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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2008, 03:58:26 PM »
Soak who?  If her its her money, it really isn't a story.  It also doesn't change the fact that she pulled herself up by her bootstraps.  She worked hard for her money and if she wants to spend it on clothes, who really cares?

I hate shopping BTW.  I absolutely refuse to go shopping with my wife.  Makes me nauseous to even think about it.  :)
 

EARTH TO BEACH BUM. IT IS NOT HER MONEY, BUT A POLITICAL DONATION.

Do you even read the rest of the thread besides your posts?
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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2008, 04:28:33 PM »
EARTH TO BEACH BUM. IT IS NOT HER MONEY, BUT A POLITICAL DONATION.

Do you even read the rest of the thread besides your posts?

Again, who cares?  If she broke the law, then we have a story.  The RNC decided to spend the money.  If they broke the law, they should repay the money.  Another non-story. 

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2008, 04:39:15 PM »

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2008, 05:00:57 PM »
Again, who cares?  If she broke the law, then we have a story.  The RNC decided to spend the money.  If they broke the law, they should repay the money.  Another non-story. 
come on. you are not really this dumb. they used her POLITICAL donations to buy 150grand worth of DESIGNER CLOTHES. on 'little miss average joe for the regular people not elitist like obama just a simple hockey mom from alaska'.

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2008, 05:10:10 PM »
come on. you are not really this dumb. they used her POLITICAL donations to buy 150grand worth of DESIGNER CLOTHES. on 'little miss average joe for the regular people not elitist like obama just a simple hockey mom from alaska'.

Boo freakin hoo.  The RNC bought her some nice clothes.   ::)  They couldn't have "used her POLITICAL donations,"  because she most likely wasn't a candidate when then RNC received the donations used to buy the clothes.   

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2008, 05:30:34 PM »
Boo freakin hoo.  The RNC bought her some nice clothes.   ::)  They couldn't have "used her POLITICAL donations,"  because she most likely wasn't a candidate when then RNC received the donations used to buy the clothes.   


The Republican National Committee’s $150,000 investment in Sarah Palin’s wardrobe has prompted some teeth gnashing among the party’s big donors about its political sensibility and a feisty debate among campaign finance specialists about its legality.

“As a Republican Eagle and a maxed-out contributor to McCain’s general campaign, I’d like my money backcomplained one irate donor on Tuesday.

“I’m not one who says a candidate shouldn’t wear fine clothes,” he added. “I’d just like to think they were successful enough in the private sector to have afforded their wardrobe with their own money, not the party’s or the campaign’s, which is really our money as contributors.”

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2008, 05:38:41 PM »
We should get an itemized list of everything all the canidates spend their money on. I think it would be quite interesting.

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2008, 05:57:43 PM »
Yeah, Palin spends $18k per week on clothes.

But I'm sure the elitist rock-star Obama spends just as much.   Right?

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2008, 06:24:32 PM »
Expensive Wardrobe Goes Against McCain-Palin Story Line
By Robin Givhan

If politicos weren't so snide and dismissive of fashionistas, the McCain-Palin campaign wouldn't be in the awkward position of having to explain the $150,000 tab for shopping trips, hairstyling and beauty makeovers for Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin.

How do you sell someone as a no-frills hockey mom who sold the state plane, fired the official cook and turned down travel per diems for her family and then try to explain wardrobing her in clothes from Neiman Marcus -- a store occasionally referred to by aggrieved, frugal shoppers as Needless Markup? How do you, in barely two months, lavish her with fashion swag worthy of a starlet and valued at more than her annual governor's salary of $125,000?

That's not careless.

That's just plain stupid.


Or to use this election cycle's phrase of choice: That's some seriously bad judgment.

One assumes that her campaign is populated by some of the brightest minds and they have spent an inordinate amount of time obsessing over mind-numbing details right down to whether the candidate would stand or sit during the debate and who gets to hover behind her for photo ops. But Palin's handlers would do well to occasionally read a fashion magazine, skim a fashion blog or at least ask themselves why women are willing to spend upwards of $10,000 on a handbag known as the Birkin.

