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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2008, 07:48:13 AM »
Obama will win in a close election.  Obama will pull out the electoral win with room to spare but the popular vote will be very close.

"The couple paid nearly $1.4 million in federal taxes last year, and made $240,370 in charitable contributions. Their largest gifts were to the United Negro College Fund ($50,000), the international relief organization CARE ($35,000) and Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago ($26,270)".

Is this really true?  And this is the president who will represent all of us?  Seems pretty focused as what they really support....minority and international efforts.



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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2008, 07:49:30 AM »
Like her or not, Hillary got f-cked.  She should have been our next president, she was the most qualified, the most capable and I feel would have represented nearly all in the nation equally.

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2008, 07:53:25 AM »
Like her or not, Hillary got f-cked.  She should have been our next president, she was the most qualified, the most capable and I feel would have represented nearly all in the nation equally.

Oprah fucked her because she was white. Had Obama not ran, Oprah would have maybe endorsed Hillary because she's a woman and she would be the new POTUS.
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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2008, 08:02:33 AM »
Hillary couldn't have won. She's one of the most hated and polarizing figures in American politics.

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2008, 08:03:50 AM »
Hillary couldn't have won. She's one of the most hated and polarizing figures in American politics.

So is George Bush and many people are dumb enough to compare McCain to him. I think she would have won personally.
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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2008, 08:19:10 AM »
So is George Bush and many people are dumb enough to compare McCain to him. I think she would have won personally.

They (the Clintons) have more dirt and dead bodies associated with them than anyone. We would have had to hear about state troopers, extramarital affairs, Rose Law Firm, etc... forever.

Here's my $0.02: Republicans had total control and messed everything up. They just didn't want to take the chance that Hillary could remain in history forever.

Remember, Hillary is such an attention whore that she refused to stay out of the public eye long enough for the Ill seat to open up. All she had to do was wait a year and Barack Obama doesn't exist as an obstacle.

McCain can still win if Obama makes a lot of mistakes or if they get people afraid of a black president.

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2008, 08:47:43 AM »
Obama will win in a close election.  Obama will pull out the electoral win with room to spare but the popular vote will be very close.

"The couple paid nearly $1.4 million in federal taxes last year, and made $240,370 in charitable contributions. Their largest gifts were to the United Negro College Fund ($50,000), the international relief organization CARE ($35,000) and Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago ($26,270)".

Is this really true?  And this is the president who will represent all of us?  Seems pretty focused as what they really support....minority and international efforts.




That's true, also look up who Frank Davis the man he censored from his 2nd edition of his book.

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2008, 08:55:41 AM »
Obama will win in a close election.  Obama will pull out the electoral win with room to spare but the popular vote will be very close.

"The couple paid nearly $1.4 million in federal taxes last year, and made $240,370 in charitable contributions. Their largest gifts were to the United Negro College Fund ($50,000), the international relief organization CARE ($35,000) and Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago ($26,270)".

Is this really true?  And this is the president who will represent all of us?  Seems pretty focused as what they really support....minority and international efforts.


Who did you donate $240K to last year?

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2008, 09:05:35 AM »
Who did you donate $240K to last year?

Let check how much he donated before he made lots of money from the book? You do remember its tax exempt  ;)

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2008, 09:08:12 AM »
McCain but I can't say whether it will be by a narrow or big margin.

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2008, 09:20:10 AM »
Obama's more white than black but he plays the black card for all it's worth.

If you guys believe the polls that say Obama's ahead...  well if you believe political polls period, you're a sucker!  The pollsters will do everything in their power to influence people's thinking...  but at the end of the day, they have their own credibility to worry about...  which is why you see the poll results mysteriously tightening up as election day draws nearer, and McCain mysteriously surges upward in their "results."

I don't think any of you on here remember what a liar and a snake Biden is--think about his unsuccessful 1988 presidential bid--his lying and plagiarism were the fodder of late-night talk show jokes for weeks.  I don't trust that guy as far as I could throw a handful of hot glue.

Oh, another interesting little item...  according to the Congressional Record newspaper...  police chiefs in major metropolitan areas around the country are bracing for two distinct post-election possibilities:

1) Rioting by Obama's supporters if he loses
2) Rioting by Obama's supporters if he wins (a la the "NBA Championship syndrome").

Yep.  Kinda makes you wonder about the mentality of many of Obama's supporters.  I think they have him built up in their minds as some kind of messiah who is going to solve all their problems.  Personally I don't wake up every morning wondering what my government is going to do for me today.  But that's just me.

I'm not crazy about either of our candidates but I definitely feel like McCain is the lesser of two evils and I do believe he will be victorious on election day but it's gonna be a close race...  whoever said it's gonna be a landslide--in your wet dreams buddy!

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2008, 09:30:20 AM »
Obama basically bought the already left media and the pollsters.

