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Steroids - what will happen to the pros?
« on: October 26, 2008, 11:59:06 AM »
What is going to happen to these pros? 

Some, like Melvin Anthony and Darrem Charles, have hearts intended to pump blood for about 165 pounds, maybe 180 or so if they were into natural bodybuilding.  Even some of the "taller" pros like Dennis Wolf are not really intended to walk around at more than 180 or so (210 with natural bodybuilding maybe).

Check this out:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=36276

http://www.publishwebeasy.com/2008/health-fitness/10/bodybuilding-legends-what-is-the-future-for-bodybuilders-part-3

Discuss.

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Re: Juice pigs.
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2008, 12:03:33 PM »
whos that lovely pig?

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Re: Juice pigs.
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2008, 12:17:59 PM »
oh but Steroids are not harmful ::)

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Re: Juice pigs.
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2008, 12:19:47 PM »
I posted this on here because I didn't want to post it on one of the delusional boards like MD or mayhem where all of the juice pigs are in denial.

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Re: Juice pigs.
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2008, 12:25:21 PM »
Yeah bodybuilders are not normal human beings and can't have physical problems. If they do they physical problems it's always the roids. If a "normal" person has a physical problem it's always the genetics  ::)

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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2008, 12:30:28 PM »
Yeah bodybuilders are not normal human beings and can't have physical problems. If they do they physical problems it's always the roids. If a "normal" person has a physical problem it's always the genetics  ::)

Hi Greg Kovacs.

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Re: Juice pigs.
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2008, 12:37:48 PM »

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Re: Juice pigs.
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2008, 02:22:00 PM »
Hell no.

Yeah but I take it that you use lots of gas and will soon have a heart attack from using gas and rationalize your behaviour.

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Re: Juice pigs.
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2008, 02:24:33 PM »
id love to jam my penise in that hole.

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Re: Juice pigs.
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2008, 02:28:55 PM »
id love to jam my penise in that hole.
It would be great wouldn't it  ;D

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Re: Juice pigs.
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2008, 02:29:53 PM »
Professional bodybuilding is a tiny subculture of a sport yet the major health problems that occur is brushed off as bad genetics.  This is the rationalization of a drug user.

You can't use steroids, diuretics, insulin, gh, speed, anti estrogens, LH hormones and oil inject and say it's not a major risk to health.  

One thing that's for sure.  All these muscle marvels on stage and in your gyms look like crap in less than six short months off of drugs.

This "sport" attracts a lot of insecure boys that will do anything to be a man including risking health.  Train natural.  At least you will look good year after year.  These steroid guys do cycles on and off for a rough average of 10 years before health, law, or finances get the better of them.  Also don't take any training advice off a user.  Let them give you advice when they are off.  Believe me you wouldn't take advice off many of these guys seeing how they truly look.


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Re: Juice pigs.
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2008, 02:37:48 PM »
Professional bodybuilding is a tiny subculture of a sport yet the major health problems that occur is brushed off as bad genetics.  This is the rationalization of a drug user.

You can't use steroids, diuretics, insulin, gh, speed, anti estrogens, LH hormones and oil inject and say it's not a major risk to health.  

One thing that's for sure.  All these muscle marvels on stage and in your gyms look like crap in less than six short months off of drugs.

This "sport" attracts a lot of insecure boys that will do anything to be a man including risking health
.  Train natural.  At least you will look good year after year.  These steroid guys do cycles on and off for a rough average of 10 years before health, law, or finances get the better of them.  Also don't take any training advice off a user.  Let them give you advice when they are off.  Believe me you wouldn't take advice off many of these guys seeing how they truly look.



Exactly. No regard for laws, health, honor, pride, ethics, et cetera....
HAHA, RON.....

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Re: Juice pigs.
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2008, 03:18:44 PM »
oh but Steroids are not harmful ::)

anabolic steroids have been used by athletes for over 60 years.  there has been no epidemic of health problems with the top bodybuilders of the 1940s to 1970s.  the problems today are with GH and Insulin, diuretics, synthol, dnp, and lots of other drugs.

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Re: Juice pigs.
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2008, 03:23:20 PM »
Professional bodybuilding is a tiny subculture of a sport yet the major health problems that occur is brushed off as bad genetics.  This is the rationalization of a drug user.

You can't use steroids, diuretics, insulin, gh, speed, anti estrogens, LH hormones and oil inject and say it's not a major risk to health.  

