behind the neck presses

[ozman]

for rear delts

dangerous ?

who does them ?

if I do bent over side raises , it plays havoc on my lower back

[BB]

You'll  have to figure that out on your own. I never had trouble with them. Here are a few things that might help:

1) Watch the the depth, generally I go to the bottom of the earlobe or so. Any lower and I tend to get a little irritation.

2) Play with your grip a bit. I tend to go moderate or a bit narrow. 

3) Keep the bar tight and inline with your shoulders and traps. When form breaks down folks tend to push from too far back, and that will annoy the shoulders.

4) Find a platform or power rack to use where you can ditch the bar if you get into trouble .     


 

[laurion]

I do them standing up only,
1. Your body wasn't meant to push weight over your head while in a seated position.
2. Less likely to injure yourself due to restricted movement in the shoulder due to being seated.

BTW: Try doing bent over side raises one arm at a time while using your non working arm to hold on to a stable rail in your gym or something. 

[dan18]

for rear delts

dangerous ?

who does them ?

if I do bent over side raises , it plays havoc on my lower back

No need period.... front presses only with bar will hit front and side delts...
dumbbells will be 90% side thats all you need..For rear delts bent laterals heavy.

[MisterMagoo]

not good for rear delts, but standing BTN presses are fantastic as long as you keep your form tight.

[leonp1981]

If I'm doing behind the neck presses, I'll leave them to the end of the workout so I'm not using as much weight.

A good rear delt burner is behind the back upright rows.  They feel a bit strange at first but they generate a nice pump in the rear delts.

[GoneAway]

If you have a preacher curl or incline bench, you can just lower the incline to near-flat, lie face down on there and do your DB reverse flyes that way. You use much less lower back this way, as your upperbody is supported by the bench and gravity.

[Zach Trowbridge]

You should be fine assuming that you take the time to adequately warm up your shoulders beforehand and work on general shoulder girdle mobility and flexibility.  I think a lot of the reason behind-neck movements get a bad rap is because a lot of guys don't have shit for flexibility in their delts and upper back, and so they can't keep the bar where it belongs, and end up destroying their rotators.

[garebear]

I don't really think that they are necessary, at least for me personally.

It is more important to press in front, and while standing. This is necessary for the shoulder as well as the top of the chest. The top of the chest acheives an incredible contraction to assist the weight going up, a unique angle for it to be worked. Obviously, it hits the shoulders hard as well.

Anything more, such as the traps ( if that's the advantage? ), can be worked in isolation anyway.

I do behind the neck presses maybe one set per month, just for the hell of it. But I see no big advantage.

[tbombz]

behind the neck tend to hit a little bit farther into the side delts and less of upper chest tthan front presses.

[WillGrant]

No good if you have rotator cuff problems 

[Bobby]

i like em!

I do them seated with a wide grip, ring finger on the markings. same wide grip as for bench presses. Don't go below the ears. i have it as a second exercise, after db press. So i don't use that much weight. I usually do every other week front and behind the neck.

[CHEVEN]

It hurts my elbow and shoulder thinking about it.

[LatsMcGee]

I like Bradford presses better.

[bigbychoice]

I just found out about these "Bradford presses". They seem pretty kick ass!

[CalvinH]

I do them about every 4th shoulder workout.

[Royalty]

I like them. I do the exercise on the smith machine

[turnerg31]

I like them. I do the exercise on the smith machine

I do the same. I can do behind the neck, upright rows and shrugs on the Smith Machine and my shoulders will be blasted.  Throw in some rear delts and sometimes side laterals and I'm toast.  The Smith Machine is the best thing since sliced bread.  Used it a lot less when I was younger but it's become my best friend here lately.

Pat

[JasonH]

I love them - I usually alternate them in my delt workouts along with dumbell presses. I'm pretty flexible on them too, going down below my ears - unlike some guys I've seen who do half or quarter reps.

[mass 04]

I love them. IMO they are superior to the front press, at least for me. The key is to lower the bar where it is comfortable for you. Injuries occur on this when you go way lower than you should.

[The Apprentice]

i do drop snatches and behind the neck push presses using the snatch grip, works for me

[Buffgeek]

I used to be a big fan of these and saw tremendous results....... until I tore my Labrum/cuff.

Normally I picked the weight up from the ground and worked into my sets graduallly workin my way up. I had just moved up 10lbs to 255 and decided to be lazy and do the seated militaries. I did one rep, lost control of the weight which starting moving backwards opening ip my cuff and in a panic pressed the weight and heard a sharp snap.

Needless to say I knew I had messed up bad immiedetly. I had been training for 12 years at that point and ever since then I havent been able to train heavy without pain. I have had to completely modify my routines in order to avoid certain movements and cannot do front raises anymore.

I would stick to in front of the head so you avoid opening your cuff and make sure you can keep control.

[Vendication]

I like Bradford presses better.

Great exercise.

[pumpster]

I used to be a big fan of these and saw tremendous results....... until I tore my Labrum/cuff.

Normally I picked the weight up from the ground and worked into my sets graduallly workin my way up. I had just moved up 10lbs to 255 and decided to be lazy and do the seated militaries. I did one rep, lost control of the weight which starting moving backwards opening ip my cuff and in a panic pressed the weight and heard a sharp snap.

Needless to say I knew I had messed up bad immiedetly. I had been training for 12 years at that point and ever since then I havent been able to train heavy without pain. I have had to completely modify my routines in order to avoid certain movements and cannot do front raises anymore.

I would stick to in front of the head so you avoid opening your cuff and make sure you can keep control.

Except that what you did to injure them was pretty extreme, with some care no one has to go thru that or experience the same problems with BNP. Especially if they're done fully under control using manageable poundages, and if partial ROM is used, avoiding the more problematic bottom portion.