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Why I got off the juice ?
« on: October 24, 2008, 04:28:46 PM »
 It was 21yrs and 2 months ago that I stopped useing the juice. I spent 3 years ('85-87) on moderate cycles in a lame,delusional quest for a pro bodybuilding  card. My stopping the juice had little to do with health or legal concerns. It was a very practical reason. I began to feel that I was trapped in an endless cycle of endless drug cycles. I reasoned that even if I won a national show and turned pro, I was never going to be a top 10 Olympia pro, no matter what I took. I didn't see a viable future , only a life of meager means and ending up as a BUM. No, it didn't have to end like that. I am sure that plenty of top bodybuilders have productive happy lives. It was at this time I stopped trying to be a top bodybuilder and just enjoy the sport on my terms. Now, over 2 decades later, I am happy with my decision with no regrets.

Despite my experience I think some hardcore guy can do a cycle and ramp up his training with few ill effects. It is all a matter of balance and good sense. Today, I use prescribed Androgel and enjoy good  health at age 50. If you see your own life going downhill over continued 'roid use , sit back , think and then regroup.You can still train and be a part of the iron game without having to be on endless cycles.
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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2008, 04:30:49 PM »
here we go again

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2008, 04:31:27 PM »
It was 21yrs and 2 months ago that I stopped useing the juice. I spent 3 years ('85-87) on moderate cycles in a lame,delusional quest for a pro bodybuilding  card. My stopping the juice and little to do with health or legal concerns. It was a very practical reason. I began to feel that I was trapped in an endless cycle of endless drug cycles. I reasoned that even if I won a national show and turned pro, I was never going to be a top 10 Olympia pro, no matter what I took. I didn't see a viable future , only a life of meager means and ending up as a BUM. No, it didn't have to end like that. I am sure that plenty of top bodybuilders have productive happy lives. It was at this time I stopped trying to be a top bodybuilder and just enjoy the sport on my terms. Now, over 2 decades later, I am happy with my decision with no regrets.

Despite my experience I think some hardcore guy can do a cycle and ramp up his training with few ill effects. It is all a matter of balance and good sense. Today, I use prescribed Androgel and enjoy good  health at age 50. If you see your own life going downhill over continued 'roid use , sit back , think and then regroup.You can still train and be a part of the iron game without having to be on endless cycles.
Howard
 shut up no one here cares  now get back on the juice  
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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2008, 04:34:12 PM »
geezus Howard udnerstand something---no one fucking cares about you.  Everyone on this board thinks you are a piece of shit.  Why do you continue to post?

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2008, 04:35:11 PM »
 shut up no one here cares  now get back on the juice  
Maybe not  ;D
Look, I have nothing against a guy who uses whatever drugin his/her personal traing for whatever reason .
(* not being able to enforce the actual IFBB drug rules FOR pro contests seems bad, but I digress...)
If you lift for your own personal reasons, it is YOUR choice alone what to take/not take.
I think this issue and why I stopped may be of some interest to others here at GET BIG.

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2008, 04:37:40 PM »
geezus Howard udnerstand something---no one fucking cares about you.  Everyone on this board thinks you are a piece of shit.  Why do you continue to post?
Agreed, get lost Howard!!!
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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2008, 04:38:55 PM »
Oh brother, your Test levels are probably at the rate of a 6 year old girl ::)..

Just cruise on 200 mg Test e/c /week. Might as well

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2008, 04:40:46 PM »
ban this clown >:(

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2008, 04:41:14 PM »
You can add me to the list of brothers who absolutely doesn't give a shit. Your tirade is getting old... screw the Androgel too. Ask your doctor for some test cyp instead.

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2008, 04:43:17 PM »
geezus Howard udnerstand something---no one fucking cares about you.  Everyone on this board thinks you are a piece of shit.  Why do you continue to post?
I am sure some do think I am shit.
The reality is that I have been in the sport for 3 decades, still serve as an NPC judge and competed in a buttload of shows myself . I have no idea who does what in actual bodybuilding but here is my impression.
Most that post negative crap on here , rarely compete (if ever ) and rarely go to actual shows,never mind judge or promote a show .
Nothing wrong with being a gym lifter anf fan of the sport. BUT, in my humble opinion, the most negative posters are the ones LEAST  involved in actual bodybuilding contests. This results in a "forum/online " only interaction of bodybuilding. The boards can be fun and are fine. But it can't replace being a part of actual contests as a fan , judge, or competitor, etc.
The actial shows and expos are pretty fun and positive overall.If I all I knew of bodybuilding was from the boards I would be negative all the time as well.

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2008, 04:44:34 PM »
You'll have to speak up. Us peons can't understand you all the way up on your high horse like that.

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2008, 04:47:04 PM »
You can add me to the list of brothers who absolutely doesn't give a shit. Your tirade is getting old... screw the Androgel too. Ask your doctor for some test cyp instead.
For starters the Androgel is to keep me at ideal levels for health and vitality NOT pure bodybuilding.
I don't mind some critcla reply, just curious why some of you have no interest in some objective info by someone that has actually been in the sport of bodybuilding for years and even used roids and then stopped.