He spend so much of his billion dollar of fraudulent contributions on them that they can't say he isn't winning...they just want more that of that sweet cash  :-\ :-X

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2008, 09:47:41 AM »
Let check how much he donated before he made lots of money from the book? You do remember its tax exempt  ;)

Look it up. All of their personal finance records have been released. I honestly cannot remember but recall their combined income being around $170K before the books started selling. She made most of the money.

Getting the financial records of McCain and Clinton were not easy tasks. Remember, Clinton loaned the campaign $20M of her own money.

Edit: His 2000-2006 tax records are on the web site. They made a little more money than I thought and she definitely made the real money.


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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2008, 09:50:28 AM »
Remember, Clinton loaned the campaign $20M of her own money.

Didn't Obama give it back to her? How is that not crooked? People donated the money to him, not her.
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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2008, 09:56:05 AM »
Didn't Obama give it back to her? How is that not crooked? People donated the money to him, not her.

I believe there are some pesky laws that prevent a direct 'gift' like that. I'm guessing nothing's been done yet because there hasn't been a "$20M for Hillary's endorsement" scandal.

I also don't get the whole "Hillary deserved to be the President" mentality.

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2008, 10:09:03 AM »
Look it up. All of their personal finance records have been released. I honestly cannot remember but recall their combined income being around $170K before the books started selling. She made most of the money.

Getting the financial records of McCain and Clinton were not easy tasks. Remember, Clinton loaned the campaign $20M of her own money.

Edit: His 2000-2006 tax records are on the web site. They made a little more money than I thought and she definitely made the real money.



1.You missed the point, trying to make them seem so generous is bogus since we know they had plenty of income to get tax exempt on.

2.Donating to that fucker Wright is plain wrong, especially from a senator and even more so from someone who later condone him...come on now...how much of a hypocrite can you  be?

3.Link me bitch! Which site exactly?  ;D

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2008, 10:12:22 AM »
I tried to watch the last McCain-Obama debate...  I really did...  I couldn't stand it for more than a few minutes before I had to change the channel.  Seeing the grandstanding and showmanship and posturing on both sides was more than I could stand...  I guess there's a reason it's called "politics."  Anyway it made me want to gouge my eyes out with a rusty pocketknife.

I'm pretty sure I couldn't spend more than an hour 'inside the beltway' without kicking someone's ass.  I basically despise all of those pompous power-hungry windbags whose bottom line is basically doing whatever is necessary to further their own careers and remain in office...  I hate politicians in general and think there's some kind of mental disorder that makes them want to be there in the first place.

But I'm gonna be completely honest...  I love Sarah Palin...  at first I thought choosing her as McCain's running mate was political suicide but the more I thought about it, it was brilliant...  I really like her and I think she's going to make an awesome vice-president! :)  And besides, she has a sweet ass...  face it...  Whoever gets elected, you're going to be seeing them on TV, newspapers and the internet for at least the next 4 years...  wouldn't you rather have someone who's easy on the eyes? ;D

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2008, 10:15:58 AM »
Ok 10 days to go, making this the official thread showing who you thought would win 10 days before the election.

I'm calling it for Obama to win, and I'm predicting he will win by 3 percentage points and 330 electoral votes.


You still have absolutely no clue about why you like Obama, do you? ::)
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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2008, 10:19:29 AM »
1.You missed the point, trying to make them seem so generous is bogus since we know they had plenty of income to get tax exempt on.

2.Donating to that fucker Wright is plain wrong, especially from a senator and even more so from someone who later condone him...come on now...how much of a hypocrite can you  be?

3.Link me bitch! Which site exactly?  ;D

Dude,

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/content/splashsignup_welcom

Christians are supposed to tithe 10% to their church. No, I'm not going to link the Bible for ya. :)

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2008, 10:19:59 AM »
Newspaper shows Obama belonged to socialist party
Democrat's campaign denied allegations, but new evidence indicates membership

By Aaron Klein
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Excerpt from New Party publication (Courtesy New Zeal blog)
JERUSALEM – Evidence has emerged that Sen. Barack Obama belonged to a socialist political party that sought to elect members to public office with the aim of moving the Democratic Party far leftward to ultimately form a new political party with a socialist agenda.

 

Several blogs, including Powerline, previously documented that while running for the Illinois state Senate in 1996 as a Democrat, Obama actively sought and received the endorsement of the socialist-oriented New Party, with some blogs claiming Obama was a member of the controversial party.

The New Party, formed by members of the Democratic Socialists for America and leaders of an offshoot of the Community Party USA, was an electoral alliance that worked alongside the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN. The New Party's aim was to help elect politicians to office who espouse its policies.

Among New Party members was linguist and radical activist Noam Chomsky.  Obama's campaign has responded to the allegations, denying the presidential candidate was ever a member of the New Party.  But the New Zeal blog dug up print copies of the New Party News, the party's official newspaper, which show Obama posing with New Party leaders, list him as a New Party member and include quotes from him.