It's not because that famous Hermes bag is so pretty. It's because of what it represents: exclusivity, success and classiness. That's why frocks are a nearly $50 billion business in New York alone, and it's also why they have the power to agitate us so. It's all in the symbolism, or in the case of Palin, the dissemblance.

On good days, Americans are smart and tolerant people. They might have been surprised about exactly how much Cindy McCain spends on her Oscar de la Renta and Escada dresses, but the price tag didn't contradict her public image. A de la Renta day dress, by the way, rings up at about $5,000. The political handlers weren't trying to present this heiress as a regular gal who knows what it's like to worry about paying the mortgage. Perhaps she can empathize with such a crisis, but this is a woman who told Vogue that the kids loved her beachfront condo so much and came to visit so often . . . she bought another one just for them.

Americans do not begrudge the men custom-made suits. When Barack Obama went on a shopping spree with Hart Schaffner Marx before his nomination acceptance speech in Denver, few people blinked over his new $1,500 suit. He has even gone on to buy a couple more. But it was also conveniently revealed that Hart Schaffner Marx is an American label that manufactures its tailored clothing in Des Plaines, Ill. John McCain's $520 Ferragamo shoes aren't that big a deal either, despite what his critics had to say.

And who could forget the gush-fest Michelle Obama unleashed when she wore a $148 Donna Ricco dress on "The View" and told the audience, "You put a little pin on it and you've got something going on." That little moment overshadowed all the thousand-dollar designer ensembles featuring Thakoon, Isabel Toledo and others that she has worn. One dress was worth a hundred over-paid image consultants, political advisers and spinmeisters.

So when Politico.com rooted out the financial details of Palin's wardrobe makeover, the jaw dropped, the eyes blinked in disbelief at the total and the mind whirled at the idiocy of it all.

The purchases were paid for using Republican National Committee funds. It was only a matter of time before the dollar figure became public and the question of legality would be raised. One wonders where the Palin stylists were during the $400 haircut kerfuffle caused by John "I am a populist and the son of a millworker" Edwards. He received two such pricey haircuts during the Democratic primary and they were billed to his campaign, which is how everyone found out about them. (He later said the billing was in error and offered reimbursement.) Didn't they learn anything about the relationships between fashion, image and perception from the beating Edwards took?

It's smart for a candidate to polish her image before stepping onto the national stage. Only a fool would stand in front of a television camera without the assistance of a makeup artist and a good hairstylist. Older photographs, from when Palin was just a regular old governor and paid for her own clothes, show her wearing fleece jackets, chunky turtlenecks and windbreakers. Her wardrobe probably did need a little help. Truthfully, whose wouldn't?

Unlike a man, a woman can't easily get away with a wardrobe of a half-dozen virtually indistinguishable suits, a gross of red or blue ties and a suitcase full of white dress shirts. A woman's wardrobe will cost more, and putting it together will be more time-consuming. But it should also be one that reflects the person, her demographic and her message. And it's always nice if she actually buys it herself.

Instead, the campaign spent $75,000 at Neiman Marcus and nearly $50,000 at Saks Fifth Avenue as well as substantial amounts at Barneys New York, Macy's and Bloomingdale's. Now, if you've got a candidate whose persona centers around small-town America, Joe Six-Pack, and lots and lots of "you-betcha," what business do you have connecting her to Neiman's, Saks and Barneys, specialty stores -- no, they are not good old-fashioned department stores -- that epitomize upscale, rarified, luxury consumption? No one can make the argument that the only store open in Minneapolis in early September was the local Neiman Marcus. They couldn't have popped into J. Crew or Ann Taylor? On "What Not to Wear," Clinton and Stacy manage to build an entire wardrobe for their client for a mere $5,000.

In a statement, a Palin spokesman played the indignation card: "With all of the important issues facing the country right now, it's remarkable that we're spending time talking about pantsuits and blouses," said Tracey Schmitt. "It was always the intent that the clothing go to a charitable purpose after the campaign."

