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me and id be better of training 3x per week chest and tris on monday back and biceps wednesday and legs and delts on friday can you advise me plz

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full body is hard the first 3-4 weeks, then your body adjusts to the energy required to go through a full workout... Just stick with basic compound exercises and get a good base before you start doing anything advanced like split training...

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I'd say a full body workout two times or three times a week is a very good option.

But it just depends on the level of work you put in during those workouts.

I'm all for periodizing the training nowadays.

Which means you could trains balls to the walls for say three weeks with three weekly full body workouts.

And then back off for maybe two weeks with two a week workouts and 80% volume and 60-70% weights.
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I've just started doing full body 3 times per week.  1 exercise per bodypart, eg. 4x4 or 5x5, 6x6, 10x10 etc. Not to failure.  I'm liking it.  Getting leaner too.

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I've just started doing full body 3 times per week.  1 exercise per bodypart, eg. 4x4 or 5x5, 6x6, 10x10 etc. Not to failure.  I'm liking it.  Getting leaner too.

Good WO, you could probably go up to 5 WO per week, full body, 1 or 2 exercises per bodypart.

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I find when I'm trying to gain strength I make my best gains on full body programs.  Usually they are very abbreviated programs with different exercises each session.

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Good WO, you could probably go up to 5 WO per week, full body, 1 or 2 exercises per bodypart.

Thanks, yeah I'll probably go up to 4-5 days per week when I get more time, got alot of shit on atm.

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Anyone new to BB'ing can begin with a full body workout, just to get the body adapted to training. With compound movements being the only ones preformed.

Keep the exercises down to  5 or 6 at the most and starting with the larger muscle groups like legs, back, shoulder girdle, chest, etc, Something like; squats, BB rows, benches, military presses, biceps & abs. If you wish to throw in a calf exercise than go right ahead. All for 3 times a week and reps between 8 to 12, using the progressive system.

First week is a breaking in period so do one set per exercise (I know, one set may seem like sissy stuff but you will be setting up the body for future heavier work later). Next week do 2 sets per exercise. The 3rd week boost this up to 3 sets per exercise. 3 sets should be all that is done on this type full body workout for newbee's. Stay on this style full body workout for at least 8 weeks or longer if you wish. Up the intensity (add reps or weight) each workout but not to the point of going to failure. Your body may not be ready for that so soon when beginning serious training.

Split training (for most people) should be done only after a solid breaking in period of 3  months of BB'ing training. Good Luck.
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me and id be better of training 3x per week chest and tris on monday back and biceps wednesday and legs and delts on friday can you advise me plz

yes fullbody workouts are good for newbies. 3 times per week....after a few months you can move to upper/lower splits..training 3-4 days a week...

if your into bodybuilding there will probably come a point where you will have to split the body into 3 or more parts (as you become stronger..and more stimulus is needed to induce hypertrophy).


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Full body is the best way to start.  Alternate pushing and pulling exercises (compound exercises) and only do isolated exercises like bicep curls, tri extensions last as a finisher.  I found what works good is to set up full body workout exercises in groups of three to perform in a circuit for 3 sets.

Monday                             Wednesday                   Friday                     
1-Squat                             1-Deadlifts                   1-Squat
2-Flat Bench                       2-Incline Bench             2-Decline Bench
3-Seated Row                     3-Dumbell Rows             3-Bent over Rows

1-Calf Raises                       1-Leg Press                  1-Calf Raises
2-Dumbell Shoulder Press       2-Barbell Military Press    2-Dumbell Shoulder Press
3-Lat pull down                    3-Pull Ups                    3-Lat Pull downs

1-Leg Extension                   1-Calf Raises                 1-Abs
2-Something for Abdominals   2-Abs                           2-Barbell Curls
3-Hamstring Curls                 3-Upright Rows              3-Tri push downs








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me and id be better of training 3x per week chest and tris on monday back and biceps wednesday and legs and delts on friday can you advise me plz

You want good rule of thumb?  It’s common for someone to ask “what’s the best routine?” or “what’s the most effective program?” and so one.

This abbreviated write up assumes a general goal of improvements in strength and muscle mass. If that's so, then exercises that focus on the most muscle mass used - compound movements - are generally the most effective: squats, front squats, dead lifts, bench press, bent row, weighted chin ups, etc.