The party's Spring 1996 newspaper boasted: "New Party members won three other primaries this Spring in Chicago: Barack Obama (State Senate), Michael Chandler (Democratic Party Committee) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary). The paper quoted Obama saying "these victories prove that small 'd' democracy can work."

The newspaper lists other politicians it endorsed who were not members but specifies Obama as a New Party member.

New Ground, the newsletter of Chicago's Democratic Socialists for America, reported in its July/August 1996 edition that Obama attended a New Party membership meeting April 11, 1996, in which he expressed his gratitude for the group's support and "encouraged NPers (New Party members) to join in his task forces on Voter Education and Voter Registration."  Becoming a New Party member requires some effort on behalf of the politician. Candidates must be approved by the party's political committee and, once approved, must sign a contract mandating they will have a "visible and active relationship" with the party.  The New Party, established in 1992, took advantage of what was known as electoral "fusion," which enabled candidates to run on two tickets simultaneously, attracting voters from both parties. But the New Party went defunct in 1998, one year after fusion was halted by the Supreme Court.

Following the initial reports of Obama's purported membership in the New Party, Obama associate and former Chicago New Party activist Carl Davidson posted a statement on several blogs claiming his former party was not socialist, but he admitted it worked with ACORN.  "[The New Party] was a pragmatic party of 'small d democracy' mainly promoting economic reforms like the living wage and testing the fusion tactic, common in many countries but only operational in New York in the U.S. The main trend within it was ACORN, an Alinskyist outfit, which is hardly Marxist," wrote Davidson.

But the socialist goals of the New Party were enumerated on its old website.

Among the New Party's stated objectives were "full employment, a shorter work week, and a guaranteed minimum income for all adults; a universal 'social wage' to include such basic benefits as health care, child care, vacation time, and lifelong access to education and training; a systematic phase-in of comparable worth and like programs to ensure gender equity."

The New Party stated it also sought "the democratization of our banking and financial system – including popular election of those charged with public stewardship of our banking system, worker-owner control over their pension assets, community-controlled alternative financial institutions."

Many of the New Party's founding members were Democratic Socialists for America leaders and members of Committees of Correspondence, a breakaway of the Communist Party USA. Obama attended several DSA events and meetings, including a DSA-sponsored town hall meeting Feb. 25, 1996, entitled "Employment and Survival in Urban America." He sought and received an endorsement from the DSA.

According to DSA documents, the New Party worked with ACORN to promote its candidates. ACORN, convicted in massive, nationwide voter fraud cases, has been a point of controversy for Obama over the presidential candidate's ties to the group.  In 1995, the DSA's New Ground newsletter stated, "In Chicago, the New Party's biggest asset and biggest liability is ACORN.  "Like most organizations, ACORN is a mixed bag. On one hand, in Chicago, ACORN is a group that attempts to organize some of the most depressed communities in the city. Chicago organizers for ACORN and organizers for SEIU Local 880 have been given modest monthly recruitment quotas for new New Party members. On the other hand, like most groups that depend on canvassing for fundraising, it's easy enough to find burned out and disgruntled former employees. And ACORN has not had the reputation for being interested in coalition politics – until recently and, happily, not just within the New Party."

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #45 on: October 26, 2008, 10:28:06 AM »
Dude,

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/content/splashsignup_welcom

Christians are supposed to tithe 10% to their church. No, I'm not going to link the Bible for ya. :)

Your link doesn't work and when I try to find something about Hussein and donation all I get is how I can send him money....I guess Rev.Wright and the other religious supporters he have teach him some of their trick :P

But I did find this :

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78035


He sure do love Kenya's communists.


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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #47 on: October 26, 2008, 11:09:35 AM »
https://donate.barackobama.com/page/content/splashsignup_welcome

The 'e' got deleted.

Sending me a link to register Obama's site might have worked if that beast of a woman he have wasn't in the picture...I can't stand her face...her face looks like a mask from a horror movie!  :o

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Re: CALL IT NOW WHO DO YOU THINK WILL WIN THE ELECTION?
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2008, 11:40:44 AM »
Sending me a link to register Obama's site might have worked if that beast of a woman he have wasn't in the picture...I can't stand her face...her face looks like a mask from a horror movie!  :o

Never been there before today. Looked it up for your lazy ass and got no appreciation, LOL!

He wouldn't be a viable candidate without a black wife. Both sides would have issues with an interracial marriage.

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« Reply #49 on: October 26, 2008, 11:52:29 AM »
Never been there before today. Looked it up for your lazy ass and got no appreciation, LOL!

He wouldn't be a viable candidate without a black wife. Both sides would have issues with an interracial marriage.


There are beautiful black women....she isn't in that group  :-\