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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #75 on: October 21, 2008, 10:31:49 PM »
Gayer than bragging about wrist thickness, you definatly have a small dick, do you drive a pickup truck aswell?

p.s you might want to remove Jeffro's tongue from your fat sweaty anus.
and jeffro, you probably haven't even benched 225 yet you little shemale so shut the fuck up.

gayer than chaos not realizing he has 2 inches of fat on his wrists
and a bald cone shaped head
being ugly as fuck his wrists are what he should be CUTTING

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #76 on: October 21, 2008, 10:32:37 PM »
Gayer than bragging about wrist thickness, you definatly have a small dick, do you drive a pickup truck aswell?

p.s you might want to remove Jeffro's tongue from your fat sweaty anus.
and jeffro, you probably haven't even benched 225 yet you little shemale so shut the fuck up.

Calm down skinny, it ain't that serious. ::)

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #77 on: October 21, 2008, 10:32:43 PM »
I couple of years. I hit 225lbs when I was a senior in high school. a long time ago........a long loooong time ago :D

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #78 on: October 21, 2008, 10:36:26 PM »
Calm down skinny, it ain't that serious. ::)

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #79 on: October 21, 2008, 11:56:18 PM »
Immediately on the smith. Crossed over to free weights and had to re-master my form starting at 185 for reps. 205 came in about a month, 225 maybe another month. Got up to like 270 with a big arch but touching my chest with the bar 9months  of steady training. Plateaued for a while.....tried some dbol...315....325....tri ed some sust.......340.....365.. 385.....etc etc. Did 405 for reps after 3 or 4 years training. Admittedly I was overweight and a wanna-be power-lifter. Weighed up to 305 at 6'1". Much leaner now at 265. Now I just do inclines and dips most of the time and flyes to pre-exhaust.
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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #80 on: October 22, 2008, 01:58:13 AM »
My philosphy: 85% of 1RM, or you're wasting time. Don't lift to failure. Train type IIB fibers, or try to hit them at least. Teach the muscle to contract against resistance during a movement to maximize motor unit recruitment. Strong muscles are big muscles. Training is far more important than diet -- we are a lazy people and are afraid of hard work...killer training can more than make up for poor nutrition (if you want an example, look at the NFL)...but a great diet will not make a poor trainer huge and strong. Train movements, not muscles. Correct imbalances before they lay you out. Train every day -- rest is over rated. The body will adapt. Fools change their training too often -- consistent effort leads to measurable, consistent results.

Diet wise, I eat to live, and not the other way around. Get a gram of protein per kilo of bodyweight. Eat 10 to 12 kcal per pound of ideal bodyweight to lose fat. Eat 13 to 15 kcal per pound of bodyweight to gain muscle and a little bit of fat that you can hopefully lose easily.

That's about it. Hard to sum up a man's beliefs in one page, now that I've tried.

Bottom line: if you aren't a pro, take it easy and have fun with this. Most guys take it way too seriously. Last time I checked, lifting weights and bodybuilding could still be fun.

Excellent post snx. It's obvious that your knowledge is emperical and not theoretical.

My experience however is that the type of training is not that important. I made great progress with very different types of training. The only thing that did not work for me is very high number of reps. But I do agree that frequent switching of training methods is highly overrated.

I don't think that the difference between going to failure or not is that important. Going to failure essentially just means one rep more. Regarding 1RM, trying 1RM itself has no great benefits IMO, but the process of getting there (e.g. using HST) can be very beneficial in breaking plateaus.

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #81 on: October 22, 2008, 05:23:31 AM »
Gayer than bragging about wrist thickness, you definatly have a small dick, do you drive a pickup truck aswell?

p.s you might want to remove Jeffro's tongue from your fat sweaty anus.
and jeffro, you probably haven't even benched 225 yet you little shemale so shut the fuck up.

Someone is on the sensitive side, huh? :D

Need a kotex?

Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #82 on: October 22, 2008, 07:14:28 AM »
I'll try to answer each of your questions here.

The frequency of training is sustainable and you can recover from it. A muscle can learn to recover quite quickly. It's the CNS that takes a long time to recover if you over-work it. I assume you feed yourself properly when I make this broad-reaching statement.