What people are talking about, however, is not pantsuits and blouses.

The reality is that there is nothing especially outstanding about the governor's clothes -- aside from the red-patent pumps and that bright red leather jacket, which she really should re-think. No matter how much they cost, they are not ostentatious or eccentric. They are, quite simply, fine.

What is baffling is the mind-boggling evidence of a tin ear for the symbolism of popular culture.

Fashion is a form of self-definition. Any retail expert can tell you that part of being a good merchant is finding a way of speaking to whomever the customer believes herself to be. A smart retailer stands for something. And in our culture, Neiman Marcus stands for "elite," not for "Everyman." And the same is true of Saks. Barneys? Make that soy chai latte-sipping, champagne-swigging elites.

When the campaign ends, we are to believe that Palin's wardrobe will be donated to charity. Thus, if the McCain ticket loses, then, like Cinderella, Palin will be stripped of her party clothes. And if the Republicans should win, Vice President Palin will be forced to start from scratch -- create herself anew.

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2008, 09:03:51 PM »
If Sarah Palin's wardrobe was a family of four, it would be doing very well under the Obama tax plan.

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2008, 09:17:15 PM »
Maybe she's a more experienced politician than we've been led to believe. :)

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2008, 09:26:27 PM »
$150k would have bought one full week of ad time in swing state Colorado.


How bout that?

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2008, 02:33:53 AM »
Maybe not a big story... but highly suspect.

The RNC should have used better judgement than to buy her 150K in clothes... She would have been better actually shopping at a small "mom and pop" store and spending a few K on both the photo Op and the premise of being one of the "regular people".

How many average Joe people spend 150K on clothes?

Seems a bit out of touch with the common man if you ask me.

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2008, 10:50:39 AM »
Soak who?  If her its her money, it really isn't a story.  It also doesn't change the fact that she pulled herself up by her bootstraps.  She worked hard for her money and if she wants to spend it on clothes, who really cares?

BB, stay updated my dear, was not her money. If it her money I could care less, I said that about Cindy. Personally, I spend quite quite a large amount on my clothing as well as my daughter, we take specific trips abroad to buy clothing, maybe silly but I'm into fashion. I do however pay for it myself. Either way anyone feels, it simply isn't the best PR move. Doesn't jibe with the image she is trying to portay, and also she is on the ticket to attract the female vote, and this move didn't help too much as it is getting quite a bit of airplay. Bad move.

Anyone saw McCain on TV when he was asked rushing to assure that he pays for his own clothes lol? I died.

I hate shopping BTW.  I absolutely refuse to go shopping with my wife.  Makes me nauseous to even think about it.  :)

My husbands entire purpose on shopping trips was to drive and carry bags, he served it well, and sat around with a pained look on his face.

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2008, 10:56:52 AM »
Excessive IMO.

But the food and catoring bills at these huge Obama events are also excessive.  Just proves my point, there is way too much waste in governement.  This is what they do with our $.  Why would we want to give them more money and power?  Power corrupts on both sides of the isle.

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2008, 11:16:48 AM »
BB, stay updated my dear, was not her money. If it her money I could care less, I said that about Cindy. Personally, I spend quite quite a large amount on my clothing as well as my daughter, we take specific trips abroad to buy clothing, maybe silly but I'm into fashion. I do however pay for it myself. Either way anyone feels, it simply isn't the best PR move. Doesn't jibe with the image she is trying to portay, and also she is on the ticket to attract the female vote, and this move didn't help too much as it is getting quite a bit of airplay. Bad move.

Anyone saw McCain on TV when he was asked rushing to assure that he pays for his own clothes lol? I died.

My husbands entire purpose on shopping trips was to drive and carry bags, he served it well, and sat around with a pained look on his face.

Her money, RNC money, McCain's money, doesn't really matter to me.  I care if she or the RNC broke the law.  Otherwise, it's another non-issue. 

Your husband is a better man than me.  I refuse to go.   :) 

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2008, 12:04:47 PM »
Yeah, Palin spends $18k per week on clothes.