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2008, 04:47:54 PM »
I am sure some do think I am shit.
The reality is that I have been in the sport for 3 decades, still serve as an NPC judge and competed in a buttload of shows myself . I have no idea who does what in actual bodybuilding but here is my impression.
Most that post negative crap on here , rarely compete (if ever ) and rarely go to actual shows,never mind judge or promote a show .
Nothing wrong with being a gym lifter anf fan of the sport. BUT, in my humble opinion, the most negative posters are the ones LEAST  involved in actual bodybuilding contests. This results in a "forum/online " only interaction of bodybuilding. The boards can be fun and are fine. But it can't replace being a part of actual contests as a fan , judge, or competitor, etc.
The actial shows and expos are pretty fun and positive overall.If I all I knew of bodybuilding was from the boards I would be negative all the time as well.


we dont hate you re: the bodybuilding---you were outted as a pedo. 

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2008, 04:48:53 PM »
You'll have to speak up. Us peons can't understand you all the way up on your high horse like that.
I am just a Joe Blow avg Mr Never was wannabe like most here.
I am not rich or famous but love bodybuilding and enjoy being involved in it.

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2008, 04:50:53 PM »
For starters the Androgel is to keep me at ideal levels for health and vitality NOT pure bodybuilding.
I don't mind some critcla reply, just curious why some of you have no interest in some objective info by someone that has actually been in the sport of bodybuilding for years and even used roids and then stopped.

It's the elitist attitude. I don't care if you're Arnold, you talk to us like we're a bunch of skull fucking assholes. And this is why you get no respect.

I could appreciate the fact that you don't care for steroids and other drugs, but when you try to shove your opinion down everyone's throat it becomes a moot point. No one cares anymore. I also suggested the test cyp for overall quality of life enhancements. Androgel looks fine and dandy on paper but it's not very efficacious. If your doctor tells you that your blood work is coming in fine then that's good. That's all that really matters. But I'd opt for some test cyp instead of smearing shitty salves all over myself. I'd also try to get a higher dosage of test cyp but that's just me.

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2008, 04:52:16 PM »
we dont hate you re: the bodybuilding---you were outted as a pedo. 
Aaaaaaahhhh, I am no pedo, you guys know that ,but want to keep up this endless diatribe.
Fine , it is an open forum, but I am clueless as to why we have the endless dribble ,of the same lame rumor.
Lame attacks don't get me upset nor do they make me laugh. I just shake my head, and move on.
Have fun

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2008, 04:55:01 PM »
Aaaaaaahhhh, I am no pedo, you guys know that ,but want to keep up this endless diatribe.
Fine , it is an open forum, but I am clueless as to why we have the endless dribble ,of the same lame rumor.
Lame attacks don't get me upset nor do they make me laugh. I just shake my head, and move on.
Have fun

Welcome to the club.  :D

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2008, 04:55:57 PM »
Welcome to the club.  :D

I dont think many attack you Bay---ur pretty cool

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2008, 04:56:57 PM »
It's the elitist attitude. I don't care if you're Arnold, you talk to us like we're a bunch of skull fucking assholes. And this is why you get no respect.

I could appreciate the fact that you don't care for steroids and other drugs, but when you try to shove your opinion down everyone's throat it becomes a moot point. No one cares anymore. I also suggested the test cyp for overall quality of life enhancements. Androgel looks fine and dandy on paper but it's not very efficacious. If your doctor tells you that your blood work is coming in fine then that's good. That's all that really matters. But I'd opt for some test cyp instead of smearing shitty salves all over myself. I'd also try to get a higher dosage of test cyp but that's just me.
Hmmm, decent reply , thanks.
Ok for the Androgel my blood tests have been stable for the past few years so I am sticking with it.
I don't think the cyp suggestion was a bad one, I used to use it back in the day when I was on a cycle.
I don't get the elite claim, but thanks for the feedback. I try to be either postive, on topic or funny.
Unlike many here I rarely attack anyone either.
I honestly don't consider myself as elite. I am an avg guy , who teaches and enjoys lifting, no more , no less.
I also think a sensible dailogue on BOTH sides of the roid issue are the key to some open, serious dialogue.
Saying roid use is the end all be all, is as lame as saying roids don't work

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2008, 05:00:12 PM »
I am sure some do think I am shit.

I imagine it's more than "some"

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2008, 05:00:51 PM »
I am no pedo,
are you republican?  :D

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2008, 05:02:22 PM »
I dont think many attack you Bay---ur pretty cool
ditto that.

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2008, 05:03:46 PM »
I imagine it's more than "some"
Now THAT was funny. Good crack, classic get big, I give it an 8.

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2008, 05:04:10 PM »
props to u howard for being honest and having the courage to type up your story and post here on this sesspool

i hope to someday share my similar story about steroids and my reason for being natural

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Re: Why I got off the juice ?
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