Super Shredder Stack

[tbombz]

lol.



gonna update your pre contest photo thread on positive board anytime soon ? should be pretty close to stage ready now, huh ?

[OTHstrong]

lol.



gonna update your pre contest photo thread on positive board anytime soon ? should be pretty close to stage ready now, huh ?

Actually I'm waiting to carb load on sat, and wake up nice and dry on sunday, witch will be 2 weeks out, closer to 3 but on sunday I take it as 2 weeks, I am down another 5 pounds, shoulders and chest striations, but I don't stop till the glutes are striated, so will post by monday night, and I'm probably going to load up with 20 pancakes

[tbombz]

giants stack of pancakes with syrup and butter.     its a beautiful thing.

[OTHstrong]

giants stack of pancakes with syrup and butter.     its a beautiful thing.

I'll skip the butter, but the syrup is a must, but I'm in total ketosis right now, so I can take the amount of syrup you put on one pancack for 4 of mine and it will taste just as good.

[Captain Equipoise]

*Run your test-e or cyp till 8wks out then switch to prop
*250mg/eq/ wk is a waste IMO...eq needs to be at 400-600mg/wk to be worth anything.
*I'd start the eq at 16wks out and then drop it 8wks out and then add in the tren-a
*On the prop, I'd run 100mg-150mg/eod
*I'd run arimidex or letrozol during the diet at 1mg/eod

*Clen, I don't care for the on/off clen approach, I also don't care for ECA...personal preference. I prefer to use clen on a more slow and gradual pyramid and stay on the entire time.

*T-3, yes, you can use it the whole time. Start at 25-50mcg/ed and bump it up 12.5-25mcg every 2wks or so...no exact protocol here, use your judgment as to how and when you need to bump it up. When your show is over, stay on the t-3 another 1-2wks at 25mcg/ed to help ease off of it. No need to do a slow gradual downward pyramid.

*HGH, a low dose of HGH will help with fat loss and conditioning, 16wks IMO is the minimum and 4iu/ed would be more like it to see effects. You will get some use out of 2iu/ed for 10wks but probably not enough to really notice IMO.

If you want more precise advise, lay out both of your cycles in more specific terms, i.e. lay out the specifics of your bulking cycle, mg's, wks, etc. Also, are these two cycles back to back or is there a break in the middle? You didn't say

I agree with everything else, and to a certain degree with the statement about EQ  IF it's UG,  BUT
if you have legit Vet EQ like Equigan or Ganabol then 200mg will be more then enough, the legit Vet stuff is incredible and comes in (for the most part) 50cc jugs.

[tbombz]

I agree with everything else, and to a certain degree with the statement about EQ  IF it's UG,  BUT
if you have legit Vet EQ like Equigan or Ganabol then 200mg will be more then enough, the legit Vet stuff is incredible and comes in (for the most part) 50cc jugs.

what do you like about equipoise? ive never tried it, but  i hear alot from guys who have tried both eq and deca and they say they dont find any reason to use eq when they have the option of deca.

[dustin]

I used EQ and was completely underwhelmed. In a fit of rage I bombed about 1.5g a week and felt nothing. It was bunk.... I got my shit refunded and got some legit EQ and 600mgs a week was nice, but nothing spectacular. I'm naturally vascular and if I took any over the counter bodybuilding supplement, I'd get the same vascularity from EQ without the sky rocketing RBCs. Very unimpressed. I used it because I thought it'd help to put on lean, retainable gains but I should have just used more test instead.

I guess if you want it there for collagen synthesis that's not a bad idea. But like tbombz said there's always deca... people are so afraid of deca dick and gyno, but just take something to help with prolactin/progesterone and you won't have any challenges. You can also opt for something that's faster acting like NPP. People are super quick to jump to high tren doses but fear deca somehow. There's a reason why it was cherished during the Golden era!

[Captain Equipoise]

what do you like about equipoise? ive never tried it, but  i hear alot from guys who have tried both eq and deca and they say they dont find any reason to use eq when they have the option of deca.

Real clean , properly synthesized Vet EQ is fucking amazing... it's one of the cleanest steroids around, great gains and has the best of both worlds, meaning you get big (like with test) and lean (like with tren,anavar) also keeps you incredibly full (due to increasing red blood cell count like EPO - which is also why it's used frequently in fighting sports and martial arts) and lean and vascular. For me at least it's a  wonder drug. Personally I hate deca, deca to me means tons of bloat, water and deca dick.. I've run deca on 4 seperate ocassions, each with plenty of test and everytime had bad results with it, oh and I'm talking human grade doctor prescribed nadrolone decanoate , not underground shit. Also ran NPP few cycles, had better results with that product, way less water then deca.

