That I agree 100%. I've only been training for two years now and seriously for a little more than one year. I started at 145 pounds and at first my body reacted extremely well to the extra food and the training. It took me a year and a half to reach 175 pounds without hormones. But I plateaud there and I didn't feel that good with all that extra weight in such a short time so I decided to diet down. Also to know what it was like to do so and shed the extra fat that was there of course. My training was not that far from yours but less cardio, more volume wad trying to maintain (relatively speaking) the weights. I did that for twelve weeks and at first the results were great. lost a lot of fat, maintained the muscle. bu then again, after 8 weeks, it became much harder and I started losing muscle mass also and the fat was holding so to say. I still have to figure out exactly how my body responds to nutrition and training. But I'm certainly not ready too much weight in such a short time like I first did and I actually don't think my body at this point could metabolize the way it did when I started training and eating more.

[Cleanest Natural]

thanks.

Fatburners as in ECA, t3 and so on i guess...

How long did you maintain that condition. From the pics you posted, i get the impression that you are the bulk/cut type. you show a different composition in every pic set.

What kind of training / supps / food is the best in your opinion?

Oh and yes, training natural IS a bitch.

I maintained that condition for 2 weeks ...once I got there ...

training is best IMO with light /moderate weights and medium high volume depending on whether you juice or not ...

when clean, I train light and take plenty of time to recover , eat less, etc

when on juice , it's a diff ball game

no supps whatsoever as I consider them useless and totally unnecesarry

food ?

depending on what you want to achieve ...bulk, cut maintain etc

I try  myself to eat healthy and I advise my clients to eat healthy first and that comes from the quality of the ingredients ...( I tell them where to buy stuff from, what brand, what market )

My hobby has been cooking for more than 10 years ..

I constantly challenge myself to come up with new recipes that are healthy and also good for body building or loosing fat (which is what I specialize in )

I absolutely love to cook and you gave me a good ideea : I'll post on getbig pics and recipes for bodybuilding food

 
It'll be called 300 ways to cook dry chicken and brocolli

Actually my clients who come for fatloss are surprized at the variety on the menu, and at the fact that they rarely feel hungry.

[DK II]

the recipes are a good idea!!

I slightly disagree on the supplement issue though, I made a lot of improvements strengthwise and recoverywise with taking BCAA, creatine and beta-alanine.

Some good whey is obligatory as well.