Although there are a million opinions on this topic, there has also been a fair amount of recent research on the issue which can help narrow down how to approach the issue.

Has there been research that looked to find the optimal program, for gaining size and strength? I will attempt to address some of the controversies and issues surrounding resistance training (weight lifting) and the best way to set up a program based on the actual research that exists.

There are so many theories, schools of thought, and crazy programs out there, it's a wonder anyone actually gets to the gym to workout versus just giving up out of shear confusion over what constitutes an optimal routine or program to make steady, predictable improvements in muscle mass and or strength. There has been a fair amount of research over the years that could help reduce the confusion most trainees have over what is the right program for them, but much of it was contradictory or simply not applicable to real world applications.

Many of these studies were done on people who never lifted weights, or the study didn't last long enough, or had any number of major shortcomings. However, there has been a real explosion of research in the past few years that allows a much clearer picture of what constitutes an optimal program as well as settling debates over things such as multiple sets versus single sets and so on. What follows is brief examination of some of this newer research in hopes of helping people to make smarter choices about their choice of weight training routines and programs. It should be noted however, there is no perfect routine or training schedule that will work for all people all of the time. Changes in volume, intensity, rep ranges, rep tempo, and other variables are the key to long term success in weight training. Anyone who claims to have the one and only program that will work for everyone all the time forever is either a damn liar or a fool or both!

As have said in the past, one can find a study to support virtually any statement. Therefore, what we look for is what is called the "bulk of the data." Translated, what does most of the research say most of the time about a topic versus a few studies that might contradict the majority of the research on a given topic. Of course, there are many other important issues regarding deciphering research, such as the quality of the research (i.e., sample sizes, length, n numbers, controlling confounding variables, etc, etc) but that's beyond the scope of this here little section and more or less unimportant regarding my larger point. What is often done to see what most studies say most of the time about a topic, is what is called a meta analysis, where scientists take all (or most) of the studies on a topic, set up a criteria for allowing the study in the analysis, then looking for the major trends from all the studies put together to come to some general conclusions, or what the bulk of the data has to say based on the aggregate of the studies. Got all that?! In 2003, a meta analysis was done on resistance training data that exists.

When it comes to resistance training for increasing strength and muscle mass, the bulk of the data is quite clear as on what is most effective. This study was called "A meta-analysis to determine the dose response for strength development" and was done by a Dr. Rhea and co workers at the Department of Exercise and Wellness at Arizona State University (Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2003 Mar;35(3):456-64.). They looked at 140 studies that met their criteria for being included in the meta analysis. As anyone who has ever worked out for any length of time already knows, they found studies showed different responses based on the training status of the participants, that is whether or not they were new to weight training or experienced lifters. From all the studies they examined, they concluded:

*Training with a mean intensity of 60% of one repetition maximum (1RM) elicits the best gains in untrained individuals

* Training with 80% of 1RM is most effective in those who are already trained (i.e. are not new to weight training)

* Untrained participants experience optimal gains by training each muscle group 3 days per week

*Trained individuals get their best responses training each muscle group 2 days per week.

* Four sets per muscle group elicited the maximal gains in both trained and untrained individuals.

The authors of this meta analysis concluded "The dose-response trends identified in this analysis support the theory of progression in resistance program design and can be useful in the development of training programs designed to optimize the effort to benefit ratio." So, it's clear different people at different stages of training will benefit from different training regiments. Also differences in volume and intensity may be needed for trained vs. untrained people. You will notice they concluded four sets per muscle group for trained or un trained people got the greatest effects. However, trained people would be doing a total of 8 sets per week at higher intensity (80% 1RM) vs. untrained who are doing a total of 12 sets per bodypart per week with lower intensities (60% 1RM). Again, the above findings are not written in stone in that people will get their best results by manipulating variables such volume, intensity, rep ranges, frequency, loading, TUT and so on, but the above does give some good insight for coming up with a basic plan of attack for setting up an effective program and greatly reducing the amount of confusion out there that is so prevalent.

And there you have it....Now, using the above info, one could then add some more advanced programming over time, but that's the basics to start from.

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