[tbombz]

Real clean , properly synthesized Vet EQ is fucking amazing... it's one of the cleanest steroids around, great gains and has the best of both worlds, meaning you get big (like with test) and lean (like with tren,anavar) also keeps you incredibly full (due to increasing red blood cell count like EPO - which is also why it's used frequently in fighting sports and martial arts) and lean and vascular. For me at least it's a  wonder drug. Personally I hate deca, deca to me means tons of bloat, water and deca dick.. I've run deca on 4 seperate ocassions, each with plenty of test and everytime had bad results with it, oh and I'm talking human grade doctor prescribed nadrolone decanoate , not underground shit. Also ran NPP few cycles, had better results with that product, way less water then deca.

what doseage of eq? honest dosseage though, not some lee preist bullcarb oh i only use a little bit kind of doseage, lol.

[Captain Equipoise]

what doseage of eq? honest dosseage though, not some lee preist bullcarb oh i only use a little bit kind of doseage, lol.

When I used to use underground vet (denkall, QV and british dragon) I would use 400mg/week, the REAL Canadian vet stuff I get now, I use 200mg/week (it's 50mg/cc but it's legit)  I get better results @ 200mg of the real shit then I had at 400mg of the underground!  I've always done small/low dosed cycles, highest I ever went in a cycle was 1250mg of sustanon w 600mg of eq + orals, usualyl I keep test around 500-750, just enough to offset the other products and keep my sex drive in  check.

[Arnold jr]

I agree with everything else, and to a certain degree with the statement about EQ  IF it's UG,  BUT
if you have legit Vet EQ like Equigan or Ganabol then 200mg will be more then enough, the legit Vet stuff is incredible and comes in (for the most part) 50cc jugs.

You may be right. I've never had access to legit Vet grade EQ...only UG stuff, which is why I never use it anymore. I've run upwards of 900mg/wk of that junk and felt like I was injecting vegetable oil.

[Captain Equipoise]

You may be right. I've never had access to legit Vet grade EQ...only UG stuff, which is why I never use it anymore. I've run upwards of 900mg/wk of that junk and felt like I was injecting vegetable oil.

World of difference, although such is the always the case between UG and HG... I rarely stray from HG anymore, unless it's something I can't get in hg.. or unless cost starts to become an issue.. but that Vet EQ is insane... it's only 50mg/cc but u don't need more then 200mg a week , you feel pumped and full all the time
great stuff.

[Playboy]

The best vet shit I ever used was back in 1998 - 1999. Injectable Winstrol by Upjohn. Ah the good old days when the winny was good and actually worked.

[tbombz]

When I used to use underground vet (denkall, QV and british dragon) I would use 400mg/week, the REAL Canadian vet stuff I get now, I use 200mg/week (it's 50mg/cc but it's legit)  I get better results @ 200mg of the real shit then I had at 400mg of the underground!  I've always done small/low dosed cycles, highest I ever went in a cycle was 1250mg of sustanon w 600mg of eq + orals, usualyl I keep test around 500-750, just enough to offset the other products and keep my sex drive in  check.

whats the name brand of the candian veterenarian equipoise?  i think ill try it in a few months

[Captain Equipoise]

whats the name brand of the candian veterenarian equipoise?  i think ill try it in a few months

It's made by a company called Wyeth

50ml bottle, 50mg/cc

[tbombz]

damn, thats my size bottle ! 

[dustin]

It's made by a company called Wyeth

50ml bottle, 50mg/cc

I'll have to look into this. Even when I was running EQ that was supposedly legit, I was still unimpressed. I have heard good things about Wyeth however. I just hate my RBCs jumping up so high. They get high enough on test alone and I'm already crazy vascular even when I'm fat. I did like the fullness however.

[Captain Equipoise]

I'll have to look into this. Even when I was running EQ that was supposedly legit, I was still unimpressed. I have heard good things about Wyeth however. I just hate my RBCs jumping up so high. They get high enough on test alone and I'm already crazy vascular even when I'm fat. I did like the fullness however.

For me it has (as stated above) my favourite qualities of other drugs I like, the fullness of test , hardness and vascularity of winny