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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #100 on: October 24, 2008, 02:01:35 PM »
Yes I get your point:  "conspiracy/foul play."  You mentioned "conspiracy" right off the bat, just like you mentioned conspiracy with Joe the Plumber and any number of other issues.


you're still twisting the point.  my major point of contention was to point out that "dirty tricks" are common during elections... you mocked me for another CT...  I'm now just pointing this out as a reminder that what I said is true.  I do not say so because of this case alone but as a citizen who has lived through enough elections to see that this is a common matter to watch out for during elections.

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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #101 on: October 24, 2008, 02:09:10 PM »
you're still twisting the point.  my major point of contention was to point out that "dirty tricks" are common during elections... you mocked me for another CT...  I'm now just pointing this out as a reminder that what I said is true.  I do not say so because of this case alone but as a citizen who has lived through enough elections to see that this is a common matter to watch out for during elections.

You're actually trying to blend two separate subjects (conspiracy and dirty tricks).  I agreed with you that there are dirty tricks in pretty much every campaign.  What I don't agree with is finding a conspiracy under every rock.  Like this one and Joe the Plumber, etc. 

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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #102 on: October 24, 2008, 02:21:38 PM »
You're actually trying to blend two separate subjects (conspiracy and dirty tricks).  I agreed with you that there are dirty tricks in pretty much every campaign.  What I don't agree with is finding a conspiracy under every rock.  Like this one and Joe the Plumber, etc. 

JTP was a plant, plain and simple. 


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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #103 on: October 24, 2008, 02:22:20 PM »
You're actually trying to blend two separate subjects (conspiracy and dirty tricks).  I agreed with you that there are dirty tricks in pretty much every campaign.  What I don't agree with is finding a conspiracy under every rock.  Like this one and Joe the Plumber, etc. 
No... you have it wrong... look, by definition a conspiracy is an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime or fraud... Conspiracy or individual foul play are both major things to look out for during an election... They both happen as a matter of FACT!!!  I'm not looking for a conspiracy under every rock???...  On the contrary I'm well aware of when they are more likely to happen and when they are not and I'm on guard for the times logic dictates.  You seem to approach the word conspiracy like it's some dramatic thing that must involve Agent Mulder & Scully...  In fact minor conspiracy happens on a daily basis and most cases go uncaught.  You call up any inspector and confirm that...  You say I look under every rock... I say I'm a realist...

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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #104 on: October 24, 2008, 02:31:28 PM »
No... you have it wrong... look, by definition a conspiracy is an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime or fraud... Conspiracy or individual foul play are both major things to look out for during an election... They both happen as a matter of FACT!!!  I'm not looking for a conspiracy under every rock???...  On the contrary I'm well aware of when they are more likely to happen and when they are not and I'm on guard for the times logic dictates.  You seem to approach the word conspiracy like it's some dramatic thing that must involve Agent Mulder & Scully...  In fact minor conspiracy happens on a daily basis and most cases go uncaught.  You call up any inspector and confirm that...  You say I look under every rock... I say I'm a realist...

Conspiracy to commit crimes happen as a matter of fact during elections?  I'm sure there have been some crimes in the past.  But if you're trying to say there was a conspiracy by McCain or members of the Republican party to plant Joe the Plumber and/or to plant this not-too-bright girl, I say prove it. 

What inspector do I call who will confirm conspiracies happen on a daily basis?  And how will they know if "most cases go uncaught"?  For that matter, how do you know about them if they don't get caught? 

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« Reply #105 on: October 24, 2008, 03:02:45 PM »
Conspiracy to commit crimes happen as a matter of fact during elections?  I'm sure there have been some crimes in the past.  But if you're trying to say there was a conspiracy by McCain or members of the Republican party to plant Joe the Plumber and/or to plant this not-too-bright girl, I say prove it. 