One thing that's for sure.  All these muscle marvels on stage and in your gyms look like crap in less than six short months off of drugs.

This "sport" attracts a lot of insecure boys that will do anything to be a man including risking health.  Train natural.  At least you will look good year after year.  These steroid guys do cycles on and off for a rough average of 10 years before health, law, or finances get the better of them.  Also don't take any training advice off a user.  Let them give you advice when they are off.  Believe me you wouldn't take advice off many of these guys seeing how they truly look.



Good Post Bro  ;)

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Re: Steroids - what will happen to the pros?
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2008, 03:24:57 PM »
anabolic steroids have been used by athletes for over 60 years.  there has been no epidemic of health problems with the top bodybuilders of the 1940s to 1970s.  the problems today are with GH and Insulin, diuretics, synthol, dnp, and lots of other drugs.

What problems do you see from GH and insulin? Diuretics have killed a few but what health problems have we seen among the pros from GH and insulin?

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Re: Juice pigs.
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2008, 03:24:57 PM »
anabolic steroids have been used by athletes for over 60 years.  there has been no epidemic of health problems with the top bodybuilders of the 1940s to 1970s.  the problems today are with GH and Insulin, diuretics, synthol, dnp, and lots of other drugs.
IMO its the AI and the diuretics which really fuck guys up. of course they all have an effect but those two are pretty bad as far as health goes.

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Re: Steroids - what will happen to the pros?
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2008, 03:28:11 PM »
What problems do you see from GH and insulin? Diuretics have killed a few but what health problems have we seen among the pros from GH and insulin?
gh is supposedly good for life EXTENSION and according to milos insulin will help prevent diabetes that might otherwise occur from high gi carb intake if the slin is used correctly ?     

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Re: Steroids - what will happen to the pros?
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2008, 03:28:44 PM »
What problems do you see from GH and insulin? Diuretics have killed a few but what health problems have we seen among the pros from GH and insulin?

Fucking about with insulin levels is one of the most dangerous things you can ever do, Diabetes et all

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Re: Steroids - what will happen to the pros?
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2008, 03:31:06 PM »
Fucking about with insulin levels is one of the most dangerous things you can ever do, Diabetes et all


gh is supposedly good for life EXTENSION and according to milos insulin will help prevent diabetes that might otherwise occur from high gi carb intake if the slin is used correctly ?     

\... supposed to help releave stress from the pancreas..

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Re: Steroids - what will happen to the pros?
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2008, 03:34:54 PM »
gh is supposedly good for life EXTENSION and according to milos insulin will help prevent diabetes that might otherwise occur from high gi carb intake if the slin is used correctly ?     

The main problem with insulin is if you get the dose wrong it can be a killer, if your blood sugar levels are in a normal range you play roulette evey time you take it

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Re: Steroids - what will happen to the pros?
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2008, 03:37:40 PM »
The main problem with insulin is if you get the dose wrong it can be a killer, if your blood sugar levels are in a normal range you play roulette evey time you take it
yes... of course...

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Re: Steroids - what will happen to the pros?
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2008, 03:42:05 PM »
The main problem with insulin is if you get the dose wrong it can be a killer, if your blood sugar levels are in a normal range you play roulette evey time you take it

And a lot of the guys taking Insulin dont know shit from chocolate cake, somebody says take this and thats what they do. Bodybuilders mentality.

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Re: Steroids - what will happen to the pros?
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2008, 03:49:04 PM »
gh is supposedly good for life EXTENSION and according to milos insulin will help prevent diabetes that might otherwise occur from high gi carb intake if the slin is used correctly ?    

I actually don't think GH is good for life extension, especially not if it's used in bodybuilding dosages or even so-called "low dosages" for fat loss. High IGF-1 shortens lifespan in animals at least - lowering IGF-1 increases lifespan. And adding insulin would only make insulin resistance from GH worse.

I'm just curious what health problems we have seen that can be linked to these drugs.

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Re: Steroids - what will happen to the pros?
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2008, 03:51:19 PM »
The main problem with insulin is if you get the dose wrong it can be a killer, if your blood sugar levels are in a normal range you play roulette evey time you take it

I have seen many many bodybuilders use it and haven't seen one single emergency episode, nor heard of one among my circle of friends.

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Re: Steroids - what will happen to the pros?
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2008, 03:58:38 PM »
Don't use more than 10IU. Only fast acting types like humalog/novorapid to prevent fat storage and hypo's during sleep etc.
4 weeks on, 4 weeks off. Play it safe and it will be fine.