Yes, you exercise your whole body every day. A non-specialized split looks like this for me (NOTE: I superset these. Supersetting is great when you practice alactic training. It also helps you move along quickly and prevents doddling in the gym.):

MONDAY:

Deadlift - 8 sets of 3 reps
Snatch - 8 sets of 3 reps


TUESDAY:

Military press - 8 sets of 3 reps
DB lunge - 4 sets of 5 reps
Chin-ups - 4 sets of 5 reps

WED:

DB press, inclined - 8 sets of 3 reps
Barbell row - 8 sets of 3 reps

THUR:

Squat - 8 sets of 3 reps
DB row - 4 sets of 5 reps
DB flye - 4 sets of 5 reps

FRI:

Clean and jerk - 15 sets of 1 rep
Pulldowns - 5 sets of 5 reps

SAT:

Pullups - 8 sets of 3 reps
Glute-Ham raises - 8 sets of 2 reps with weight

SUN:

Pullover and press - 8 sets of 3 reps
Abdominal work with medicine ball

That's about it. I also work on mobility 3 days a week, using foam rollers, stretching, and joint mobility increasing exercises. I do HIT cardio (I hate calling it that) once, maybe twice, per week. It's usually dragging a sled for a dozen or so 20-yard sprints. I find that fun. Or, I use a Tabata method on a tough exercise like squatting.

I would rather eat razors than walk on a treadmill.

As for failure, I avoid it if I can through meticulous planning with my poundages. Sometimes, I might hit failure. When I do, I know I've gotten over-zealous and established a target that was too aggressive for me. I have an ego too, and sometimes, it gets the best of me. Here's how I typically progress through an exercise to add weight (you'll notice it's agonizingly slow. It works, though. You just have to be patient).

Let's take my deadlift, for example.

Week one: 8 sets x 3 reps with 405 pounds
Week two: 1 set x 3 reps with 410 pounds, 7 sets x 3 reps with 405
Week three: 2 sets x 3 reps with 410 pounds, 6 sets x 3 reps with 405
Week four: 3 sets x 3 reps with 410 pounds, 6 set x 3 reps with 405
....and so on....

Until finally, on week 10, I'm able to deadlift 410 lbs for 8 sets of 3 reps. That's two months, essentially, to add 5 pounds to my deadlift. However, let's do some simple math. In doing so, in 8 weeks, I've increased my body's capacity from 9,720 pounds of work (8x3x405) to 9840 pounds of work (8x3x410). That extra 120 pounds had to have done something to my muscles. I won't give me Dorian's back, but it sure won't make it any worse than it is now. And, each week, I had the personal satisfaction of seeing progress. And, if all goes well, at the end of a year, my deadlift is up about 30 pounds. That's reasonable, and achievable. 30 pounds on your deadlift is nothing to sneeze at. Well, at least it isn't when you're as old as I am and been at this as long as I have.

Good luck at the Mr. GB. And of course, best of luck with your off-season training. They shouldn't call it off-season. They should call it on-season. Because that's when you should be working hardest.
great stuff  8)
you make youself sound like a 50 year old man, I don't think you're that old  :-\

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #83 on: October 22, 2008, 07:17:48 AM »
about 6 months. not bad i suppose. ???

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #84 on: October 22, 2008, 10:03:04 AM »
I'm glad people are writing books about this topic instead of just answering the question ::)

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #85 on: October 22, 2008, 10:06:51 AM »
I'm glad people are writing books about this topic instead of just answering the question ::)
hahahah this guy wrote his P.h.D dissertation on a workout.

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #86 on: October 22, 2008, 10:14:01 AM »
hahahah this guy wrote his P.h.D dissertation on a workout.


Haha.I just read his last post and not a single mention of a bench press ;D

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #87 on: October 22, 2008, 04:09:26 PM »
2 years but form was shit!

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #88 on: October 23, 2008, 11:06:32 AM »
6 months at age 17.

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #89 on: October 23, 2008, 11:42:18 AM »
To bring this topic back to point.......

So would the general consensus by approx. 2 years?

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #90 on: October 23, 2008, 12:49:30 PM »
I started training on and off freshman year 1981 weighing at about 100 pounds @5'1". and was doing sets with 135. After graduating and training for real (between partying) I was doing 225 for sets of 12 within a year at about 160 pounds bodyweight and 5 foot 7 inches.

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #91 on: October 23, 2008, 12:51:10 PM »
I started training on and off freshman year 1981 weighing at about 100 pounds @5'1". and was doing sets with 135. After graduating and training for real (between partying) I was doing 225 for sets of 12 within a year at about 160 pounds bodyweight and 5 foot 7 inches.
good stuff man, you should post some pics of yourself, you must be a beast.

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Re: How long had you been training for when you first hit 225 on Bench Press
« Reply #92 on: October 23, 2008, 01:57:55 PM »
Myself 1.5 years.
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4 months, but it's not really that easy to judge, as I trained quite a bit as a teenager, thus muscle-memory may have come into play.

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