What inspector do I call who will confirm conspiracies happen on a daily basis?  And how will they know if "most cases go uncaught"?  For that matter, how do you know about them if they don't get caught? 

yes, foul play and conspiracy happens during major elections...  As an absolute?  no... but it would be very rare in these times for it not to happen, that is a fact.  Not only a fact but a common fact...  You start counting the local bullshit that happens that never hits the national radar, it happens a lot...  If you don't see this, you are crazy.  I wasn't talking about Joe the Plumber, I don't remember where I made a definitive conspiracy theory on Joe?  Can you quote it for me?  Call anyone you see fit, most of these kind of crimes go uncaught...

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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #106 on: October 24, 2008, 03:10:38 PM »
yes, foul play and conspiracy happens during major elections...  As an absolute?  no... but it would be very rare in these times for it not to happen, that is a fact.  Not only a fact but a common fact...  You start counting the local bullshit that happens that never hits the national radar, it happens a lot...  If you don't see this, you are crazy.  I wasn't talking about Joe the Plumber, I don't remember where I made a definitive conspiracy theory on Joe?  Can you quote it for me?  Call anyone you see fit, most of these kind of crimes go uncaught...

It's a "common fact" that conspiracies happen in major elections in the minds of paranoid conspiracy theorists.  It makes zero sense to say conspiracies happen all the time, but that those same conspiracies "go uncaught."  How the heck do you know that?? 

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« Reply #107 on: October 24, 2008, 03:12:03 PM »
It's a "common fact" that conspiracies happen in major elections in the minds of paranoid conspiracy theorists.  It makes zero sense to say conspiracies happen all the time, but that those same conspiracies "go uncaught."  How the heck do you know that?? 

Oh dumbshit with your head stuck in the sand... whatever you say, you clearly know more than me ::)

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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #108 on: October 24, 2008, 03:18:52 PM »
Already proven to be an inside job.

Conspiracy might comes out in 48 hours when we found out if the story came directly to drudge from mccain camp, which is where all signs are pointing ;)

It may not take 48 hours, you handsome devil!


John McCain's Pennsylvania communications director told reporters in the state an incendiary version of the hoax story about the attack on a McCain volunteer well before the facts of the case were known or established -- and even told reporters outright that the "B" carved into the victim's cheek stood for "Barack," according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions.

John Verrilli, the news director for KDKA in Pittsburgh, told TPM Election Central that McCain's Pennsylvania campaign communications director gave one of his reporters a detailed version of the attack that included a claim that the alleged attacker said, "You're with the McCain campaign? I'm going to teach you a lesson."

Verrilli also told TPM that the McCain spokesperson had claimed that the "B" stood for Barack. According to Verrilli, the spokesperson also told KDKA that Sarah Palin had called the victim of the alleged attack, who has since admitted the story was a hoax.

The KDKA reporter had called McCain's campaign office for details after seeing the story -- sans details -- teased on Drudge.

The McCain spokesperson's claims -- which came in the midst of extraordinary and heated conversations late yesterday between the McCain campaign, local TV stations, and the Obama camp, as the early version of the story rocketed around the political world -- is significant because it reveals a McCain official pushing a version of the story that was far more explosive than the available or confirmed facts permitted at the time.

The claims to KDKA from the McCain campaign were included in an early story that ran late yesterday on KDKA's Web site. The paragraphs containing these assertions were quickly removed from the story after the Obama campaign privately complained that KDKA was letting the McCain campaign spin a racially-charged version of the story before the facts had been established, according to two sources familiar with the discussions.

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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #109 on: October 24, 2008, 03:28:50 PM »
It may not take 48 hours, you handsome devil!


John McCain's Pennsylvania communications director told reporters in the state an incendiary version of the hoax story about the attack on a McCain volunteer well before the facts of the case were known or established -- and even told reporters outright that the "B" carved into the victim's cheek stood for "Barack," according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions.

John Verrilli, the news director for KDKA in Pittsburgh, told TPM Election Central that McCain's Pennsylvania campaign communications director gave one of his reporters a detailed version of the attack that included a claim that the alleged attacker said, "You're with the McCain campaign? I'm going to teach you a lesson."