But I'm sure the elitist rock-star Obama spends just as much.   Right?
His suits are estimated to be $2000-4000 a pop. 

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2008, 12:07:40 PM »
Nice joe-six-pack response:

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-121779

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2008, 03:57:34 PM »
His suits are estimated to be $2000-4000 a pop. 

Did the DNC give him the money to buy them is the real question.

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2008, 09:17:40 AM »
Of the $150,000 spent by the Republican National Committee on clothing for the vice presidential candidate, $50,000 worth of clothes was returned immediately after the national convention, $50,000 worth hasn't been worn yet and $50,000 is being used by the Palin clan.

Sarah Palin told FOX News on Thursday that some of the clothes that were ill-fitting or just bought to be tried and possibly worn were returned right away.

Everything that "could be returned was," she said. Another third of the clothing remains unwrapped and packed in the belly of the vice presidential candidate's campaign plane and the rest is being worn.

Republican aides say the purchases were necessary because the family was whisked out of Alaska without notice, then scattered across the country for campaign activities not least of which was a week of convention appearances.

"Those clothes are not my property," Palin told FOX News' Sean Hannity. "We had three days (at the convention) of using clothes that the RNC purchased."

Palin added that she knows how to make a dollar work for her appearance.

"If people knew how Todd and I and our kids shop so frugally. My favorite shop is a consignment shop in Anchorage, Alaska, called 'Out of the Closet,' and my shoe store is called 'Shoe Fly' in Juneau, Alaska. It is ... not 5th Avenue type of shopping," Palin said, adding that the RNC purchases will either be returned or go to charity.

RNC officials would not explain why this explanation is surfacing days after the purchase appeared in news stories, advisers declined to answer. They did describe much of what Palin wears now as bought "off the sale rack from Macy's."

News of the purchases of designer clothes, largely from upscale Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus, contrasts with the image Palin has crafted as a typical "hockey mom."

McCain was asked several questions on Thursday about the shopping spree -- and he answered each one more or less the same way: Palin needed clothes and they'll be donated to charity.

He said his wardrobe was not purchased by the RNC. Asked Wednesday who had paid for the suit he was wearing, Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden told WSLS-TV in Roanoke, Va.: "I pay for my suits. I pay for all of my own clothing."

Also on Thursday, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics, a private watchdog group in Washington, filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission against Palin, the Republican National Committee and several political operatives alleging that the purchase of clothing for Palin and her family violates Federal Election Campaign Act.

The law prohibits a candidate for federal office from converting campaign funds to personal use. CREW notes that FEC regulations make clear the prohibition applies to clothing but also provide that donations by candidates to charity are not for personal use. CREW argued this exception might apply to Palin's clothes but doesn't appear to apply to clothes for her family.

Palin, who is John McCain's vice presidential running mate, told The Chicago Tribune in an interview posted on the newspaper's Web site Thursday night that she finds a double standard in the questioning.

"I think Hillary Clinton was held to a different standard in her primary race," Palin said. "Do you remember the conversations that took place about her, say superficial things that they don't talk about with men, her wardrobe and her hairstyles, all of that? That's a bit of that double standard."

"It's kind of painful to be criticized for something when all the facts are not out there and are not reported," Palin said.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2008, 10:09:22 AM »
I wonder how much Biden is spending on botox?

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2008, 10:18:27 AM »
I wonder how much Biden is spending on botox?


......and hair plugs

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2008, 10:22:04 AM »
Agree.

She can't though

It's all over the news - the repubs spent $150,000 of donations on her and her families clothes and her makeup, wasn't her money 1 bit.

How much were Biden's hair plugs?  how much were Bidens' teeth bleech and Botox?

How much has Obama's hair coloring cost?

How much have Obama's suits cost????

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Re: Palin - $150K on clothing!!
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2008, 10:33:43 AM »
Did the DNC give him the money to buy them is the real question.
You're serious, aren't you?   :o

What do you think?