Verrilli also told TPM that the McCain spokesperson had claimed that the "B" stood for Barack. According to Verrilli, the spokesperson also told KDKA that Sarah Palin had called the victim of the alleged attack, who has since admitted the story was a hoax.

The KDKA reporter had called McCain's campaign office for details after seeing the story -- sans details -- teased on Drudge.

The McCain spokesperson's claims -- which came in the midst of extraordinary and heated conversations late yesterday between the McCain campaign, local TV stations, and the Obama camp, as the early version of the story rocketed around the political world -- is significant because it reveals a McCain official pushing a version of the story that was far more explosive than the available or confirmed facts permitted at the time.

The claims to KDKA from the McCain campaign were included in an early story that ran late yesterday on KDKA's Web site. The paragraphs containing these assertions were quickly removed from the story after the Obama campaign privately complained that KDKA was letting the McCain campaign spin a racially-charged version of the story before the facts had been established, according to two sources familiar with the discussions.
figures......... big time busted.... McCain as well as those who jumped here should be ashamed.

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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #110 on: October 24, 2008, 03:32:59 PM »
Oh dumbshit with your head stuck in the sand... whatever you say, you clearly know more than me ::)

Go to your room and cry little toddler. 

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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #111 on: October 24, 2008, 03:44:42 PM »
Go to your room and cry little toddler. 
parent meltdown...

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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #112 on: October 24, 2008, 03:50:55 PM »
parent meltdown...

What, you're not going to delete my post again?  lol . . .

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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #113 on: October 24, 2008, 03:58:04 PM »
What, you're not going to delete my post again?  lol . . .
I deleted your post?

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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #114 on: October 24, 2008, 08:36:21 PM »
And the blacks yet again proving that they'll be the same before and after Obama gets elected.

I bet you feel like an ass now that the truth cameout ;D
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« Reply #115 on: October 24, 2008, 08:40:17 PM »
I bet you feel like an ass now that the truth cameout ;D

this bitch and everyone that jumped to a conclusion on this thread got OWNED big time.
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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #116 on: October 24, 2008, 08:54:04 PM »



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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #117 on: October 24, 2008, 09:00:43 PM »
I'm voting for either "Pinball Wizard" or "I can see for Miles".

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Re: HOAX: McCain Supporter Admits Mutilation Story Was A Lie
« Reply #118 on: October 24, 2008, 09:04:45 PM »
She faces charges but that lying black whore from the Duke fake rape case is out writing books with no charges filed.Very fair.

At least the lying whore was consistent... that's what whores do... they screw men for money...
...political staffers on the other hand, are supposed to help their candidate get elected, ...not make things worse
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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #119 on: October 24, 2008, 09:13:28 PM »
I hope that 'B' leaves a permanent scar!

And I hope she is charged with attempting to incite racial violence.
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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #120 on: October 24, 2008, 10:04:36 PM »
hey, wtf, no koodos for me :D

Stop bogarting my credit. I was the first to point out that this shit was fake.

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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #121 on: October 25, 2008, 07:15:23 AM »
what an entertaining story this turned out to "B"
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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #122 on: October 25, 2008, 08:09:00 AM »
Well, well, well. 

It was a hoax.

I still don't buy that.  Those black devils are capable of anything.  So are democRATS.

I say we run with this story as true just b/c that's what we rightwing simpletons do as a matter of course.

Remember when the Swiftboaters were thoroughly debunked?  We rightwing simpletons ran with that story like it was true.

This stuff works.

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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #123 on: October 25, 2008, 08:14:52 AM »


ahahahaha... absolutely perfect ;D  The lyrics are so appropriate!

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Re: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...
« Reply #124 on: October 25, 2008, 10:26:41 AM »
it'll be declared a conspiracy once we find out just how involved Garcia and her College Republican club was.

Seems the scratch was fake and the black eyes were mascara, and they helped her document everything with pics, which were sent to drudge as they called the police to report it.